Supreme Court Gives Republicans Another Huge Victory in Their Attempt to Rig Elections

Antonin_Scalia_When it comes to voting, I live by a simple rule: Anyone who’s trying to make it more difficult for Americans to vote shouldn’t be trusted.

There’s no logical reason why anyone would support making voting more difficult for Americans, other than doing so because they had some kind of ulterior motive behind it. And by that I obviously mean that they’re trying to rig elections.

See, Republicans can’t outright ban people from voting. So what many Republican-controlled legislatures around the country have done is pass legislation that targets voting trends. They realized that while they can’t outright block people from voting, they can try to use loopholes that make it more difficult for certain types of people to vote.

Specially, those voters who don’t often vote for Republicans.

The most known process they’ve used to do this has been strict voter ID laws. And while those have made the headlines, its their attack on early voting that’s most alarming to me. Because there’s absolutely zero logical reason why anyone would object to early voting. Unless, of course, you’re trying to make voting more difficult hoping to rig elections.

We saw how that played out during the 2012 elections in Florida where the lines created by Rick Scott’s corrupt voting laws made national news. It’s estimated that around 200k Florida voters didn’t vote due to ridiculously long lines.

Well, the GOP just scored a huge victory in their continued attempt to fix elections. The Supreme Court ruled 5-4 that Ohio’s new voting laws which reduce early voting times in the state can remain in place.

And take a wild guess which five justices ruled in favor of this law? That’s right, the five conservative ones.

I know, you’re shocked.

Amazing though, isn’t it? These same five justices who’ve ruled repeatedly that money somehow equals free speech, seem to have no issues with a state such as Ohio trying to restrict the rights for some people to vote.

So, according to these conservative justices, money equals speech therefore it can’t be restricted – but the average American’s voting rights can be.

Because, again, anyone who’s trying to make voting more difficult is clearly not acting in the best interests of the American voter. We already have an issue in this country where too few Americans are getting out to vote in the first place. Cutting early voting times will only increase that problem – not help it.

But Republicans really don’t care about voting rights, our civic duty or any of that cliché patriotic rhetoric. What they care about is passing these laws hoping that they’ll disenfranchise Democratic voters so that it’s easier for Republican candidates to win close races.

And as long as conservatives control the majority on the Supreme Court, most of these Republican-backed laws that are trying to disenfranchise voters will continue to be upheld.


Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Stephen Barlow

    Then we just have to call in bomb threats @ high volume RED polling places
    Call them in to the cops, election boards, fire stations and media outlets.

    Hack Vonage and blitz the RED districts with tvery public dangers. We already know no one is patriotic enough to put criminal Justices in the grave, so let’s defend our right to a fair election..

    Why can’t SCOTUS be sued in civil court? It’s a 1st amendment RIGHT to redress grievance’s.

    • Masmani

      Flagged, you are threatening to commit a federal crime here.

      • Stephen Barlow

        NOPE. Merely suggesting an organized response to criminal activity by the appointees of SCOTUS.
        In a time of universal Republican Partisanism, defending the Constitution is a revolutionary act.

        To paraphrase Orwell. Who predicted GOP actions in ANIMAL FARM.

      • Masmani

        Calling in bomb threats is a Federal crime, whatever your motivation, my friend.

      • Stephen Barlow

        You don’t. REALLY UNDERSTAND the 1st amendment do you?

      • Masmani

        I understand that you’re a nasty little $hit with a closed mind and an open mouth!

      • Steve Brains

        I understand I’d love to sh*t in your mouth, and ears.

      • Masmani

        Wow, snappy! Did you learn that rapier like whit in gym or homeroom?

      • Nemisis

        Steve brains is simply Barlow with another account.

      • Steve Brains

        Your Mom kept begging to French My ass with a full load.

      • Big Goober

        Thanks for showing everyone the level of the mentality of leftists. I’d be laughing at your lack of debating skills if it weren’t so sad.

      • Steve Brains

        was YOUR Mom’s DESIRE!

