I Have a Strong Message for Those Defending the Violence in Ferguson

Let me get this out of the way first – I’m not here to write about whether or not I believe Darren Wilson should have been indicted in the shooting death of Mike Brown. People have already had their minds made up on that issue for weeks. People who think he’s guilty are going to continue to think that he’s guilty and people who think he’s innocent are going to continue to think that he’s innocent.


But what I will address is this embarrassing and pathetic violence that’s transpired in Ferguson following the announcement that Wilson wasn’t going to be indicted.

Anyone remotely trying to defend this disgusting display of idiocy should be ashamed of themselves.

First, I would like to commend the vast majority of protesters who have demonstrated peacefully and the various groups and individuals who did their best to try to ensure that violence didn’t break out. Unfortunately, deplorable violence ultimately broke out last night in a shameful display of ignorance and stupidity.

And I absolutely mean a shameful display of ignorance and stupidity. 

I understand people are upset. I know racial tensions still run deep in this country and this issue was about far more than just Darren Wilson and Michael Brown.

But there is absolutely no legitimate reason for the violence and awful behavior I witnessed.

What the hell does looting, rioting, vandalizing and setting fire to local businesses have to do with what happened to Mike Brown or the grand jury’s decision not to indict Darren Wilson? The answer is simple: Nothing. 

Yet there I saw, all over the internet and even in the mainstream media itself, people actually defending this reprehensible behavior. I’m sorry, but I have zero leeway when it comes to anyone trying to defend these people.

I watched reporters on CNN get things thrown at them and cursed at. I saw one get threatened by some of these looters because they were filming them. I saw one female reporter get hit in the back with something and another get hit with a rock. I saw people blocking major roads so traffic couldn’t get by. I saw windows in businesses that were broken for no reason other than someone felt like destroying something. I saw police cars destroyed, doused in gasoline and burned.

Again, there’s absolutely zero excuse for any of that, and I have no patience for anyone who would even attempt to defend it.


Then let’s not ignore that at the root of all of this is the death of Mike Brown and the fact that his parents urged protesters to not react violently. Because nothing says you’re there to honor Mike Brown and his family quite like rioting, looting and burning down local businesses despite the fact that Brown’s parents specifically asked people not to act out violently.

That absolutely makes sense.

But this violence, for however long it lasts, has been an absolute embarrassment. Small business owners might now lose everything because some of these people decided to act like absolute jackasses. To say nothing about the overall negative economic impact this will ultimately have on the community. Good luck getting some of these businesses to rebuild (if they can), let alone attracting new businesses to the area. Yet there are people out there with the gall to actually defend this behavior.

Pathetic.

I feel terrible for Brown’s parents because this violence is the ultimate show of disrespect to them and their late son. At a time where they are still grieving over the loss of their child, they’re now forced to witness despicable acts of violence by people who are carrying out these acts “in the name of their son.” Those of us who have common sense know that this violence isn’t about justice for Mike Brown. These bottom-feeders who are vandalizing, looting, and destroying these businesses are simply using this situation as an excuse to act like heathens. They’re destroying their community for absolutely no good reason.

And while some violence might have been expected, those defending it should be ashamed of themselves. This violence does nothing but hurt the community of Ferguson, show absolute disrespect to the Brown family who begged people not to react violently, and help to further divide this country racially.

I can only hope that saner heads prevail and people honor the wishes of Mike Brown’s parents. At the end of the day, they’re the ones who lost a child. At the very least we should all show them the utmost respect. Because whether or not you feel Wilson’s actions were justified, Mike Brown was still their son and they can’t ever get him back.



Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Kenneth Johnson

    And I must say tonight that a riot is the language of the unheard. …. of the unheard,” particularly in societies where speech is not suppressed. -ML King Jr’.

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    • Jim Bean

      And I must say the rioting is the equivalent of largest KKK Rally advocating for a lynching that ever took place, the only difference being that those attending the rally weren’t white. You have been being ‘heard’ daily for three months. You don’t want heard. You want excused.

      And finally I must say that the disproportionate predisposition towards violence and criminality as demonstrated by the behavior of the protestors in Ferguson is consistent with the disproportionate arrest and incarceration rates in the black community. Ferguson proves that you get treated differently (and arrested more) because you behave differently.

      (Thanks Allen, for being courageous on this one.)

    • Kymberly Rymer

      “The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it.” -MLK Jr

      • christianh

        He and I disagree on that… Sometimes – in ‘Murica – carefully planned violence or hostility can move mountains… Ask the cops…

      • Kymberly Rymer

        Every cop I know has never chosen violence first. Its a last choice. The bottom line here is there is a grieving mother and father. To those who say they are upset over and reacting to what this officer did to Michael, How about show respect and love to his parents by respecting their wishes…civil disobedience…

      • Bill_Fan

        And that’s an idiotic thing to say.

  • Pere’s Parrot

    Remember how violent the Tea Party was always about to become, according to the media? Whatever happened to that?

    #FergusonDecision

    • johnbuoy

      They’re all still at Bundy’s ranch, cleaning their guns and not getting arrested, let alone shot, for their trouble.

  • James Seip

    no the Repubs and the rich are destroying the community. No jobs(sent to China) reducing social programs and taking even more from the little help they get

    . Try less corporate profit, better pay and benefits for employees, better education, entry into a middle class life. These people are looting and rioting because they are fed up with life in America or really the lack of a life in America.

    • saltcay

      So, burning down a Little Caesar’s Pizza makes it better? Destroying hundreds of jobs in the area is aging to improve their life?

