Sen. Ted Cruz Spouts Pure Gibberish While Trying to Defend Legalized Discrimination

ted-cruz-moronWe’ve heard a lot recently about the continued attempt by many Republicans across the country to push for “religious freedom” bills which basically allow businesses to discriminate against homosexuals. Many have tried to spin this as nothing more than a stance for “religious freedom,” but it’s clear to anyone with even a shred of common sense that these laws are aimed at giving businesses the right to refuse their service to gay Americans. The reality is, calling these laws “religious freedom” really opens the door for anyone to cite religion as a means to discriminate against almost anyone.


Naturally, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) has been a very vocal supporter of these laws. After all, he’s been blatantly pandering to the religious right for years hoping that will help him win the GOP nomination in 2016.

Well, during an interview discussing “religious liberty,” Cruz went off on some sort of religious rant that I can only describe as nothing but pure gibberish.

“Nobody in their right mind would force a Catholic priest to perform a Protestant wedding,” Cruz said. “Likewise, nobody in their right mind would force a Jewish rabbi to perform a Christian wedding or, for that matter, to violate kosher and go consume pork. We have long had a tradition from the beginning of this country of respecting religious liberty and accommodating and respecting the good-faith religious views of our citizens.”

“And it is only the intolerance of the current day of the far-left that views with which they disagree,” he continued. “The far-left is such a radical proponent of gay marriage that anyone whose faith teaches to the contrary, anyone whose faith teaches that marriage is a sacrament of one man and one woman, a holy union before God, the far-left views that religious view as unacceptable and they’re trying to use the machinery of the law to crush those religious views. And I think it is wrong, I think it is intolerant, and I think it is entirely inconsistent with who we are as a people.”

So, because gay Americans just want to be able to live their lives just like straight Americans, with the same rights and protections under the law as everyone else, that’s somehow perpetuating intolerance?

Look, nobody – nobody – is forcing a church to perform a gay wedding. Nobody is even trying to force people who oppose gay marriage to approve of same-sex marriage. But what we’re trying to do is use the law to prevent these people from forcing their views on others. If someone doesn’t agree with gay rights, that’s their personal right to do so. But what they cannot do, and what the law cannot do, is deny millions of Americans the rights they’re rightfully owed because of the personal religious views of some.


Not only that, but as a business owner you cannot discriminate against people – period. If you sell wedding cakes and a gay couple wants to purchase one, you cannot refuse service based upon your personal feelings of ignorance and bigotry about their sexual orientation just like they couldn’t deny someone service based on the color of their skin if they were racists.

Private citizens are allowed to be as racist or bigoted as they want, but a business cannot. It’s really that simple.

Nobody in this country is trying to deny the right of anyone to be as religious as they want. All those of us who support equal rights for homosexuals (as well as a separation of church and state) are trying to do is what our Constitution intended – keep religion out of our laws.

When two gay people get married, that has zero impact on a heterosexual couple who doesn’t believe they should have the right to do so. But when those two heterosexual people have the power to deny that gay couple the right to marry, that does interfere in the personal lives – and freedoms – of those two people who are seeking marriage equality.

Unfortunately, people like Ted Cruz just seem completely unable to grasp even that simple of a concept.




Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Jim Bean

    I would like to see a bill introduced that says you cannot deduct charitable contributions on your income tax return unless you can prove that you have donated proportionately to Christian/religious based charities. That would give us a chance to truly test the Left’s commitment to their supposedly righteous fight against discrimination and other people. My suspicion is they would flunk and that what they proclaim as their righteousness is just another example of the self-centeredness.

    • BPMM

      I’d like to see all religious organizations have their not-for-profit status revoked. Then there would be no tax deductions for charitable contributions to them!!

      • Jim Bean

        But you’d allow Planned Parenthood to keep theirs, I have no doubt, because of the good work they do in the community.

      • Alierias

        Equal rights=no special treatment

      • Jere Douglas

        Sure would!

      • BPMM

        I used to have Planned Parenthood as one of my departments at the hospital I worked and yes, I would allow them to keep their 501 (c) (3) status. We provided indigent women with counseling on many issues as well as primary care and cancer screenings. And no, we did not perform any abortions as many of you low information types think that is our main business.

      • Cemetery Girl

        Planned Parenthood helps women in need receive medical care such as Pap test. Cancer can strike anyone, it isn’t just something that happens to people that “sleep around”. Breast cancer, cervical cancer, uterine cancer, these are scary things to some of us.

      • Jim Bean

        If you search religious charities you’ll find churches help far more.

