Elizabeth Warren Crushes Republicans For Their Absurd Economic Policies

elizabeth-warren-630x4201I’m not really sure how anyone can dislike Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA). I get that she’s a Democrat, but everybody should support a senator who:

  • wants to come down on the big Wall Street banks that were responsible for the worst economic crash since the Great Depression.
  • thinks that it’s ridiculous our government is making billions from issuing student loans.
  • believes workers in America should be paid a living wage so that they don’t need government programs to survive.

Stances like those shouldn’t be a “Democrat” or “Republican” thing, they’re just common sense.


She’s a senator who honestly seems to care about fighting for the poor and middle class against those who are doing their best to buy and lobby control of our government.

That’s the kind of politician all Americans should want – though, unfortunately, that’s not the case.

Well, Warren crushed the ridiculous GOP-supported notion of trickle-down economics during a Wednesday speech at the Center for American Progress.

“The Republicans have a pretty simple philosophy: they say if those at the top have more, more power for Wall Street players to do whatever they want and more money for tax cuts than somehow they can be counted on to build the economy for everyone else,” Warren said. “Well, we tried it for 30 years and it didn’t work. In fact the consequences were nearly catastrophic.”

“We tested the Republican ideas and they failed, they failed spectacularly. There’s no denying that fact,” she continued. “We know the importance of accountability on Wall Street, the benefits of having a better educated work force. The advantages that come from investments of high-speed rail and medical research.”

And she’s exactly right. We’ve been force-fed trickle-down economics since the early-80’s and it hasn’t worked. The rich are richer than they’ve ever been while the poor and middle class continue to fall further and further behind. After eight years of George W. Bush cutting taxes and deregulating Wall Street, our economy finally hit a breaking point and damn near collapsed. And those are the same failed policies the Republican party wants to return us to. Tax breaks for the rich, less regulation on Wall Street and a guaranteed path to another massive economic breakdown.


It makes absolutely no sense.

I just wish more Democrats would grow a spine and follow Warren’s lead, because she has the backbone to fight against Republican absurdity that far too many Democrats lack.

Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Macdoodle

    She is a socialist.Not as bad as Bernie Sanders but very close.

    • crabjack

      Your point..?

    • BoydCrowder22

      Calling someone a “socialist” always means there is a Tea Bagger on a keyboard who doesn’t know jack ssss about the issues or facts …and they can type at least one polysyllabic word.

      • Lucifer999

        Most of the time they don’t know what socialism is. Most don’t understand that the U.S. Military is an example of socialism in action – “a government run enterprise for the benefit of all”. Using socialism where it makes sense is not a bad thing.

      • CobrayRPB

        You are not quite correct. If you are a lazy, incompetent worker in a socialist country, you are still assured a job and the necessities. In the military, if you fail to meet expectations, you are chaptered out with whatever discharge is appropriate.

      • Lucifer999

        Sorry, you don’t understand what socialism is. All functions are necessarily run differently, but if an enterprise is run by the government for the good of all, that is the definition of a socialist function. The US military is a socialist function. So is NASA. So is the FAA that keep us safe in the sky. So is the FBI and the CIA. And yes, so is welfare.

        So you see, socialism is sometimes the best option to fill a need. It is not a bad word except among uneducated right-wingers who don’t have a clue what they’re talking about. Most of them are confusing socialism with communism… which is a bad word. It is of course possible to have bad policy and bad administration of socialist functions, just like it is with private enterprises (banks, health insurance companies, etc.).

      • CobrayRPB

        So the military is funded by capitalism……how is that socialist? The government gets money from taxes….it doesn’t create income. Political leaders are paid from the same coffer so they are socialist too? I understand what you are trying to get at….I read the same article a few months ago….but it wasn’t quite correct

      • Lucifer999

        “So the military is funded by capitalism….” how is that not a stupid statement? The military is funded by tax revenue, not by free market capitalism. The military isn’t listed on the stock exchange, and it doesn’t sell protection services. The military is funded by tax revenue for the benefit of all. That is socialism.

        I didn’t read any article a few months ago. I got an education and I do my homework. I know what socialism is.