      • James

        the rioting and looting isnt to make life better. it is because they are fed up with the system that has not treat them with dignity and that does not change. in the words of MLK “riot is the language of the unheard”

      • christianh

        Can the Brown family and friends build a new Michael…? is Pizza Hut offering a living wage to people who buy their pizza…?

        No corporation is innocent, people are…

      • jb1907

        Poor people shouldn’t be buying pizza.

      • christianh

        No pizza for you I guess…

      • jb1907

        We order pizza to be delivered maybe once a year. My wife knows how to make pizza dough for like 30 cents. Why spend $12 for something that can be made at home for less than $2.

      • christianh

        So that was your weird way of introducing you wife’s pizza recipe…? Have you ever heard of a “bedside manner…?” Google it if not…

      • jb1907

        Well, my point is, if you are poor, learn to make easy stuff at home that costs 90% less. Learn to bake bread and pasta. Learn to make pizza sauce that has less chemicals that stuff bought at a store. Red beans and rice are cheap to make. And to the point above, there are food dessert in certain parts of town because of the idiots like those in Ferguson that can’t control themselves. Why should any busy set up shop there ever again.

      • christianh

        Oh, you mean like have “ghetto cups and pots…?” I was on reduced lunch in school and BOTH my parents worked…

        Maybe you should get a WordPress site and offer “Tips To Poor People…”

      • christianh

        As to why a “busy” should set up shop there, I give you areas before riots that are known as “food deserts…”

        That’s where businesses follow you around the store, call the cops on you and make you crazy and then sat, SEE…

        YOU ALL SHOULD BURN IN HELL…

      • Marina Arroyo

        you know the ingredients for pizza are more expensive than the pizza right? look i went to culinary school and i cant make shit at home because its so expensive. flour, milk, eggs, butter, the equipment, etc, is way more than the $5 pizza. if you only have $8, you cant go to the store and drop money to cook shit. you get the pizza so you can get by that day and dont starve.

      • patrick

        That’s absolutely not true. They buy ingredients in bulk so it is less per unit price. Otherwise the business wouldn’t operate making and selling pizzas. There isn’t any milk in pizza dough either. You are going to end up with a cake with the butter and all in that. Pizza dough is just flour and water and salt.

      • saltcay

        And what about those INNOCENT PEOPLE that are now UNEMPLOYED, just before the holiday season? Not just the corporate owners, such as Little Caesars (NOT PIZZA HUT) and Walgreens. Those corporations will still make a profit this year. What about Sam? Oh, you don’t know who Sam is? Sam is the owner of SAM’S MEAT MARKET. It is a Mom and Pop shop that has now burned to the ground. Everything he had was in that market. Insurance won’t cover it. What about Antonio French? Don’t know him either? He is the Alderman that opened a community service office to help the citizens and businesses of Ferguson. Yup, his office is burnt to the ground as well. It was behind the beauty supply store that was looted and burnt.

        How does any of this honor the memory or life of Michael Brown?

      • christianh

        I feel really bad… I felt bad when a lot of things happened to me… Not sure if I can offer them condolences just let I’m not sure if I can offer them to Mike Brown’s parents…

        POTUS said that because he couldn’t say anything else… I’m not POTUS…

        I say I’M SICK OF IT… And have no other opinion… As an engineer I searched for another but facts led me there…

      • Marina Arroyo

        there are few individuals looting. a lot of the protesters have started blocking stores to prevent those who are.

        this isnt about making life better, its an outcry of fury and a demand for change that didnt come.

        but something you should know:
        the business that are being burned are primarily owned by black families. did you know that they burnt down mr browns church? do you know who has a history for burning black businesses and churches? the kkk. do you know the leader of the kkk already admitted to working with the ferguson police? this isnt the protesters getting violent, this is the kkk doing what they are historically known for knowing that everyone is gonna pin the blame on the protesters.

      • jb1907

        I bet they left the liquor store alone…..

      • saltcay

        No, they hit the liquor stores last time!

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        First stop on their Christmas looting list.

      • Marina Arroyo

        no way to please the racists unless all the people of color are dead am i right?

        did they loot?
        no
        liar they’re animals why are you covering
        okay they did
        of course they did theyre black. they left the liquor store alone though cause ya know black people need their 40 oz!
        no the liquor stores were vandalized
        of course black people would steal booze

        you realize all your bullshit racism is fake as fuck right? no matter how you answer the question, you always look for a way to make the victims look like the shit you want them to. you dont care about whats happening, you just want to have a clever way of being a racist asshole at the end of the question mark. fuck you.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        You retards have sich command of the English language. I love having such reasonable assholes like you as adversaries. Go gargle shit you ignorant turd.

      • ShawnNJ

        Have you read some of these comments?
        This is the problem this country faces. Uneducated and not willing to learn. Just angry people. Blamers of their own problems.
        This is not the country I grew up in.

    • wendy

      No they r rioting to get on the bandwagon and take advantage using any excuse to be openly violent asses which they were b4 this incident even happened

      • christianh

        So they were just waiting for a cop to KILL SOMEONE so they could show they are violent…?