      • Big Goober

        Thanks for not knowing when to put the shovel down. You statist types never did get the idea of a logical argument. That’s why you love Marx so much. It totally goes against common sense and human behavior. The more you pay people to sit on their duff and do nothing the more they sit on their duff and do nothing…not even think! Nice to see your doing the same. It must be rough knowing that if you’d gotten up and applied yourself and stopped with the drugs and the partying you wouldn’t have to so hate those who had put down the bong and actually accomplished something with their lives. Before you respond with another your “sophomoronic” pearls please go read a dictionary and a thesaurus and try to put something cogent and cohesive that might actually rise to the level of an insult rather than childish blathering. Or is a little intelligence too much to expect?

      • Steve Brains

        Marxism is MORE about normal human behavior than Capitolism.

      • Big Goober

        which Capitol? DC? Albany? What grade are you in?

      • Steve Brains

        I am NOT a GOOBER!!!! So a most likely I am post graduate degreed.

      • Steve Brains

        I would REALLLY kinda like:
        cohesively cogent blather.

        Childishintell, the kind that BUSH used to MURDER almost ATE THOUSAND volunteeeeeeeeeeeers!

      • Steve Brains

        At least I recognize a typo when i see one.

      • Steve Brains

        GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOber?
        BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG Gooo?
        Ber?

        Really?

        WHERE do I START 2 laugh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Steve Brains

        Thanks for having such a slutty Mom.

      • Mort

        guess ur PU$$Y hurt? awww…he’s sowwy..FUGG U!

      • Big Goober

        That’s a pitiful comeback. Why don’t you address the argument with logic? Oh I forgot it’s above your skill set.

      • Steve Brains

        Coming from GOOO ber?

      • Bah

        You really don’t understand what kind of threat you are to a society when you would call in bomb threats.

      • Steve Brains

        Less of a threat than if I avoided a debate on TERRORISM, sued the President for doing EXACTLY we BEGGED him to do and starved children both at home and in school.

        Treasonously shutting down the Government, dumping our credit rating, threatening fiscal apocalypse… Thiose were just like saying… “Hey, Then we just have to call in bomb threats @ high volume RED polling places

        Call them in to the cops, election boards, fire stations and media outlets.

        Hack Vonage and blitz the RED districts with tvery public dangers. We already know no one is patriotic enough to put criminal Justices in the grave, so let’s defend our right to a fair election..

        Why can’t SCOTUS be sued in civil court? It’s a 1st amendment RIGHT to redress grievance’s.”

        Except the REDS REALLY DID ALL THAT SHIT TO THE VOTERS AND THEIR LOVED ONES!!!!

      • Bah

        Avoided a debate on terrorism? What where are you coming up with all this crap? Starved children both at home and school??? WTH??? Has your Shutting down the government is treason?!?!?!?! hahahahahhaha?!?!?!?!? I guess its treason that the government isn’t running on full capacity on the weekends too huh?
        Hey, if you think “avoiding a debate on terrorism,” makes you less of a threat to society, please make your phone call for a bomb threat and explain it that way in the court of law. Also let the media know what you think, get your word out. We will all have a good laugh about it.

      • Steve Brains

        Boehner is screaming how horrifically dangerous ISIS is, yet not important enough to have the 90% incumbents in this Congress debate it BEFORE the ELECTIONS or even during this term. Cutting food stamps by 8 Billion and foreclosing on school lunches is STARVING CHILDREN in school and at home!!!

        Look at the RED candidate’s fearmongering ads about ISIS and how YOU are about to be invaded and overwhelmed, deluged in terror attacks.. but is one single Republican even willing to stand up and SPEAK for his constituents SAFETY, SECURITY and DEFENSE? NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! Not ONE!

      • Bah

        I must have missed and stepped all over those starving children without noticing.

        You do realize it was to reduce the budget by five percent, and was tightening requirements on able bodied adults between ages 18-50 without dependents. Making stuff up again.

      • Steve Brains

        Fully DOUBT the PREZ missed a WORD of the intel or security briefs…

        why are 234 REDs devoid of honor, abrogating a sworn OATH to duty….

        and collecting a 6 figure FEDERAL BIG GOVERNMENT pay check…………
        withOUT public scrutiny?

      • Steve Brains

        OH? TOOOOOOOOOOOOOO RRRRRREAL?

      • Steve Brains

        ATE million of them.
        WHY si the THREE HUNDRED NINENTY BILLION F-not flyable-35 a CONTINUING hard on?