      • CobrayRPB

        Wow you sure get testy. You are wrong. Im a policeman so im part of a socialist what have you? Municipal funds pay me….tax dollars paid me.

      • Lucifer999

        Yes, law enforcement is a socialist function. Funded by taxes and run by government for the benefit of all. You damn socialist. Ha ha ha.

      • CobrayRPB

        I hope you saved the receipt from your amazing education because they took you for a ride. I can’t even argue with you because you are so smug and condescending. Police and military aren’t forms of government so how are they socialist? Please show me a web link or something by someone who understands what it is they are talking about.

      • Lucifer999

        Umm… It couldn’t be any simpler. Military, LAW ENFORCEMENT, and many other functions are funded by taxpayers and run by government for the benefit of all. THAT IS WHAT SOCIALISM IS. It isn’t complicated. Police and military are agents of governments. They are funded by governments and they are accountable to government. The military doesn’t only defend specific people, they defend all Americans. Police don’t sell protection packages, they police and protect everyone. Just like how deadbeats get emergency healthcare-because that is the American way. THAT is what socialism is, in its purest form. See – it’s not always bad.

      • CobrayRPB

        If you could form a rational thought you would be dangerous.

      • Lucifer999

        Some people, like you, won’t acknowledge the truth if it goes against your preconceived notions. Don’t be a Luddite – step back and think about all the examples I’ve given you to make it clear. Let it sink in.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Rethink what you said. Pot and kettle.

      • Lucifer999

        Rubbish. The definition of socialism is not subjective. It isn’t something that’s debatable, and Cobray, like many Americans, had it wrong. It’s understandable though, because it is so commonly used erroneously like a dirty word in America. The examples I provided are real and fit the definition.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        So dirty in fact that the Socialists/Communists (democrats) quit hiding behind the liberal label and started hiding behind the progressive label. Problem is that you extreme leftists live in a fantasy world based on what you think the world should be rather than facing up to reality. Sorry, but I do not think I would enjoy life on a collective.

      • Lucifer999

        An easy way to spot the right wing drones who don’t have a clue is by their interchangeable use of communism and socialism. If you read back through the comments, you’ll come to understand that America is built on (and depends on) lots of socialist functions, including military, law enforcement, public education, emergency health services, NASA, FAA, FCC, etc… All these are enterprises that are funded by taxpayers and overseen by government for the good of all. That is what socialism is.

        Communism is something different and has proven many times to be a failed model for government.

      • Ian Kohn

        Actually, it’s called civilization. You really don’t have to participate, if you don’t want to.

      • Michelle vonAhn

        Exactly…and Americans seem to be unwilling to question the level of corporate welfare given to the military. In exchange for a huge amount of public funding, the military mops up loads of otherwise unemployed people and gives them a “liveable”(?) wage. The military also diverts a huge amount of public funding to corporate interests who profit from military spending, thereby providing another tranche of corporate welfare to those companies.

        While the poor are vilified for being poor, hated for being needy… I know that there are some people on welfare who probably shouldn’t be, but they are a tiny minority. I know others who are clearly in need, and yet do not appear to be able to get any assistance.

      • Lucifer999

        By the way, did you go to public schools? Those too are socialist functions – funded by all (with or without kids), administered by Government, and free to all. You owe your basic education to socialism, as do most Americans.

      • Ian Kohn

        I think it’s time you went to bed. Don’ forget to replace or recharge your batteries. The military is inadvertently funded by capitalist policy, in the USA, regardless of how closely politicians adhere to the basic principles of a capitalist economy. Western economies reward their populace by giving them the benefit of the doubt, a second chance, if you will. You could do worse. You could live in Eastern Ukraine right now, and worry about why you didn’t install that wood burning stove.. When the neighbor brings you enough wood to keep from freezing for a week, will you curse his socialist politics?