        I tried to tell people Lysol was a bad idea.. REPENT, ya freak…

      • Wendy Goff-Hawkes

        Waiting for a riot to steal and destroy…yes I do think that. They disregard the poor family who begged for non violent ways to deal with impossible situations as such

      • christianh

        Then you are the heathen who can’t think straight.. Maybe you should hang out with some black people…

        We don’t send all day drinking 40 ounces no more than young whites spend all day shooting up schools on meth…

        The first MARCHES were PEACEFUL… The cops started everything.. Arresting national journalists, dismantling equipment, arresting people for standing on a sidewalk, showing up with tanks and combat weapons for UNARMED CITIZENS…

        There are videos that show how brutal police are now… When will you say enough’s enough..? When your neighbor’s kid is murdered and the cop says “IT looked like a demon…?” Wilson’s testimony…

      • Bill_Fan

        You’re completely full of sh1t

      • christianh

        I guess that’s a good response that doesn’t answer the question… This is not about race it’s about brutal cops brutalizing and killing Americans…

      • Liberal_Tess

        It’s only a riot when its black people! You don’t THINK anything, just use any cover to express you racism and contempt for others.

    • wendy

      I agree with u on the comment about the economy, but not in this instance.

      • christianh

        So if black people stand up for their rights, then the GOP is not destroying the economy…?

      • Wendy Goff-Hawkes

        Never said a word about black people…was referring to violent people being asses. Stand up for rights by stealing and starting fires and destroying other peoples property because injustice exists? That don’t work in a civilized society. Violence is color blind folks!

      • christianh

        But you had to throw in “violent people being asses…?” Not Americans fed up…? It has to be thug riot and not #FERGUSONSPRING…?

        Hicks like you are the problem.. You nonchalantly dismiss while openly excluding and saying See, look…

        Therapy should be in your future… People were out in force in a lot more cities than Ferguson..

      • Wendy Goff-Hawkes

        K..I get it now. The black gentleman I just saw on the news deserved to have his church burnt down last night to send a message to help justice prevail. That makes sense

      • christianh

        As usual, excusing your lack of action to correct an economic problem affecting VERY American… It must be nice to be oblivious to the problems your society causes others…

        And churches can be rebuilt… Mike Brown can’t…

      • Wendy Goff-Hawkes

        Yes. Many protests. Angry, hurt people, getting their messages out w/o destruction and hurting more innocent people.

      • Wendy Goff-Hawkes

        A NYC hick. Anyone know where I can get moonshine, and gun shops in NYC?

      • Wendy Goff-Hawkes

        NY C protests were peaceful…js

      • Liberal_Tess

        Not in this country! It never has been color blind – color is always considered when dealing out “justice” If you REALLY believe it is color blind, you either 1) haven’t been paying attention 2) are living in extreme denial 3) are to unintelligent to interpret what goes on around you 4) know better, but are just trying to use the same old lies so you can be part of the oppressive class!

      • Wendy Goff-Hawkes

        Meant to read as violence does come in every color as well as good people do, to state a fact. I know that is not how ignorant people in this world think.

    • Kevin

      Those people are not protesting those things. They’re using Michael Brown’s death to score some cell phones, hair weaves, TVs and light some businesses and cop cars on fire.

      • christianh

        And YOU are the problem… You just cant see black people as Americans who have the same goals as you… You filth make me sick… You can’t just steal a cell phone without activating the SIM… Women don’t loot so your hair weave comment is more RACIALLY MOTIVATED DEMORALIZATION… Just like Ferguson cops…

        Admitting YOU have the problem woudl go a long way… But I have to ask why you aren’t concerned about the meth epidemic tearing a new one into the “white midwest…”

        Why is every crime by a black person, savage, but criem by whites ( yeah there’s plenty of you in jail too) is “he’s troubled and needs help..?” Why…? Say it with me PEOPLE LIKE KEVIN ARE THE PROBLEM WITH RACE…

      • Bill_Fan

        Women don’t loot? LOL
        Better turn on CNN!!
        And whites that commit crimes are a$$holes too.

      • patrick

        You seem to have a very unclear view of this whole conversation regarding what is happening to this town right now. Essentially people are burning down peoples businesses and destroying their property and livelihoods. I read your other comments and you seem to be angry at the system, yet you are not writing anything about the people that actually commit the actions. Somehow you have an image of the police officer that you have constructed mentally, which you are using to hold all of your stereotypes about authority figures.
        What frustrates me about the point of view that you are writing from, is that you haven’t examined where you got it from. You just have it and you are angry. From the mood that you are portraying in your other posts I expect that if you reply to this it will only be an unexamined answer that comes from lashing out and running in mental circles.
        Because you won’t sit down at the figurative ‘table’ and describe the exact changes that you would like to have happen, your anger and your reactions will only be short sighted and inherently frustrating to you when they only produce more of the same. The fact that you just use the word freak in caps in all of your posts shows that you feel like an outsider and that you don’t respect that other people have opinions and can only be reached, communicated with, and integrated into a conversation and a platform for change, while they are respected.
        I am white, I have many black people in my life that I work with, love, respect, play large parts in my life, rely on, trust, get into arguments with, agree with, go to lunch with…and EVERY other part of my life. There is not magic wall of melanin that makes people different. The sooner that you look at those around you, (including police officers) as the same as you in many aspects of their lives, the sooner you will be able to get out from the frustration and actually get some results.
        Now, if you will excuse me I have to catch the LIRR to go have Thanksgiving dinner with my friend’s family whom are the only people who invited me to dinner today and are in fact. Black.
        Funny, I don’t think that it is going to make a bit of difference on my holiday.

      • christianh

        TL;DR…

        I said what I wanted at Microsoft, Accenture, Morgan Stanley and many other companies… Didn’t work,…

        You have black people in your life so I should forgive all the racism I’VE EXPERIENCED… Should they…?