      • Steve Brains

        I haven’t touched a phone.

      • Masmani

        How many different handles do you have?

      • Steve Brains

        You trying to pick Me up?

      • Masmani

        Get ready because Dems are going to get slaughtered in November.

      • Steve Brains

        The DNC needs to sell the whole truth HARD. Just ask the simplest question:

        “Do you WANT another shutdown and tax cuts for the rich bosses? or do you want a quality career job, Complete education and healthcare for your kids?”

        Want more gridlock, Vote a straight RED ticket.

        Want progress on Immigration, highways and infrastructure, benefits for the Veterans, alternatives to perpetual Middle Eastern WAR? Back the President with a BLUE House and Senate.

        VOTE the stagmant foot dragging cowards who are afraid to floor a bill for a vote… OUT in November.!”

        If they DON’T hit it that hard, they deserve to get slammed.

        But there is NO CIRCUMSTANCE which the Republicans deserve anything but an unemployment check.

      • Nemisis

        Flagged as well as screenshot.

      • Masmani

        Ohhh, I’m ascared!

      • Nemisis

        no you, nut…Barlow.

    • Cemetery Girl

      You are advocating committing a crime.

    • atunionbob

      I can only agree with you on one point. That being why cant we sue the Supreme court in civil court. Other than you need their permission to sue them, by law, there is NO reason not to. So Stephen go ahead and sue them. Good luck by the way.

  • Jim Bean

    When the day comes that the Supreme Court is majority liberal, the constitution ceases to exist and there ceases to exist any reliable standard for the execution of the nation’s affairs. We enter the era of mob rule and emotional – not intellectual – governance.

    We’re almost there already. We can’t have border control like all other countries do. We can’t verify voter eligibility like all other countries do. Politics has become the art of persuading one group of citizens to hate the other. We’re being effectively manipulated in much the same way that leaders of Islamic extremist factions pit themselves against others.

    • Kevin Pickle

      1. Which country are you referring to? Can you name another first world nation that allows its border patrol to violate its citizens civil rights up to 100 miles from the border?
      2. Other nations aren’t hamstrung from issuing a national ID card by religious wingnuts who fear the number of the beast. We all already have a social security number. If we did what every other first world nation did, everyone could have easy voting access.
      3. You can’t be politically divisive and then casually toss off rhetoric about the dangers of political divisiveness without acknowledging some responsibility.
      4. You can’t actually call the party that rejects science, education, and statistical reality intellectual.

    • Ryan

      Because being a liberal is unconstitutional? Pack your tired rhetoric up and take it back to the inbred church/gun store/large truck you crawled out of, you straight-up dummy.

      • CygnusRising

        That’s the attitude, Ryan, unfortunately. They see themselves as the standard and anyone else it hurting them and shouldn’t be allowed.

    • Ingersollman

      It is the so called conservatives in this country that are eroding the rights we have via the Constitution. Their stated goal is to rewrite it to serve the interests of the rich, white, christians. Not for everyone. Only a select few.

      • Jim Bean

        On what issue(s) has anyone in this country moved to the ‘right’ of where ‘center’ was 40 years ago?

      • TeeDee

        Why aren’t any of the conservatives on here explaining why it’s okay to keep people from early voting? People have different work schedules, some are disabled and can’t be waiting in long lines because of certain medical needs, etc. So why go all the way to the Supreme Court to keep people from early voting? Was the Republican party fighting to obstruct voters 40 years ago?

      • Stephen Barlow

        I think a 4 day national voting weekend would solve everyone’s complaints. ID cards and registration until Halloween, voting 10 hours a day from the first Saturday thru Tuesday. Punch card ballots standardized nationwide tabulated by computers
        Officiated by volunteers from the UN.

        Actually, if the UN officials supervised all elections, we would foil the Putin’s, Husseins, Karzais and Bushes.

      • Bah

        Yea, because all UN officials are looking out for the U.S.

      • Bah

        I guess the only people that have different work schedules and are disabled are Democrats huh?

      • Jim Bean

        Probably because conservatives can’t understand why more than 28 days of early voting is needed. The lines aren’t THAT long and no one is THAT disabled.