      • Bobgivesahoot

        here are more words for you. this is called ideology and neglects practical reasoning. we dont need government to be our parents. let’s take one point and see if you can understand. the living wage, meaning raise the min wage. ok great. all those kids trying to get work cant because they dont have skills so unemployment with teens rise especially minorities. so who does it help primarily, yes, middle class teens flipping burgers. now let’s say you were one of those and worked hard to get a raise of $1 an hour. now this law passes and everyone gets the same as you when you worked harder. do you expect a raise too? or will you stop working hard because it gets you nothing more? so if you want a raise, the price of goods go up and although you make the same money, get no more goods than before for your wage. ok, you want to work less hard, ok that means we need more of you to work to get the same output and more people need to be hired, prices go up and you still get the same stuff for your money? make sense? you probably didnt even read and just sat and tried to come up with some creative insult, well let’s have it

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Strange. What do you members of the liberal flock have against smaller federal government and lower taxes> Afraid you might have to take a job and move out of your parents basement?

    • Di Kelley

      Again, I don’t mind a bit of this brand of “socialism”. IMO America *needs* some of it. We’ve stopped giving a crap about our fellow man and it shows, really. “Oh, if we help the poor they’ll take advantage of it, it’s their own fault.” tough sh*t if you think so. We ought to be helping to pull those who have less than we do out of poverty. *all* of us ought to be, but especially those whom trickle down economics have made a heck of a lot richer. Time for some of that wealth to well. ..trickle down.

      • Bobgivesahoot

        Isnt that sad though. you talk about helping people, but you are really talking about forcing the government to make others help people. yesterday, I was packing food for the hungry, today, I was donating my hard earned money. what have you done and why do you want the government to force me to give to who they want?

      • Di Kelley

        I have donated in places, I have given of my cash or food for hungry people. But the point is, Bob, that we have the social safety nets we do *because* charities *are not enough*. There are too many people going hungry or homeless because our economic system is *so broken* that we need them to make sure everyone can eat.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        For Obama so loves the poor that he has created millions more.

      • Di Kelley

        Actually, I’ve lived through both Republican and Democratic presidencies (I will be forty five in February, I’ve seen from Carter on though I was very young for Carter, not really old enough to comment on his policies, just pointing out I have exerienced both) and I must say that my family when I lived at home and myself when I left home were *both* significantly better off around half-way through the Democratic presidencies when they had Democratic congresses than with Republican run Congress and Preisdency. Mostly because their economic and social policies would pull our country out of the recession the Republicans before them would leave behind.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Pretty much a myth. Obama’s cronies have gained phenomenal growth in their wealth as have Bo and Mo, but the middle class has taken a huge hit. It will take years to dig out from under the destruction done to the economy by Obama and his cronies in the Congress. Thank God the Republicans took the House so they could put a stop to some of the nonsense. You are aware that Obama has had the printing presses running 24/7 since he took office. Makes the stock market look great as investors have to have someplace to park their devalued money which is no longer backed by anything other than the good word of the government. You willing to trust this government?

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        AMEN! Well stated, but you might just force a liberal to actually think rather than emote.

    • Nickhead77

      Define Socialist…You can’t off the top of your head? That’s okay, I’ve found the RWNJ trolls like you couldn’t tell the difference between a socialist, communist or Marxist to save your life… Seriously, I think every time one of you twits use one of those words, you should immediately give it’s definition and political origin, or your entire post gets deleted (only after the grown ups get done laughing at it.)

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        The difference is only in degree. You can add democrat, liberal and progressive to the list as all want to profit from the labor of others at the least effort from themselves personally. Preferably with themselves serving as the Czars.

      • Di Kelley

        No, we don’t personally wish to profit. What we wish for is for *every person* to be able to have the ability to at least have the basic needs no matter what educational level or social status they may have. Extras should be on our dime, but *no one* should have to go without a home or sufficient food. No one should have to struggle to simply survive.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Even the generations of welfare queens who have made breeding indiscriminately for the welfare freebies a career and lifestyle choice? I have no trouble providing for NEEDS while a person is hunting a job, but c’mon even bleeding heart liberals must get tired of being taken advantage of by societies parasites.

  • Jim Valley

    Warren is my favorite politician EVER. I have never heard her say anything I disagree with.

    • curmudgeon VN Veteran

      Was your frontal lobotomy elective or court ordered?