        KCID A TAE

      • Marina Arroyo

        most protesters arent looting and are preventing stores from being robbed by those who are. a lot of the businesses and churches that have been burned were owned by black families. you know who has a history of doing that? the KKK.

      • Marina Arroyo

        seriously. white boy shoots up uc santa barbra after posting a manifesto online about why hes killing women and people of color. no no hes mentally unstable. no he fucking wasnt aspurgers doesnt even make you violent. way to throw the mentally ill under a bus. he was a spoiled brat with a superiority complex because of all the racism he learned (no one is born hating another color, it must be learned) and he was entitled thinking he deserved women for existing. he went on a rampage killing dozens of people and everyone said he was just mentally ill and the girls should have just gone out with him. but a black man gets shot for doing absolutely nothing and everyone tries to make it his fault. no it wasnt. he didnt do anything. he didnt need to be apprehended by police at all, let alone publicly and illegally executed. but nah he was some street punk n**ger who deserved it.

      • Marina Arroyo

        there are individuals looting yes, but the protesters have started blocking them from hurting the community. the people that are burning the businesses and the church of the brown family are the KKK. or so to be believed. it has their stench all over it; the same tactics used during Jim Crow are being used right now to destroy ferguson and make it look like the protesters are doing all of it when in reality, only a few of them have gotten out of hand.
        and honestly, get off the racial high horse, white people do this after sporting events but no one calls them animals or insists they deserve to have their human rights stripped. when the giants won the world series, shit got crazy. but thats just white people having fun right? no need to get all uppity. its those dangerous black people fighting for their right to exist peacefully and without violent threats from the police that we really need to worry about.
        get the fuck out of here with that.

  • Turnipblood

    You say the community is destroying itself? After three months of repressed information? After a preemptive emergency declaration? After countless hours of media instigation? After a strategic decision to make the announcement after nightfall? It almost sounds as if it was designed that way, eh?

    • loder74

      You’re saying that blacks are malleable, soulless things that have no ability to use fundamental cognitive skills? WOW

      • Turnipblood

        dafuk??

      • Turnipblood

        loder, I’ve been contemplating whether I should even spend the energy trying to reply to your accusation. After reading some of your other comments, I think we’re on the same page, mostly. so I have to ask….WHAT??? I said no such thing, and I have no idea how you interpreted that message from my comment.

      • christianh

        No, he’s saying GET OFF OUR BACKS, FREAKS… I’m a software guy who owns no jeans… Don’t tell white people like you that…
        You STILL show your asses… Perhaps even more… I can’t be demoralized freak…

      • Danny

        Only reason you didn’t understand. …was because you and MB probably graduated from the same high school. It was quite clear to most of us.

    • Turnipblood

      Ummm…right. I guess I was obtuse. I was leaning for a sardonic/sarcastic passive-aggressive tilt toward the “let them eat cake” school of thought. But y’all take what you need from it. I don’t mind.

  • Paul Crowley

    “this situation as an excuse to act like heathens”

    That’s a troubling claim to see here. You’re saying they’re acting like non religious people, that’s what heathen means.

    • Denis Antoine

      from Merriam-Webster:

      Definition of HEATHEN
      1: of or relating to heathens, their religions, or their customs
      2: strange, uncivilized

      Synonyms: barbarian, barbaric, barbarous, savage, heathenish, natural, Neanderthal (or Neandertal), rude, uncivil, uncivilized, uncultivated, wild

      • Marina Arroyo

        heathen was a pejorative term reserved for people who followed the Norse religion. thats why the synonyms are all negative.

      • patrick

        If I could have a wish granted it would be to live in a world with less pedants and more critical thinkers.

    • Turnipblood

      My every waking moment is acting like non religious people.

    • christianh

      I’d say to the author, do one of those black people make overs and move to Ferguson OR ANY CITY for awhile… Then tell me who the heathens are…

      • Stephanie

        Teenagers.. Teenagers are heathens..

  • JamesFBarry

    I see it also as the first clear warning to the shrinking white population. Things are not going to stay as they have been.

    • t. kerce

      And how do you respond to the riot where a bunch of white people went crazy at a pumpkin patch? They overturned cars and set fire to things and attacked police officers.

      • Kevin

        In other cities besides one?

      • jb1907

        Detroit, chicago, LA….

      • Judy Kachelmeyer

        We seem to also conveniently forget sports riots. The latest being in San Francisco after the World Series 2014. Google pictures from that riot. I don’t remember seeing wall to wall coverage- do you? We sure have short memories.

    • Kevin

      Yes, they are.

      • christianh

        You are treading on very thin ice… People are fed up with you… By 2016, you may lose a large bloc of white women and young people AGAIN…

        The places that are OVERRUN by Fascist GOP are the poorest and least educated… Can you say UNSUSTAINABLE…?

      • jb1907

        Whose fault is it they are uneducated?

      • christianh

        The state government in charge of educating citizens with money from the taxes everyone pays…?

        I’d rather pay more than have crumbling schools that think the internet has some to do with indoor volleyball…

        Explain why every GOP GOV has cut education FOR THE WHOLE STATE…? Even some Blue Dogs are doing it… You can’t do that and complain that uneducated people are turning to crime…

    • jb1907

      Wait, so white people might be in the minority soon?

  • Joshua Ross

    Anyone that isn’t upset enough to revolt is a fool. Anyone who doesn’t support the revolution and writes bullshit like this is a god damn coward.