      • Bah

        You know Jim, it’s actually insulting to the disabled for these people act like that they cant get it done in 28 days.

      • Jim Bean

        Just as insulting as it to the less-well-to-do to act like we can’t have a credible voter ID system. I never see them offer a counter proposal to achieve the objective. They just want nothing done at all.

      • Bah

        You’re on top of it. Rarely do they make proposals and articulate their arguments. The only thing they can propose is incoherent arguments and false assumptions against conservatives.

      • crabjack

        Pretty much all of them…

      • Jim Bean

        But none in particular?

  • TheEquilizer2U

    If you cant be bothered to get an ID
    Then you shouldn’t be allowed to vote

    And how is it that all these people are getting welfare, but they don’t have an ID to vote?

    • Ingersollman

      FYI. Most welfare recipients are in the red states. Most welfare recipients are in the conservative strongholds left in this country. Does that tell you anything? Or can you get past Faux news talking points and use your own brain to come up with your own conclusions?

      • Masmani

        True or not what does that have to do with protecting MY vote by making sure it’s not diluted by voting fraud from illegals or people like Connecticut state Rep. Christina “Tita” Ayala (D-Bridgeport?

      • Will

        voting fraud DOES NOT EXIST to the extent you are talking about. What about the votes of the poor, elderly and infirm CITIZENS who have difficulty getting those papers? For the little fraud you prefer 10000’s of American citizens be excluded. The price of ID’s is the equivalent of a poll tax… and YOU know it. Whenever conservatives lose they blame NON-EXISTANT VOTER FRAUD instead of owning up to fact that got nothing to run on except HATE.

      • Masmani

        Voter fraud doesn’t exist just like baby pigeons don’t exist. You don’t see it so it’s not there.There are hundreds of cases of verified voter fraud in Fla. This site doesn’t allow links to info that dispels leftist fantasy. So you’re telling me all those people that can’t get an iD don’t drink, drive, go to the doctor, pick up medicine, have a bank account, cash checks, have a job or go to a Democrat or NAACP meeting? Because you can’t do any of those things without an ID.

      • Bah

        We all know those evil pharmacists want to keep the patients from getting their medicine.

      • Masmani

        Exactly, They’re all Republicans, I’m sure!

      • Bah

        I guess we shouldn’t have to fill out any paperwork either. You know we might be preventing the illiterate from voting. *GASP*

      • Steve Brains

        4 – 7 7 MILLION voters disenfranchised because the SCOTUS REDS violated their oath of office. The DEMS need to put forth a petition to IMPEACH THEM FOR THIS. Should have been done last year.

      • gbrbr

        You can’t reason with cons. Facts don’t dissway them from making their imaginary points.

      • Steve Brains

        89 out of 700 million votes in the last 2 decades. I doubt more than the ice in your Bourbon would dilute your worth.

      • Masmani

        Bwaahhaaaaaaaaaa! You libs swallow everything 0bama and Pravda on the Potomac shove down your throat. Any less information you’d be a black hole of knowledge.

      • Steve Brains

        Let’s see your ACTUALLY LIST of ACTUAL voter fraud cases brought to CONVICTIONS. being CHARGED and tried and acquitted is NOT voter fraud. in most cases it’s probably Prosecutorial Misconduct or Fraud.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        FYI, that is more leftist propaganda
        Every single welfare person is a democrat and a liberal

        Sorry boy, you lose

      • goldenpipewrench

        Generalizations -Here is one. Every single Republican is in favor of a poll tax on the poor…

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Well the democrats destroyed the middle class
        It only seems fair the poor should be next

      • Steve Brains

        And most of those WON’t BE voting RED with a WHITE Dem on the ballot.

      • Bah

        Yea, they’re all racists huh?

      • Steve Brains

        Just the majority of poor white trailer trash like you, living on the Government dole and acting all uppity for Sarah Palin concerts. Voting against your own prosperity to stick it to the Half White Harvard Grad.

        But when A WHITE WOMAN is on the ballot, you watch the REDS lose 4-7 % of their base and take a landslide loss the next 2 terms.

        We won’t see a RED president until whites are the majority in Texas again. Which is most likely NEVER!!!