      • Cemetery Girl

        Lol, some churches do some wonderful things, they really do, but there isn’t an abundance of churches that provide screening for disease. I know of churches around that provide food or emergancy assistance (good programs) but I don’t know of one that you could go to for a PAP or a mammogram. It is not uncommon for a church to raise money for treatment for a member in need, but I don’t know of a church that provides funds for screening. Churches have the potential of helping people in different ways, but routine healthcare isn’t one.

      • Jim Bean

        Why just them and not the other non-profits? Wouldn’t that be discriminatory and aren’t you against discrimination?

    • Dabb

      What??? That makes no sense. Anti-discrimination has nothing to do with donating to charity. BTW I’m a Christian just like many, many on the left.

      • Jim Bean

        I guess I can’t blame anyone for wanting to have it both ways but I can complain when you try to put righteous lipstick on it.

      • Justin Samuel Drew

        Planned Parenthood is not a religious based business like churches are. I agree that all religions should not be given tax breaks.

      • Jim Bean

        You would allow other non-profits to be tax exempt but not religious based ones. That’s discrimination based on religion. So, you’re no better than those who discriminate against gays or blacks.

      • Dabb

        Again. You make no sense with your gibberish

    • Aloanstar

      Why should everyone be expected to donate money to a religious based charity? I constantly donate money to animal rights, domestic violence, child abuse groups or disaster relief when needed, but never deduct any of it….I give it because it is the right thing to do. I don’t see why anyone should be allowed to deduct charitable contributions at all…not “christian/religious based charities” or any other groups. If you want to help, help….but don’t expect repayment in the form of a tax deduction for it. Do it because you want to help…hence the word “charitable”. As a self-proclaimed “christian”, isn’t that what god would want you to do…help and not expect to be rewarded? Don’t you expect him/her to reward in your afterlife by not sending you to fry in hell pit for eternity? Why should other tax payers pick up the slack for your tithes?

      I am assuming that you believe the right has more claim to religion than the left. I am a atheist, but 95% of my friends and family are religious and liberal.(left of you), but somehow their religious views don’t seem to come across as hate-filled as their counter parts on the right….wonder why that is?

      • Jim Bean

        The purpose of this exercise was to determine whether the Left-wingers hyperventilating over the discrimination they allege is inherent in the Indiana law might not freely support discrimination if it was a group they didn’t like that was being discriminated against.

        What we’ve learned is that liberals aren’t acting out of a moral aversion to discrimination. They are pretending to have a moral aversion to it in order to advance a hypocritical agenda.

      • Jillz

        Respectfully, Jim Bean: While I rarely agree with you, I generally do understand the point you’re trying to make. In this case though ….. HUH?

        Are you really saying that if Liberals donate to a non-Christian charity it is the equivalent to them discriminating against a Christian charity?? I’m not being facetious – I’m genuinely stumped over your point. I’m sorry – it doesn’t make sense to me.

        I will never donate to a Church/religion again. There was one left (religion) that I trusted and they betrayed my trust. It doesn’t mean I’m discriminating against religions, it just means that I, personally, don’t support them.

        I donate to animal rights groups and children’s literacy and advocacy groups. I also attend fundraisers (usually for illnesses and/or individual persons suffering from an illness) Like Aloanstar before me, I do not seek receipts (and when they are provided anyway, I don’t claim them).

        I believe I do have a moral aversion to discrimination – it actually turns my stomach when I hear about cases, and the individual impacts it has. How do my charitable donating habits contradict that?

      • Jim Bean

        You wrote: ” It doesn’t mean I’m discriminating against religions, it just means that I, personally, don’t support them.”

        That’s the same as saying, “I’m not discriminating against gays, I just won’t personally won’t support gay marriage.”

        That’s what discrimination is and that is my point. You can’t say ‘In my case its not discrimination because I have a good reason for shunning this particular group.’ Everyone who discriminates feels they have a justifiable reason.

      • Jillz

        No, Jim, it’s not. Sorry. I will not attend a church for any reason other than to make my Mother happy. The reason for that is that I have been betrayed following putting my trust in a religion. That’s the reason I don’t support them. They did something to me and I don’t like them for it. That’s not discrimination – I don’t support religions b/c they have betrayed my trust, and hurt me spiritually. Not b/c I have a fundamental disbelief in what they stand for. I support (true) Christianity and strive to act Christ-like myself WITHOUT the dubious “benefit” of having a church tell me how to do it.

        To suggest that despite having a valid reason for my dislike I am discriminating against religion is ludicrous.

        I don’t like one of the tenants where I live either – does that mean I’m discriminating against her?

        The problem with the religious “freedom” laws is they are being designed by bigots to allow other bigots to discriminate against others.

        You don’t have to personally support homosexuality; you’re entitled to your personal feelings on it; you don’t have to marry a same-sex partner – none of those things are discrimination.