    • wendy

      I wouldn’t want to be around when a waitress brings u the wrong dish :/

    • And this ‘revolt’ is going to bring about…what, exactly?
      ‘Revolution’ against what and with what are you going to replace it?

      • christianh

        Well, after the last time you went crazy we got a black president… I’d beware…

      • Marina Arroyo

        against being killed for what color you are what the fuck do you think

  • Denis Antoine

    There is plenty to demonstrate against. There is an ongoing culture of distrust and demonization from both sides. There is culturally engrained unnecessary use of violence. There is an endemic lack of value given to the community, not the black community or the white community or the Hispanic community, but community as a WHOLE. There is a troubling lack of opportunity for better futures. There is indeed plenty to demonstrate against, but violence is NEVER the way forward.

    • christianh

      Maybe you should tell the cops that…

      • Denis Antoine

        I am saying this to ALL involved, cops and rioters. There is plenty of blame to go around on all sides.

      • christianh

        BS… What you’re ACTUALLY saying is that the people whose jobs were shipped out were partly to blame… You can’t be IN CHARGE and deny your responsibilities…

      • Denis Antoine

        Do not put words in my mouth. I never said that. What I am saying is that the treatment of America’s poor communities is appalling, but so is the destructive nihilism of the rioters. So yes, there is blame on both sides. Everyone has the right to demonstrate peacefully, but there should be no room in society for the kind of behaviors that were displayed last night, and far too many other times before.

      • christianh

        Pizza Hut can build a new building, the Browns can’t build a new Michael… Neighbors can’t congratulate him for getting through high school and choosing a trade..

        They even pissed on his memorial… Or maybe it was to put out the fire they started…

      • jb1907

        Yeah, I don’t think MB was ever going to have a real job since he had the attitude of stealing.

      • Marina Arroyo

        oh shut up for crying out loud god damn are people STILL trying to demonize him? he stole a pack of cigarillos. big freaking deal. a lot of people have stolen in their life times. are you really gonna tell everyone that petty crimes define you for life? really? Michael brown will never get to have a job because HE WAS MURDERED BY A COP IN THE STREET, he didnt get to live that long. really? you never stole change from your moms purse as a kid? $2 does not define someones worth, and its certainly not enough to defend killing someone. its okay for mike brown to be shot because hey petty theft, he didnt deserve to have a future or a job. but the cop that shot him? hes still got his job and over $600,000. fucking christ.

      • jb1907

        actually,it was about $48 dollars worth. So you are saying it is OK for everyone to just steal $2 here, $10 there and put a store out of business. He was killed for being an idiot. He could have just stopped and listened to the cop, but he didn’t.

      • Marina Arroyo

        doesnt matter what he “stole” (which it was found out that he stole nothing, even the store clerk admits to mike brown being a regular customer who paid for his stuff) because, now stay with me on this, but darren wilson had no right to shoot mike brown. brown was attacked by the cop who at the time didnt even know the robbery had taken place, and then shot multiple times as he ran away. IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT HE “STOLE”, HE DIDNT DESERVE TO BE SHOT IN THE FUCKING STREET.

      • patrick

        Where are you getting your information? You sounds as if you have a video of the incident that no one else has been allowed to see. If that is the case then you should share your evidence with everyone. More likely, you haven’t reviewed the facts of the investigation that are available and you are basing your statement on imagination and not factual evidence. Mike Brown did not run away, he confronted the officer in the officers car violently, and then charged him after the officer pursued him. This is the information that is available to the jury that decided not to indite.
        Start from the basics here and work your way up. If you don’t believe the evidence that was gathered is factual, then start with stating that. If you believe that you have evidence to the contrary of credible witnesses have stated, what the officer stated, what the forensic reports revealed, what the autopsy revealed, etc, then you should definitely make that known. This is a situation where you are inventing facts as you go while the legal system is looking at evidence.
        “Deserve” has nothing to do with this. We are looking at the facts and deciding if there was a law broken here and if the officer was doing his job or not.
        People who make up facts as they go along live in a fantasy world. Your should haves, deserve, and what you think ought to have happened show just how out of touch you are with this. Keep doing that and you will get nothing solved. Absolutely nothing. It frustrates me because soooo much time is spent just getting you to operate on facts instead of emotion.

      • hithere

        They can’t build a new Michael. Maybe he shouldn’t have put himself in that position. What the hell did he think was going to happen when he punched a cop and then tried to get his gun? Not to mention start to walk towards the cop menacingly without his hands in the air? The protesters demanded justice, and it was served. I guess people don’t care about hard evidence and facts if it doesn’t go their way. The peaceful protests are great. Unfortunately a few bad apples decided it was a much better idea to burn and steal shit.

      • christianh

        I have to ask… If it was a big white kid, would you believe he attacked a cop… To take his gun…?

        I want you psycho FREAKS to explain what his plan was… To give the gun to his grandmother as a souvenir…?

      • jb1907

        The kid never should have robbed the convenience store. What social injustice does the store owner get for being stolen from?

  • Gary P

    Allen, I agree with your article…
    But the factor you fail to see is the one of “hopelessness”… These youths in this town have no future for a better life, no money to get out, and feel they have been abandoned by the rule of law… Hopelessness begets anarchy… Our nation is responsible for what happened in Furgeson…

  • loder74

    Could not have said it better. The images out of Ferguson look like a third-world war zone.