      • Anthony Poirier

        I’d be surprised if you understood what you just wrote…

      • Ian Kohn

        Depends, is the surgeon finished?

      • Anthony Poirier

        At least in my country I can afford one. Republicans will make you pay through the nose for yours.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Paid for by your fellow citizens in your utopian commune of a country? Sweet deal Sparky.

      • Anthony Poirier

        That’s why Republicans hate the word “Socialism.” Because it works, and doesn’t make the top 1% a dime. But you guys go right ahead and keep lining the pockets of the filthy rich, because that’s fair, right?

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Rather than the lazy welfare leeches and the other parasitic members go the left who leech off the taxpayers? Matter of degree isn’t it Sparky? I assume you are one who lives off the EBT and food stamps and contribute nothing to the National economic health.

      • Anthony Poirier

        Wrong again “sparky.” I work 50-55 hours a week, and pay my way just fine. But my girlfriend, who has both Arthritis and Fibromyalgia, can only maybe contribute to her house 3-6 months a year. But I guess, she’d be better off homeless in your world (with a majority of everyone else down there) Instead of getting much needed therapy and assistance. You know what, when you break your leg, or lose all your teeth in a drunken car accident (which sounds plausible) you might want to “leech” a little compassion and understanding for the first time in your greedy ill begotten little privileged life. ANd you know the #1 way to get people off welfare? Besides therapy and assistance?? Pay them a goddamned living wage. Your corporations are FORCING people onto food stamps. That’s just fucking insane

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Maybe you should marry her and get her off of public assistance.

        You do not pay hamburger flippers a “living wage’ you pay them commensurate with their skill levels and proven work experience. Education generally leads to higher wages.

      • Anthony Poirier

        Hey, I have a better idea. Let’s get corporations off welfare first, then tax them a fair a commensurate rate, applicable to their annual earnings, you know,pay their own way? Disable their ability to hide hoards of money in off-shore accounts so that the money can be re-invested back into the community instead of making a bunch of Europeans rich as well. That way, they can possibly contribute ALMOST as much as my disabled girlfriend already does.

      • Ian Kohn

        By default, yours will be elective. Too be sure, your getting a colostomy too.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Coming from a nitwit like you I will consider your words a compliment.

      • Cchimudccha

        Cur, apparently yours never developed so there’s no point in you having one.

      • Rhonda Warmack Houston

        Curmudgeon VN Veteran, The frontal lobe does not completely develop for anyone until one is at least 25 years, so I don’t believe Mr. Valley needs any type of surgery done such as that…what type of veteran are you?

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        USN ’65-’69. Two tours of VN in LBJ’s war.

      • Terence Francis

        Is that the reason for your outbursts of angry pretentious gibberish?

    • Rhonda Warmack Houston

      Jiim Valley, I’m inclined to agree with you.

      • Jim Valley

        I am now hearing her described as a “left-wing extremist”. Yet everything she says is pure common sense and pure common decency. Is that considered “extreme” now?

  • BoydCrowder22

    She is an aaa kicker who is sick and tired of :
    Tea bagger lies and misinformation that floats on the commode water of their dumber than dirt electorate … The other Reds are old white racists who got some $$$$ and don’t care if large segments of the American population get jacked up with no money, big education debt, no health coverage, no vote etc..

    • Jim Bean

      Says the guy who got an “F” from Professor Gruber in economics.

      • Lance

        This isn’t about economics it’s about common decent folks having the opportunity to be paid a fair wage, get rid of people in government who don’t give a damn about other people, getting rid of politicians who sell their votes to the highest bidder, etc.

      • Cchimudccha

        Jim, are you a beneficiary of trickle down? Did you get a job polishing the brass door frame on a 200′ yacht with a helipad on the fantail? Kool!

      • Jim Bean

        How many trickle down jobs do you think a 200′ yacht with a helipad on the fantail creates?