      • Bah

        You also forgot that I’m white devil slave master living in a double wide that enjoys spending his free time picking up lot lizards in my tractor trailer on the way to the border to shoot some illegal aliens and in victory I like chug down my moonshine from a mason jar.

        Ya dun git thim rashios thur do ya? Aint reprasentin uz. Ya tard.

      • Steve Brains

        I don’t need to say anything. i am sure you proved yourself as a racist quire well.

      • Steve Brains

        Now you are just stuttering.

      • Steve Brains

        Cut an paste wisdom. Must come from having cheated on tests so much in the few years of school you managed not to get held back in.

      • Bah

        You also forgot that I’m white devil slave master living in a double wide that enjoys spending his free time picking up lot lizards in my tractor trailer on the way to the border to shoot some illegal aliens and in victory I like chug down my moonshine from a mason jar.

        Ya dun git thim rashios thur do ya? Aint reprasentin uz. Ya tard.

      • Steve Brains

        Nah!!! i doubt that a nickesucking lot liz would do more than LAUGH at your infected crotch!!!!!!!

        SOrry MATH eludes thee.

      • Steve Brains

        Just don’t get caught, murder is almost still a crime in Texas.

      • Bah

        Once again, you are a blatant coward.

      • Big Goober

        2012 Mitt Romney won the state of Texas with 57.17%, over Barack Obama’s 41.38%, a margin of 15.78%.

      • Steve Brains

        TEXAS??? I prove My case!

        HOW many Latinos were DENIED the vote because of registration miss spellings?

      • Big Goober

        Do you try to be factual or is just making it up as you go along good enough for you Machiavellian types?

      • Steve Brains

        proper ID means having a birth certificate, which to many people who immigrate can not obtain. Even Federal Judges who have vaginas are disallowed the vote in Texas.

      • Big Goober

        More leftist blather.

      • Steve Brains

        Nope, 12% or more of voters over 80 do NOT have a birth certificate because home births into the 30’s were extremely common since 50% of the population was RURAL.

      • Big Goober

        Which goes for all my aunts and uncles and they all had drivers licenses. Your argument is a total sham. Use facts not emotional knee jerk pablum.

      • Steve Brains

        I am fully aware, as are the rest on board here of exactly how inbred you family is.

      • Steve Brains

        Prove Me wrong, with FACTS and a source TOGETHER for once.

        I pointed you out as such a buffoon yesterday I got a note from the editors… saying how brutally hard they laughed and how much they know I was spot on about you and caught you dead to rights… but could I ease up on the mentally and genetically challenged for the rest of this week.

      • Big Goober

        I like the way you argue both sides of an issue. It’s clear you will take any tack to prove your point.

      • Steve Brains

        Wasn’t GOOB Gomer’s stupid cousin?

      • Steve Brains

        And that proves how desperately RACISTTexans are.

      • Big Goober

        “poor white trailer trash like you”. Wow are you a racist a bigot and a classist all rolled into one or what? Some of my family use to live in a trailer park and now they fly private jets and have part ownership in a major sports franchise. See the secret is they didn’t sit around feeling sorry for themselves, smoking the bong and waiting to collect from the government. It’s called drive and initiative.

      • Steve Brains

        I LOVE white people. I AM white people. i am a 5%er and the rEDS have being in control in 9 of the last TEN recessions. REAGAN did everything you are pinning on obama, but he actually had HELP from Congress with everything EXCEPT selling weapons to terrorists and supporting drug cartels in Central America. Who ARE the source of those desperate children you claim is carrying EBOLA in to the country.
        Define the difference between a racist and a bigot?
        Goober, you don’t lie well at all!!
        A sports franchise? he sell beer or peanuts in the stands?

        Do I need to repost what I explained about you again?

      • Big Goober

        Explain what? You can’t even form a sentence. Why don’t you use facts and debate the issues instead of using petty insults and childish emotionalism?

      • Steve Brains

        So that would be another fail on your part. How MANY wives have had to annul a marriage to you because of “Failure to Launch” syndrome?
        You MUST be running out of cousins by Now. did you check under the bridge? There is ALWAYS a troll or three hanging out down there.

      • Big Goober

        1 post gets 8 responses from you. Wow, So much of so little value. Lies and 3rd grade insults are all you have. You frustration is showing. Every petty swipe at me is an admission of your lack of a grasp on a factual argument. Please continue.