        Now you tell me what homosexuals have done to you (or anyone else), BESIDES expecting marriage equality as their EQUAL right as American citizens, that should result in their being discriminated against. And if you answer, please don’t come back with the inane argument about how two gays marrying is somehow a threat to the marriages of heterosexuals.

    • Alierias

      As an atheist, and an American Citizen, WHY would I want my constitutional right of freedom of religion (in my personal case, none) to be violated ?
      I donate to many charitable organizations, all of them secular, including Responsible Charity, working religion-free in Pune India to feed, clothe, house and educate street children.
      Judge not, lest Ye be judged…

      • Jim Bean

        You discriminate against religious people. This conversation is for people who feel (or claim to feel) that any sort of discrimination is ‘wrong.’

      • Alierias

        http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equivocation
        Learn your logical fallicies, and stop committing them.
        My choice of charities to support is NOT “discrimination”, it is my free choice, based upon my ethical sense, of whom needs my help.

        http://www.responsiblecharity.org

        These people *I* feel need monetary help, so I help them. I am NOT PREVENTING you from helping as well, nor casting aspersions upon whom you choose to help, nor threating you in any way, in this life, or the next one, that I see no reason/evidence exists.

      • Jim Bean

        When you chose your charities you exercised discrimination.

        discrimination

        [dih-skrim-uh-ney-shuh n] /dɪˌskrɪm əˈneɪ ʃən/

        Spell Syllables

        Synonyms

        Examples

        Word Origin

        noun

        1.

        an act or instance of discriminating, or of making a distinction.

        2.

        treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit:

        racial and religious intolerance and discrimination.

        3.

        the power of making fine distinctions; discriminating judgment:

        She chose the colors with great discrimination.

        4.

        Archaic. something that serves to differentiate.

    • Danonwis23

      This doesn’t even make sense. Giving only to charities that reflect and act out ones personal theological beliefs is the ultimate in self-centered giving. Jim Bean is usually the village idiot here, but this is a new level.

      • Jim Bean

        So you feel that, when in your judgment, a cause isn’t deserving, you’re OK with discrimination against the people associated with it?

        Does it make sense now?

      • Danonwis23

        No, you are making even less sense. The meth is really getting to your brain.

    • KP Woodlock

      You don’t make any sense. Why should I HAVE to donate to anyone other than who I want? How is it discrimination if I choose to donate to someone other than a Christian/religious based charity?

      • BURNTFUR

        I wouldn’t even try. He certainly isn’t.

      • silkay

        Why should a Christian pizza restaurant owner HAVE TO provide pizzas to sodomites when they do not want to?

    • Cemetery Girl

      That makes no sense at all. A charity or positive cause isn’t always tied to a Christian organization. I give to organizations that provide fostering and medical care for stray animals. It is not tied to a Christian organization. Every year I thin out my book collection and donate them to a local literacy campaign. Also not tied to a Christian organization. Personally, I prefer smaller, local organizations. I prefer that my donations are helping people (or animals) in my community.

      • Michael O’Brien

        You could donate your books to local Republicans, there is obviously a need there.

      • Cemetery Girl

        Lol, I’ll stick to illiteracy. I have worked with people that were unable to read. I worked at a grocery store that if a customer was illiterate would have an employee help them shop. I was selected for assistance duty a lot (with illiterate, blind, or people with mobility problems) and it was a great experience. I read a lot, especially back then (no kids, more free time), and I can’t imagine not being able to read. We had one man that came in regularly and he talked about how he usually didn’t admit he couldn’t read and relied on pictures to fake it. It has been nearly 20 years and I still remember him so well.

      • Jim Bean

        You are discriminating by excluding religious charities.

      • Cemetery Girl

        You mean like the church that I donated money to because scum broke in and stole their copper pipes? I don’t regularly donate to the church, but they don’t routinely have their plumbing ripped out. Although I would be willing to regularly donate towards some of their activities. They do some great things in the local Deaf community. Considering I am Christian it would be silly to refuse to donate based on Christainity, but I won’t be required to donate based on Christainity either. And no, I am not a member of the church that I recently donated money towards. A little too fundamental and much too far of a drive for my tastes, but that doesn’t mean I can’t appreciate the role they play in the lives of their small congregation.

      • Jim Bean

        Good on you. You’re not typical of the liberals who congregate around this water cooler.

      • Cemetery Girl

        We have to quit focusing on liberal or conservative, democrat or republican. There’s so many ways to donate, and the important thing is to donate to a cause that speaks to you. As I said, I prefer local causes, but I also prefer not to publicize my charitable acts. This is brought up in the Bible. I happen to agree that we should give out of a desire to help instead of recognition for having helped.