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  • strayaway

    Elizabeth Warren has great rhetoric but not much else. Sure, lets put some bankers in jail but that isn’t happening. Elizabeth Warren’s biggest accomplishment to date, besides convincing anyone she is an Indian, has been her consumer protection agency. It is an independent unit located inside the Federal Reserve and funded by the United States Federal Reserve whose owner banks it is supposed to regulate. Does anyone see a problem with this? That seems to sum up Elizabeth Warren. She is an Indian with wonderful rhetoric who sets up make believe solutions. She heap big smoke but no fire. At least she’s a big step up from Hillary. To Elizabeth Warren’s credit, she was one of only 22 Senators who recently voted not to give money to anti-Assad rebels.

    • JustaSlob

      That Hiawatha Bullshit is all you have.

      It’s not funny and frankly, it’s getting old.

      • strayaway

        I’m glad it got to you but you missed the part about the puppet consumer protection agency paid for by the banks it is supposed to regulate. Her Indianness serves as collaboration that what we have here is someone who seems to be largely hype like the audacity guy who was going to end the war immediately. You didn’t even give me credit for saying two nice things about her. You do support her vote against Obama’s Syrian war initiative don’t you?

      • JustaSlob

        She’s also trying to stop the revolving Wall street to Fed. jobs door… Has spoken up against Obama’s picks several times…. continues to fight for the middle-class… ain’t many out there bucking their own party like she is.
        As to your last question…. Let the Saudi’s deal with with it for once.
        I support staying out of all unnecessary conflict for a decade or two.

      • strayaway

        So go out and vote for Warren in the primary. I would prefer a Warren / Paul matchup than a Hillary / Jeb match. At least the chances of new and stupid wars would diminish with the former offering. Who knows?’ Maybe as President, your WASP princess would get behind her rhetoric instead of selling out to the owners of the Fed.

      • JustaSlob

        I voted for Gary Johnson last election. You?

      • strayaway

        2012: Ron Paul in primary, Gary Johnson in general election. I’ll be shopping for another third party candidate again if we wind up with a Clinton/Bush dynasty pre-selection.

      • Cchimudccha

        I agree. Let the god damn Allah worshipers in the Arabian peninsula spend some of our hard earned money we spent on their god given oil on defending the Middle East from IS, for shit’s sake.

      • Lucifer999

        “…serves as collaboration…”

        You should clearly avoid trying to use big boy words if you don’t want to embarrass yourself.

      • strayaway

        Collaborate: work jointly on an activity, especially to produce or create something.cooperate traitorously with an enemy.

        Corroberate might have been a better word but I thought that two examples of phoniness worked together to describe her character that, to me, betrayed working Americans she claims to represent.

        Perhaps you would like to weigh in on why you supported her recent vote against President Obama’s most recent attempt to take down Syria’s government; something that I praised her for. Tell us you aren’t going to vote for Hillary.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        It’s very funny. That’s why you self important liberal members of the flock hate hearing it.

    • JOGO

      Strayaway I watched the hearings…she is up against the most corrupt government of all time…unlike most who just join the club, she has made strides, She pulls back the curtain, exposing the greedy slave masters. A lot of people in America have Indian in them.

      • strayaway

        Talking and doing are two different things. I like a lot of her rhetoric too but she backs the mega-bank owned federal reserve as far as I know. A lot of Americans are part Indian but don’t include it on their employment credentials. I assume that I have a touch of Hispanic, black, and Uralic Asian in my family tree but I don’t try to get affirmative action points just because I think so. That’s loathsome behavior on her part.

      • Kissmyliberalbutt

        I agree strayaway, she talks big but when you look at who she supports IE Hillary Clinton who walstreet has in their pocket then Warrens words ring hollow. You to actually do something. Take Obama, he is great at talking and he convinced people he would be a left of center president…. sadly we got right of center instead.

      • Anthony Poirier

        Keep in mind though, her and Bernie Sanders are two players vs. an army of lobbyists and liars who would love nothing better than to see these two have “accidents” soon. And the more she presses, the more powerful her own allies and accolades become. Rome was not built in a day.