      • Steve Brains

        Nah, just honing up My skills for the day you actually bring something HONEST to the table. I give what I get and if you call it chickenshi*t, then hear Me laugh, it’s beacasue I know what YOU look like in the mirror bwwwock bwock BWOALKER!

      • Steve Brains

        Could be because you have to get your mommy to type your responses for you.

      • Steve Brains

        Does your mommy check your replies for you Gooberturd?

        Does she call you Gooberturd to?

        Is that the Mommy with all the uncles who make you wait on the porch while the grunt and swear?

        The one that OWNS A STAKE IN A MAJOR LEAGUE SPORTS FRANCHISE?

        Or the mommy that works the parking lot @ the games?

      • Steve Brains

        Stealing lines from Barack Obama will Not make you any more white.

      • Big Goober

        1 response and I receive 8 pieces of liberal gibberish, 140 character or less puke from you. Again I challenge you to form a logical argument. I know that’s like waiting for President Obola to stop lying but I figured it’s worth a try.

      • Steve Brains

        I’ll use you as THE example Gooberturd.

        Premise: That “Gooberturd Brand DOUCHE JUICE” is the most disgusting part of the vaginal cleansing process.

        Hypothesis: That DOUCHING APPARATUS is an inherently neutral part of the process as it has other uses, even as a conversation piece, and that the DOUCHE JUICE, the fluid part of the process containing the Gooberturds and other detritus of either menstruation or intercourse of any variety. IS the single most disgusting part of the entire DOUCHING PROCESS.

        As a system, one has the Douche BAG, the Douche HOSE, the Douche Nozzle, the Rinse Agent which upon expulsion from the vagina becomes transformed into the DOUCHE JUICE.

        Ask you self this folks” “As I hold each of these items in My cupped hands, which would really be detrimental to My health if it touched My face or mouth?”

        A- The Douche BAG, a sterilizable rubber container that is both flexible and malleable that will contain the CLEAN Rinse Agent, which is commonly a slightly acidic mixture of Water and either lemon juice (lemonade?) or vinegar (wine if fresh). Since neither the Bag nor the Rinse Agent are toxic to human and one even smells appetizing (which explains it’s historic popularity as a vaginal detergent) I think no one in their right mind would be AFRAID of either. In it’s pristine condition that is.

        The Douche HOSE and the Douche NOZZLE are similarly constructed and are both sterilizable as well. In the hands of a serial killer however, the hose could be a device to be frightened of. However, the HOSE in itself is not a choking hazard.

        Upon application of the Vaginal Rinsing Agent via the Douche BAG, HOSE and NOZZLE, only the NOZZLE is commonly fouled during the process of Douching thus it is advised TO avoid holding it you mouth while you as hanging up the bag and hose.

        Alas, comes the PROOF of the Premise!!!

        As the rinding agent remove secretions from the walls of the vagina, the once Pristine Rinsing Agent becomes severely fouled with a combination of uterine wall cells, both living and dead; sperm, both living and dead; Blood in various states of decomposition; mucus, lubricants and spermicides used for contraception or pleasure, the possible condom portion; and rarely but on occaision, car keys.

        This analysis of the Rinsing Agent now transformed into DOUCHE JUICE is expelled from the semi clean vagina by pressure applied by the owner of said vagina CLENCHING HER hip and abdominal muscles.

        The flotsam in the toilet (or tub or sink or bucket or other chosen container) is the refined “GooberTurd Brand DOUCHE JUICE”.

        if you held THIS blend of nutrients in the cupped palms of your hands, wouldn’t you unequivocably state without question that DOUCHE JUICE is the most disgusting item in the whole of the Douching process?

        Now TELL us all Big Goober…

        The only flaw in My LOGIC is that YOU do NOT agree with the rest of us. That Big GooberTurd DOESN NOT find DOUCHE JUICE as disgusting as a clean rubber bag and tube, nor as disgusting as a plastic nozzle.