    • christianh

      Well, the GOP has legislated Missouri into third world status with no health care, terrible education opportunities, crumbling infrastructure, anti-science politicians…

      I guess now the CURTAINS MATCH THE DRAPES…

      • jb1907

        Really? The GOP is the sole reason for this? I think not. They have had a Democratic Gov for the last six years. They have had more D Govs than R Govs. Who else are you going to blame?

      • christianh

        Well, they are the party that has SCOTUS Justices attending fundraisers with the same Fascists who brought about Citizens United…
        They are the same party that was all patriotic while Bush had the war machine turning out profits..
        Who then became deficit hawks as soon as a DEM was elected POTUS…

        The same party that wants to take away health insurance from millions who live in a state where they refused every part of the ACA…

        The same party with factions now trying to sue the president for something they voted for him to do…

        The same party whose HoR schedule would have allowed Obama to play golf four days a week for a year…

        I could go on, but just go the NRCC or NRSC or the page of any Republican politician…

        See their austerity plans for climate catastrophe…

      • jb1907

        Sorry to burst your bubble, there are rich Democrats that made money off the war that they also voted for. Most didn’t vote for ACA, it went through since the House and Senate was controlled by the Democrats.

      • christianh

        Most didn’t vote for it but it went through because they did…?

        GOP fascists didn’t vote for it… Olympia Snowe was so disgusted she quit after doing ALL the negotiations for the RW… And yes she got amendments…

        Stop saying the GOP is for the middle class.. It’s a disproved talking point… And it makes you a sucker…

      • jb1907

        When did I say GOP is for the middle class? But it also doesn’t mean the Democrats get all the lower class votes.

      • christianh

        No, only the ones who expect to not pay for jet fuel for the rich… Make NO mistake… A vote for the GOP is just that: a vote to fuel the jets of the rich with taxpayer money…

      • CobrayRPB

        You keep using the word fascist but I don’t think you know what it means. The left is all for state control and regulation….hallmarks of fascism, while conservatives want the exact opposite. At least you share the hysterical nature of your fascistic, progressive ilk, if not the name.

      • christianh

        I know exactly what it means… That’s why I’m confident in the description… Fascism is not regulation, it’s business running the government…

      • CobrayRPB

        Amen

  • Thanks. You saved me a lot of typing.

  • Liberal_Tess

    There are times when the outrages are so egregious that the only SANE response is violence – towards a society that allows the murder of black children, that condones cops killing unarmed children, that defends the killers! (By the way, your use of the word “heathens” offends my pagan beliefs – typical of Christian invaders to blame and demonize the victims! I would say, in their unthinking violence, they are acting like Christians!) I disagree that violence is never the answer – I could list many instances when violence would be appropriate (try voter suppression, Jim Crow laws, segregation – I have the utmost respect for those Civil Rights marchers who demonstrated non-violently, BUT violence was certainly an appropriate reaction!) If being a progressive in your mind means defending the status quo, and the “rule of law” even when they are tools of oppression – then YOU are not a progressive in my mind. You are part of the chattering class, that drives people to the most dire actions, then blames them! Sit in your white privelge and condemn those who see no value in the society that kills when it wants to, and justifies those murders with the law! I(‘m sick of liberal “hush now 0 just wait for Jesus to come save you – it would be WRONG to rise up and kill your oppressors! Nope – I always was on the side of the Nat Turner! Those who quietly walk into the ovens are WRONG! It is time to fight against the murderers who run things!

  • Liberal_Tess

    One more comment – there is nothing progressive when you adopt the disgusting mannerisms of the preachers who used the bible to keep slaves quiet! It is time for uprisings!

  • Judy Jackson

    There is NEVER a reason to destroy a community, HOWEVER, where was the outcry when rioting & looting happen after a stupid ass sporting event? I am NOT defending what happened in Ferguson, but so many news sites are making it sound as if ONLY AA communities riot & destroy. That is simply not the case.

  • Liberal_Tess

    By the way, did you SEE the tweet from the scene that said “the protest didn’t turn violent until the protestors were gassed with tear gas? But to you, they should NEVER fight back! Only white cops have the right to defend themselves? What a fine example you are of a “progressive” Nope!

  • DrPhrogg

    Actually, there is a comparison, although it is not a justification. Those upset about the violation of the rights of one person are now demonstrating by violating the rights and privacy of many more. It makes as much sense as killing for peace.

  • jackwhite

    No rational person disagrees that there is no justification for the violence and destruction of property taking place in Ferguson, or anywhere. But that’s not the same as there not being a “reason”. Justification and reason are two different concepts. There can be — and is — a reason for a group of people to commit criminal acts, and it’s helpful to consider that. That’s not tantamount to justifying it.

    • Liberal_Tess

      I’m very rational, and I disagree completely! Violent refusal to go quietly into the holds of the oppressors is both rational and admirable!

      • jackwhite

        Yes and no. I don’t entirely disagree with you, Tess,
        but innocent people … and some people are innocent … were harmed and lost property through no fault of their own. You may make the argument that individual freedom is more important than the general welfare, but I’ve never been entirely comfortable with that concept unless it has exceptions.

      • Liberal_Tess

        I agree that innocent people were hurt, and that is bad – most protestors damage their own neighborhoods (See Watts, etc). But to yell at people who have found the courage to fight back is hardly a progressive position. And you never hear all this outrage when sports fans tear up the town! The protestors were attacked first by cops trying to get a response – I’m sorry they fell for the bait – but if they are being tear gassed, then I think that “rioting” makes perfect sense. I think it will take major uprisings to get a change in this racist culture – clearly the cops in Ferguson are being encouraged to keep murdering unarmed black kids – so violent revolution in certainly understandable. How long are we supposed to sit quietly and politely by while they kill kids?