    • Nickhead77

      Strayaway- You sound like a racist with all that “piss-poor fake injin” talk. I’m not saying you ARE one, but when you make such stupidly derogatory sounding comments as “She heap big smoke but no fire”, you sure as hell make others think you very well might be, which in turn makes them think you already have a negative opinion about her, and that there’s no point trying to have a civil discussion with you about this particular subject… Just sayin’… As far as her rhetoric, I’m pretty sure the last three clips I’ve watched of Senator Warren talking during committee, she had a HEAP load of factual data to back up her questions and suggestions…

      • strayaway

        Nickhead, I mentioned I think I’m probably part black, Hispanic, and Uralic Asian; something a racist might not do. It was Elizabeth Warren who included “Indian” in her resume for her own professional self serving reasons. She isn’t even a Cleveland Indian or a Washington Redskin. I was dissing a white woman who claimed she was an Indian for doing so. Me think she speak with forked tongue. I wouldn’t talk like that to an Indian but a white person who profits by claiming to be something she isn’t or wears black face sets themselves up for some blowback. I do hope though that as she accrues more political power, she will put some bankers in jail instead of keep propping up the mega-bank controlled Federal Reserve.

        Elizabeth Warren did vote for the Senate amnesty bill which will make millions of illegal aliens eligible to compete for a wider range of US jobs, double the number of IT workers coming here to take middle class jobs, and add millions to share a wide range of social benefits . That puts her back on the side of the US Chamber of Commerce and makes her an enemy of US workers, the middle class, and taxpayers.

    • curmudgeon VN Veteran

      Kind of like a mostly White, possible female Barack Hussein Obama?

      • strayaway

        Elizabeth Warren has revived some hopes.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Only for the Jonathan Gruber crowd!

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Hopes for dopes.

    • Marvin C Gentz

      If she is a native American, that would make her more humane and reasonable than run of the mill caucasions. Why are more white men illiterate than any other race?

      • strayaway

        I don’t know. Indians did their share of wars and torture too. But to what do you credit Indians being more humane and reasonable; genetics or culture. If culture, explain Elizabeth Warren’s indian culture. I didn’t know more white men were illiterate than any other race.

    • Terence Francis

      Well, you should know a lot about rhetoric, sunshine.

  • CobrayRPB

    I hope Fauxcohantas does run. She is even further to the left than what we have in office now and she could be the final nail in the progressive coffin. She has grand concepts but no way to achieve them. Light rail? Medical research? How is that saving the middle class. Like most progressive machinations their only methods are wealth redistribution. That isn’t sustainable. You can’t keep being a Robin Hood because you are just enabling the ones who won’t work. A living wage? Your pay level should be based on the level of skill ypur job requites. You are not entitled to a good job, in America you have the opportunity for one though. You want a new car, earn it. Thats capitalism and what Warren advocates is socialism. I don’t want anyone to starve but the solution is simple. Stay is school, learn a trade, work hard and buy what you want.

    • Nickhead77

      “your pay level should be based on the level of skill your job requires. You are not entitled to a good job,”
      1. Not “entitled”? correct, but what do you say to all those janitors and maintenance workers who keep the school’s boiler and A/C working to make sure my kids and yours don’t freeze in the winter, or pass out from heat stroke in the summer? You think their “skills” are only worth what, exactly? And who decides that value, you? Also, HOW do you determine a person’s “value”?
      2. On the other end of the spectrum, do you REALLY think a 1 term congressman is “entitled” to $173,000/yr. in salary, as well as free health insurance even after his or her tem is up?

      (in case you were wondering, it’s for life)

      3. Let’s address the word “Entitlement” for a moment. (since you keep using that root word, “entitle”) The Webster’s definition of the word entitle means A: “to give to”, or B: “to give a right to” as a verb. Note the 2nd possible use, to give a “right” to? (inferring that those who are in charge can determine what an individual does or does not have a right to? Like the ability to work a traditional profession as a full time employee, and be able to make a livable wage?)

      4. I will say this only once, and if anyone would like to make a sad, vein attempt to refute it, they will be ignored and laughed at by anyone with enough sense to know how the payroll and taxation system in this country works.