      • Jim Bean

        We are in the age of ‘identity politics.’ Neither you nor I will live to see it subside.

      • Cemetery Girl

        Unfortunately true. It is far better for modern politicians to divide the people and run on conservative v. liberal instead of actually running a campaign based on merits. BS into a position based on “don’t vote [insert opposing party]” and then work your way up the chain of power. It’s all politics has become at this point, positioning to move up to the next career move.

  • Benjamin Demille

    Will we start seeing signs that say, “No Irish need apply.”?

  • Macdoodle

    The left showed its true hate spewing identity with the death threats phoned into the owners of the pizza shop in Indiana.Disgusting hypocrisy.

    • Sunnysmom

      Don’t you pin that on all liberals. That behavior is from deranged people and it happens on both the left and right.

    • BURNTFUR

      you mean the pizza shop owner that spewed hate in order to go viral and milk six figures of sympathy money out of the feeble minded? that hypocrisy?

    • Michael O’Brien

      Pointing out hate, ignorance and hypocrisy is not hate.

  • truthaddict

    None of these Christo-fascists seem to remember that not that long ago, their religious views condoned refusing service to black people in restaurants, hotels, gas stations, etc. None of them — well, most of them — would not condone such discrimination now. But, discrimination against gays is different, right? These people are pitiful excuses for Christians. Jesus would not approve of how they are acting.

    • BURNTFUR

      First, they don’t remember anything that doesn’t support their narrow minded views. They do this on purpose, and it’s obvious. Second, they know the American public will forget in a very short period of time, so they are leveraging that to the point where they say all kinds of asinine things without any consequences. As long as they appear to be angry at “liberals” (in quotes because they don’t actually now what ‘liberal’ means) then they will continue to flourish with the absent minded, the selfish, the hypocritical, etc.

  • felipe63

    Ted Cruz is the best thing to happen to the Democratic Party. He’ll pull the R’s even further to the right, scaring the crap outta many of the folks in the center. I have more than a few friends that have told me “I used to vote republican but the party has gone crazy”.

    I’m glad that Cruz and people of his ilk keep running running their mouths, all it does it drive sane, rational people to the left. As for the people that agree with him, well he’s just preaching’ to the choir, and I sincerely doubt that any person in the center listens to them and thinks “Wow, these guys (and gals) are really speaking to me, they have my vote”.

  • Sunnysmom

    The GOP is going to have a helluva time with this fight between their religious nuts and the corporatists in this election cycle. Smart business people know this type of ideology is a loser with the vast number of consumers. Best to keep these things separate, but this Neo Puritanism sect of the population is digging in deeper with every progressive move.

    • BURNTFUR

      No they’re not. You have to remember that no matter how bad the GOP is, in recent elections they maintain a 50% strangle hold on the country, perpetuating a do-nothing congress and wasting money fighting social issues that have no place in politics to begin with. Mitt Romney got 50% of the vote despite being a complete a-hole the entire campaign.

      • BobJThompson

        The democrats don’t give people anyone to vote FOR. If they actually took a stand against crony capitalism, they would get more votes. But the dems don’t want to bite the hand that feeds them. Thanks Clinton.

      • BURNTFUR

        Agreed. They need a spine and they rarely have one. The problem is they think that facts and basic fairness will win out in the end. They won’t. Sometimes when the opposition continues to behave inappropriately, you have to stoop to their level to engage then refute them on their own terms, or they won’t accept defeat.

      • BobJThompson

        I have to disagree with your last sentence. The dems have been doing that since the 90’s. It isn’t working. If your 2 main choices are virtually the same, people aren’t going to be very gung-ho in their desire to vote. One way or the other.

      • BURNTFUR

        The moment someone tries to say both the GOP and the Democrats are basically the same is the moment I stop bothering to converse with the delusional individual. MASSIVE amounts of facts show otherwise, but you keep thinking that since it merely sounds like it makes sense, to you. Everyone else will continue to notice how incredibily different the two parties are.

      • BobJThompson

        Economically they are basically the same. In the end that is all that matters. It’s taken both parties doing favors for different parties of rich people to get us where we are. If we want it to be different, we need to act different.

  • GimmeSomeTruth

    The dumbing down of “Murica” recognizes no boundaries. They discriminated against Blacks, Hispanic and the disabled forcing laws to make changes. They discriminated against Danica Patrick and against Shannon Faulkner. They discriminate against anyone or anything that doesn’t look like them, or behave like them or have the same religious views as them. They’re trying to turn our Republic into a Theocratic/Plutocratic Government or vice-versa. Same dog, different collar. They choose which parts of our Constitution to follow and which parts they use to wipe their back side with. Freedom of Religion is not the same as “religious freedom”. Keep sipping on the spezi, folks.