  • jb1907

    This is why black people will never get ahead as a culture.

  • adcbeast

    What happened after the riots in Watts and DC in the 60s?

    The Civil Rights Act was PASSED …

    I’m white an I advocate riots in every city across America until legislation is passed that ends dumb local cops F#@$ing up people’s lives based on race

    • CobrayRPB

      You are a barely literate fool. You think you are some revolutionary when you are some kid who lives at home and is a keyboard slacktivist. You weaklings don’t want any form of law enforcement so you can smoke weed or drop acid. The strong survive without law and order, and you are not strong. You can’t fight, shoot or run away so you will be the first to go. Leave the community organizing and radical garbage to the professionals….Obama and Sharpton. You are a tool of theirs you pathetic freak.

      • Liberal_Tess

        You appear to be an under educated, contemptible racist tool! STFU with your silly rants. Right, blame Obama and Sharpton because racist cops kill kids. You should talk about living in a basement – you troll!

      • CobrayRPB

        Define rant. You are acting like an hysterical child. STFU? You dont like what I’m saying so you resort to using an initialism? Real mature. I bet you are some 20 something hipsterettte who gets all excited by pale, athsmatic wimps in skinny jeans with ironic tee shirts and moronic mustaches. You are the worst kind of liberal because the only thing that trumps your monumental ignorance is your condescending, strident tones. You have no concept of how the real world works and you have no self identify so you attach yourself to this ideology because they tell you that you are brilliant for going along with their pap and drivel. I’m sorry your gender studies degree from Oberlin warrants you the second shift at some 3rd rate coffee house. Maybe if you weren’t so off puttting you could function in decent society. Now THATS a rant kiddo

      • adcbeast

        @cobrayrpb:disqus .. DOOOSH … Ret USMC

        PhD + JD Georgetown .. US Senate

        WHITE ….

        You are a complete IDIOT and that is being kind

      • CobrayRPB

        Yeah….what was your MOS? What were your duty stations? You are a senator and you are calling me a “doosh”? I didn’t know they allowed cell phones in the day room, nut job. PhD? Was it written in crayon by an orderly? You are one delusional schizophrenic

      • adcbeast

        @cobrayrpb:disqus .. I’m not a senator D#CKBREATH

        You got OWNED on the facts and you have ZIP

        NEXT !!!

      • CobrayRPB

        U claimed you were, junior. Still have to resort to swearing and the idiotic talk of the millennial generation. You are no Marine, doctorate holder or lawyer from Georgetown or otherwise. So will the esteemed senator from Disneyland please stand up and acknowledge he is a delusional liar.

    • CobrayRPB

      Also, ding dong, there were several civil rights acts. Republicans supported them and Democrats did all they could to block them. Learn your history instead of drawing anarchy symbols in your text books

      • adcbeast

        @cobrayrpb:disqus .. WRONG … The SOUTHERN STRATEGY where the DC establishment decided to split the democratic party by courting southern racists and bringing them to the republican party .. those same Dixiecrats are 2014 republicans

        Democrat Lyndon Johnson got the Civil Rights Act passed

        PhD + JD Georgetown .. US Senate

        Try again Limp D……

      • CobrayRPB

        I’ve been hearing that same tired nonesense about old southern dems are the new GOP. It isn’t true no matter how many times you write it on your cell wall. Johnson had some choice words about blacks to be certain. He wasn’t altruistic at all. Just like the amnesty Barry is pushing….it’s just a way to get more votes for your pathetic party. Throw some promises and trinkets at people and watch them vote for you.

      • adcbeast

        @cobrayrpb:disqus .. so you have a problem with REALITY? Thanks for admitting it ..

      • Liberal_Tess

        You are as ignorant as you are arrogant. You don’t know anything about history or politics! So why not just go away – and spend your time with idiots who believe your nonsense. I lived thorough this HISTORY you are distorting! I thought even trolls understood how the Southern Strategy by Nixon deliberately invited you knuckle draggers into the republican party! I’m certain the Marine Corps regrets every penny they invested in the hopeless task of civilizing you!

      • CobrayRPB

        Touche! Also, I was a soldier for 20 years, not a Marine. If they were unhappy with my service they had a funny way of showing it

  • CobrayRPB

    Brown’s parents are trash too. Mommy is waiting for her day in court over the assault stemming from the divvying up of her saintly son’s merchandise loot. If you are so worried about besmirching your son’s name that you beat someone up with a lead pipe ober the profits of his death, you will have a special seat in Hell.

  • Liberal_Tess

    Aren’t you proud, Allen – look at that garbage that is attracted to your stuff. CobrayRPB appears to like your stuff, anyway!

    • CobrayRPB

      Well….that’s almost a complete sentence if not a half formed thought. You get a gold star for trying you special little snowflake

  • HappyJohn9

    They’re definitely not protesting anything. They are RIOTERS and need to be treated as law breakers. Hope all the store owners survives. Hope the insurance companies reimburse them for the damages. Then, I hope they leave Ferguson and move their business to a city that is filled with respectful people who appreciate their neighborhood business owners.