      SOCIAL SECURITY AND UNEMPLOYMENT ARE NOT ENTITLEMENTS!!!! They are both EARNED! How do I figure? simple… Fact: you pay a percentage of your wages into social security for EVERY dollar you make while legally employed ANYWHERE. Fact: you cannot collect ANYTHING from social security unless you are either of retirement age, or physically unable to work due to injury or medical condition (but THAT comes out of a separate fund attached to Soc. Sec. If you know the difference between SSI and SSD, great! if not? Go look it up, I’m not your H.S. civics teacher…) And as for unemployment? Fact: You must be “EMPLOYED” and then let go/laid off/terminated for something other than theft, fraud, sexual harassment, etc.. to even QUALIFY for unemployment Insurance (Notice the word “insurance”? Yes, it is exactly that, don’t believe me? go look it up.) and even then, it is based solely on your PREVIOUS income as to exactly how much you get. But why do lazy people who don’t wanna work keep getting this “free handout”? you might ask.. Simple. The answer is THEY DON”T!!! Do you know what keeps the unemployment checks coming every week? Applying for work. That’s right, folks just like me have to PROVE (with a full list of information) that we are applying for jobs every week. (at least 4/wk in my state, but others vary, depending on their state legislation regarding funding and eligibility, but ALL states require a mandatory work search to continue receiving benefits.) And even after ALL that, guess what? It still runs out after 26 weeks… Yep, that’s right, unless you can prove that you’re attending school for you current vocation, or a new one, (good luck finding the financing for that while only getting 60% of your previous wages.) you get cut off PERIOD… Congress declined to extend those benefits last year before the shutdown, stating that “it would only encourage folks to NOT work, so making them go broke was MUCH better than helping them NOT get evicted or foreclosed on.” (even though the Dept. of Labor’s own figures showed there was STILL only 1 job available for every 3 people looking, and of the 7% of Americans who were currently unemployed at the time, over 4% had already been unemployed for over a year. (That’s double the 26 week limit on UI benefits, for you math geniuses out there)

      Finally you said, ” I don’t want anyone to starve but the solution is simple. Stay is school, learn a trade, work hard and buy what you want.” Well, I stayed in school, got an education, learned a trade (finance/banking) Had a good job, worked hard and STILL got laid off, so I was physical proof that your “idyllic version of a Capitalist life can be completely destroyed, even following your very simple and naïve rules.

      “Weel, go out and get another job! you’re qualified!” you might say. Well I tried exactly that, I sold my skillset and talents harder than a cheap 2-bit used car salesman in a tacky 3-peice suit. But remember what I said about there only being only 1 job for every 3 Americans looking? Yeah… There are just as many “finance specialists” and experienced “customer service reps” out there looking for work as there are cheap 2-bit used car salesmen… So, the only jobs left are the ones college and high school kids get. That’s right, I HAVE the skills to do quite a few white collar jobs, but since there aren’t any available, I applied to anything I could get, including “Manager at McDonald’s” (guess what the pay was?? $8.50/hr, 28 hrs a week… ) as a counter salesperson at a local automotive wholesale store (guess what their’s was? $9/hr. 30 hrs a week.) Do you know what both places turned me down for? “You’re over-qualified, and we can’t pay you what you’re worth. So tell me again how easy it is to make it in this defunct utopia of corrupt capitalism?

      I stated earlier that I’m nobody’s H.S. civics teacher, but I will leave you with this little historical tidbit. In Wisconsin, (Milwaukee in particular.) the most prosperous time (as with some of the country) that was ever experienced, was from the late 1940’s through the 1960’s. This was during the era of “true Democrats” that had run on many social issues, Like Gaylord Nelson (Gov. ’59-’63) John Reynolds Jr. (Gov. ’63-’65) And Milwaukee Mayors, like Henry Maier (the state grounds where the largest Music festival in the world is held, is still named after him.)Carl Zeidler (who resigned from office to enlist for WWII, try and argue THAT man’s patriotism.. HAH!) And even, *gasp!* Socialists! Like Carl’s younger brother Frank Zeidler, who held office from 1948 to 1960 (so he must have been doing SOMETHING right… Right?) and Daniel Hoan. (The unmistakable silhouette of our landmark bridge named after him, is still the gateway to our lakefront. But some of you may know it as “the bridge to nowhere”, that the Blues Brothers launched a car off of, and “magically” landed in Chicago in an all-too-famously quoted and celebrated movie.) But yes, thanks to these “socially-minded” men, even during our population boom of the 1950’s of German immigrants, we STILL had plenty of jobs to go around, and lots of good-paying ones at that. Do a little more reading, a little more economic fact-checking, and drop that quite racist sounding phrase you used in your opening sentence, Cobray, then maybe you’ll have a leg to stand on when you try to sound like a “big kid” when you post stuff in here.
      Today’s lesson was brought to you by the “E” for education, and the number 3.25 (the current prime rate for mortgages, according to the WSJ.)