        You’re welcome Goob. SO when no one calls you a Douche BAG, or a douche HOSE or a Douche NOZZLE. You can be proud of youself because YOU do NOT believe that DOUCHE JUICE is the most disgusting substance on earth. So disgusting that most people can’t even say it out loud. But I assure you GooberTurd, whenever your name comes up, people put down their Juiceboxes and remember you solemnly.

      • Big Goober

        Hey Allen Clifton. Is this the highest level of argument someone can hope to find from this site? Absolutely pathetic.

      • Steve Brains

        Th logic is EXACTLY what you BEGGED for GooberTurd. Or should I rebrand you Douche juice!!!!

      • Steve Brains

        Which team and how big a share? You have a pilot in the family? He flies the Romenys around?

        I have made MORE money in fifteen minutes hitting a bong and dropping acid than all your sisters, aunts and mother did from both on their knees and on their backs for the last 100 years.

        I hit a lottery when I was 32 and married a tobacco heiress when I was 35. it took one minute to buy the ticket and I asked My wife to dance and we went straifht to the parking lot after the second song ended.

        Total: LESS THAN 15 minutes. Then I did what George Soros did, I shorted currency and bet against the tide. I have made almost 17,000% on My single investment in futures contracts since Bush blew the economy apart and abandoned the nation in debt.

      • Big Goober

        ” we went straifht to the parking lot after the second song ended.”… Why would you tell everyone how easy your wife is?

      • Steve Brains

        Because SHE’S proud of how hot I turned her!!! I guess a guy like you who has to BEAT a girl enough to force her to LET you pay her…. will never understand that.

        Tell us Gooberturd, how many times have you put your sister or cousin in the hospital when you got horny?

      • Big Goober

        Why hurt anyone when your wife is so willing?

      • Steve Brains

        hehehe WOW! You have the density of a Black Hole!

      • Steve Brains

        BEcause it’s all you know how to do Douche juice!!!

      • Steve Brains

        BEcause it’s all you know how to do Douche juice!!!!

      • Steve Brains

        We are still waiting on that little bit of honesty about selling beer and taking parking stubs for WHICH FRANCHISE NOW?

        We all know what you are Gooberturd. you have NO ONE fooled.

    • MissPicky

      What “people”? You are assuming that the people without picture IDs are on welfare? Then you don’t know much about the problem. There are plenty of elderly who don’t have driver’s licenses; some in my state don’t have birth certificates. Most disabled don’t have driver’s licenses. And then there are students who do have picture IDs but college IDs are not accepted. Clear your head and get on the right page with this. You are out right wrong in your assumption.

      • Bah

        “There are plenty of elderly who don’t have driver’s licenses”
        -There are plenty of people in every age group who don’t have drivers licenses
        “Some in my state don’t have birth certificates”
        -Some in every state don’t have birth certificates, no matter what their age, race, or gender.
        “Most disabled don’t have drivers licenses”
        -Most disabled probably take medicine and probably have state ID to get their medicine.
        -“There are students who do have picture IDs, but college IDs are not accepted”
        -Yes, because the majority of college student rely solely on their college ID and clearly are INCAPABLE of getting a state issued ID.
        Clear your head and get on board with thinking critically.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Are you really that stupid?

        You need ID to get anything, including welfare
        But somehow, they dont have an ID to vote?

        Sounds fishy

    • Cemetery Girl

      My grandmother does not have a valid photo ID. She’s 93, allowed her license to lapse this year (because honestly, she should not be driving), so if she wants to vote? My grandfather faithfully voted in every election until his death, but the last 10 years or so of his life he didn’t have a valid photo ID either. (After going blind he couldn’t renew his driver’s license.) This happens a lot with the elderly. They give up driving and tend to rely on an expired drivers license as their ID for doctors and banking.

      • Will

        THE GOP would like to take votes away from those evil takers the elderly. Social Security recipients are communists. And they alway vote democrat This is what conservatives think and this is why they block the elderly vote.

      • Bah

        Every study has indicated otherwise, senior citizens have been moving towards the Republican party the last two decades. I’m not aware of any opposing studies. Wouldn’t make sense to “block” their vote.
        Where do you come up with social security communist stuff? I haven’t seen any Republican ever try to take away SS and Medicare from seniors who have paid into it their whole life.

      • Masmani

        Social Security is the anemic stipend you get after paying into the system your entire life. You would get more money if you invested it privately. The government rips you off every time.