  • Cemetery Girl

    I was very nervous about the protest in Cleveland last night. Tempers are high. I’m avoiding online local news because the comments about the boy that was shot in Cleveland infuriate me. (I’m sorry, but comments that a black 12 year old with a BB gun being shot by police deserved it because he was “just another thug” tick me off.) The wedge is being driven deeper between the races. We need to work together, examine our society. Not all police are evil (but if we just consider the last 12 months and the publicized shootings and reports of cops sexually assaulting women, there is an issue), and no race is evil. I saw, after the grand jury, that some people had a “we won” attitude. When we are so deeply divided none of us win. We’re supposedly progressives, our attitude should reflect moving forward to make a better society.

  • Amy

    Excellent post. This violence does nothing to help the community and does everything to hurt it.

  • Bill Edelman

    What I found most interesting was a scene on the news in which ACTUAL protesters stood, arm in arm, in front of local stores in Ferguson, protecting them from the horde of criminals who blew into town to take advantage of the situation by destroying property and looting businesses while everybody was focused on the lawful protests.

  • Paranormal Skeptic

    “Riots are the language of the unheard.” MLK

  • BillieOB

    I totally agree with you Allen. I grew up in Ferguson and it made my heart brake when I saw all of the destruction because it discredits the work that the protestors have tried to accomplish. This situation has presented a perfect opportunity to expose racism for what it is and to transform it and I would hate to see that opportunity destroyed. But, at the same time, something stinks. Those buildings that were destroyed were at the same location all the previous protests took place. Where were the police, the National Guard, the state police and all the other law enforcement the governor called in? And who really set those fires? Maybe some here don’t remember, but in the 60’s the FBI were known to incite riots during the Civil Rights protests and the Vietnam war protests. I’m not saying it;s the FBI, but anyone can use those tactics to try to make the protestors look bad and to justify why the African Americans are treated “like the violent animals that they are”. It sure worked when they released that video of Mike Brown shoplifting those cigars. People are saying that he deserved to get shot because he’s a thug. Lord have mercy if everyone that shoplifted when they were a teenager were killed, there wouldn’t be but about 200 people alive.

    • Marina Arroyo

      the tactics used, burning black businesses and churches, have historically been employed by the kkk. you know whos already admitted to working with the ferguson law enforcement? the kkk

      • BillieOB

        Yes, it certainly could be the KKK (with a little push from Ferguson PD). I don’t want it to sound like another conspiracy theory but I know prosecutors hate to be proven wrong. It’s obvious he did not want to have Wilson indited by the way he handled the situation and the Brown family and the people of Ferguson know it too. Of course this added to their frustration which should be understandable. They have been blocked at every turn. Their concerns have been devalued and ignored, they have been lied to by the PD, they have been disrespected and patronized and the very person they were concerned about is having his character assassinated. No one has acknowledged that in one of the worst school districts in Missouri, Michael still passed all of his Common Core tests and graduated. The Grand Jury proceedings were highly irregular and the leaks were a desecration of the law. Also the fact that the prosecutor ignored the Brown’s legitimate request for a special prosecutor that was not bias shows that either he just does not get it or he flat out did not care if this community got their due justice. He was just going through the motions to try and convince the public that he was doing his job, but the people in Ferguson know better but they don’t know what to do about it. Then you add the fact that the KKK was handing out fliers, threatening lethal force against these people. Isn’t that a death threat? When the governor was lecturing them about how the protests must be orderly, he did not give any warnings what so ever to the KKK about their violence and made no effort to protect them. Also, during this time, voter registration forms from Ferguson were lost, (the clerk said it was just a mistake) and a Ferguson officer was arrested for sexually assaulting a 26 yr old woman he arrested for a traffic warrant. These African Americans have been murdered, had other violence directed toward them, been devalued, called n*****ers and F*****ng animals, had their right to vote stolen from them ect….and they are angry. At every step they are being treated as if they don’t count and are subhuman. The officials and the PD, who don’t even live in Ferguson should be ashamed and wake up and realize how inhumane and IGNORANT they are. Might I add that they are a reflection of some of the racist members in the GOP that treat President Obama the same way, blocking his efforts at every turn and defaming his name.

      • Marina Arroyo

        BEAUTIFULLY said

      • Citizenright

        You mean the DEMOCRAT created and maintained KKK? That one?

      • patrick

        I am just seeing a pattern of you posting inflammatory nonsensical comments. Maybe you are into that.

  • Jaina

    Peaceful demonstration, attempts at dialogue, civil disobedience, attempts at dialogue, acts of defiance and disruption, attempts at dialogue. THEN you start burning the ESTABLISHMENT… not the community. We learned this at the Boston Tea Party people. Follow the steps.

  • patrick

    I am going to state this in a simple way.
    The difference between “Black” People and “White” people, is the amount of pigment in your skin. THATS IT.
    Stop saying “Justice for the Black community” or “Justice for the White community.”
    I am going to put this out there right now. I have about 2 nano-grams of melanin per square centimeter of surface area of skin, and as a “2 nano-gramer”, I feel that much more of my character, decisions, and aspects of my life are basically not different than the “2.1 nanogramers” or the “22 nano-gramers”
    The reason that I am saying this is that if you as a “Black Person” or a “White person” are going to come on here and make this the defining character of your decisions, your community, your stance, your voting, your CULTURE. Then there is ZERO hope that you will get anywhere.
    If you come on here and say that as a Human, Citizen, Voter, you believe you are being treated unfair, abused, used, violated, then its my job as a member of your group to help you get justice when you are wronged and to treat you with dignity and respect.
    If you read this comment and believe in it the please pass it around so we can get something done about bigotry. If you don’t agree with this then look deep deep inside and you will see that your desire to be separate because of your skin color makes you a racist in every sense of the term.