      • CobrayRPB

        Ok you wrote a lot and ill try and keep up. A janitor isn’t making minimum wage if he is a boiler technician etc. I was referring to people with a do nothing job that require little skill. Fast food…telephone operators and security guards for example. They also don’t make minimum wage. I don’t know many non teens that do. So if you fooled around in school, maybe got a GED and never applied yourself, working at McDonalds should allow you to make the rent etc. How can the government even know what one needs to make to get by….cities vary from towns etc. A living wage in LA isn’t the same as upstate New York.

        Anyway, my problem with social security is the chicanery and fraud involved. Why can’t I have my money put in an account in my name only I can access? That way it is not raided like it has been. Same with unemployment….if I am gainfully employed my whole life can I have the money back? Im using the term entitlement like the media uses the term optics….you can’t take the literal translation. Also, it is VAIN not vein when referring to an action or attempt

      • CobrayRPB

        So the economy under Obama has been amazing hasn’t it? How come you don’t have a job?

    • Ian Kohn

      You don’t give a flying fudge biscuit

    • Cchimudccha

      The trade unions didn’t achieve fair wages for workers until they forced the issue with sometimes violent strikes. The current generation need to pry themselves away from their idiot boxes of somnambulance and learn that, and act on it.

  • Loupgrru

    She may be the best we can get, but…there is not one Senator who will openly detest Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians. She also seems to be fine with the idea of war with Iraq.

    • Lucifer999

      I don’t detest Israel’s treatment of the Palestinian terrorists. I hope we would behave exactly like they are if Cuba started firing thousands of rockets into Florida, and tried to sneak suicide bombers and snipers into Miami. I don’t think we would sit quietly and just take it.

  • Matthew Reece

    The root of the problem is Federal Reserve manipulations that create malinvestments which culminate in recessions. If we had sound money, income inequality would not be nearly as bad and currency manipulation would not be leading to Austrian business cycles.

    • Anthony Poirier

      …..Yeah,,,,,

    • Cchimudccha

      It’s called corruption: Allowing banks to make investments in direct competition with their clients, and using the Federal Agencies to insure loans that they new were total junk from the beginning, and therefore should by jailed for massive criminal fraud, which sadly, NONE OF THEM WERE, BECAUSE OUR GOV. IS OWNED!!

      • Matthew Reece

        It is not “our government,” whatever that means.

    • Terence Francis

      Austrian? Are you alluding to the Far Right economic teaching of Fredrich Hayek?

      • Matthew Reece

        Hayek was not far-right. Menger, Bawerk, and Mises were more important than Hayek in the Austrian School.

      • Terence Francis

        Not according to Friedman. Your point?

      • Terence Francis

        More important? That’s a bit vague…

      • Terence Francis

        Now empirically thoroughly discredited. An experiment that decimated the great Middle Class, and caused incalculable grief to the working poor and below.

      • Matthew Reece

        Economics is an a priori rational discipline, not an empirical one. The people who have “decimated the great Middle Class, and caused incalculable grief to the working poor and below” are the Keynesian central bankers with their currency debasement.

  • curmudgeon VN Veteran

    You people really admire the phony ‘Indian’ who played the system? Which of the two old hags going to carry the flag for your out of touch party in 2016? This woman is as bat-dh*t crazy as Pelosi and DWS.