      • Bah

        Must be discrimination when you need and an ID to buy alcohol right? So many times in life it is common sense that you should prove who you are, why not in voting??? Hey Cemetery Girl, I have a proposition for you, why don’t you tell your grandmother to get a taxi or you can go ahead and get her one and pay for it, so she can get herself an ID. Seriously, ID is required for a lot of things in life, why shouldn’t you have one to vote???

      • Cemetery Girl

        Lol, work someplace that requires an ID for all alcohol sales and watch how someone that is clearly old enough to purchase alcohol flips out because they didn’t bring an ID in and can’t purchase a 6 pack. It does not go over well.

        I will not put my grandmother in a taxi. I drive her places. I help her in and out of the car. Depending on where she’s going and how her arthritis is doing that day I help her into the wheelchair and push her in it. A taxi driver won’t do that, nor should be expected to. If she wants to vote I will take her. I know she has no desire to get a state ID because what she had (while expired) meets her needs. She feels that living to or past 90 is ridiculous, that you end up with more pains and problems than a person ought to have, and is hoping The Lord will soon take her home, so spending the money on an ID when she’s hoping to leave soon isn’t going to happen. I had to just buy her a dryer because she considered it foolish to replace hers when (by her view) she has no business living long enough to get any real use out of it.

      • Bah

        You realize the point of showing ID for alcohol was to show you that we need ID for a lot of things. I’m not going to point out everything for you. Take a look around and remember every time you pull your ID out to prove who you are.

        Okay, so you stepped into this political debate and referenced your grandmother as if there is no way to get a current ID for her. What is your point in all if this? You’re just rambling about grandmothers thoughts on life and having a dryer…??? Has nothing to do with getting a proper photo ID to vote. Good job of taking care of your mother though. 🙂 so many people don’t take care of their parents in old age.

      • Cemetery Girl

        I am unfocused today. My intention was it isn’t just those people on welfare that this affects. This has an impact on more than just one type of person.

      • Bah

        Of course this doesn’t just affect people on welfare. Why is everyone acting like this doesn’t effect Republicans? I haven’t received a serious answer from anyone. I didn’t know all Republicans have their IDs in order and ready to vote.

      • Cemetery Girl

        I had commented on a comment about people on welfare would just have to go out and get an ID. It is actually something that does impact both parties. I have quite a few elderly relatives that could be prevented from voting that have voted consistently Republican. I may not share their view of which candidates should get the vote, but it doesn’t mean impede their ability to vote.

      • Bah

        Cemetery girl, a valid ID in my states costs 6 dollars and says no expiration. Are you trying to tell me 6 dollars is going to prevent your elderly relatives from voting ???

        The overall theme of this article is that it’s going to hurt Democrats since all Republicans are apparently so much wealthier than Democrats they can afford another 6 dollars. It’s just utter nonsense.

      • Cemetery Girl

        This prompted me to look up how much the state ID costs in my state and I was surprised by the price. (So thank you for that!) It is a little more expensive here, but much cheaper than I remember. I’m actually impressed that it’s 1/3 the cost now. Considering they’ve raised the price of copies of vital records, I’m honestly surprised by the lowering of cost.

      • Bah

        Well heck yea, that’s good news! Georgia was the first state to start voter ID laws. Hopefully all states will start to follow Georgia and issue them for free or become more efficient and offer them for almost nothing. This the way our founding fathers had in mind for our country. These things were implied. One state can look to another and say hey, that makes sense and it can work in our state too for our citizens. Enjoyed the dialogue! Hope this conversation turned into something positive for all of us.

      • Cemetery Girl

        I can honestly say that I don’t oppose needing to provide ID as long as it is inexpensive to obtain one. I do disagree with the expense of the vital records in my state, which can be a factor in obtaining an ID. (Yes, in theory everyone should have their birth certificate, if you changed your surname with marriage you need that too, but things happen. Fire, natural disaster, heck people have lost their vital records during a move. Some people, their parents never bothered to get a copy. While it is something everyone should have, it isn’t always the case.) I think proof of who you are should be very inexpensive. My bank doesn’t even charge me to replace my debit card, but having a government worker make a print out costs over $25? (I will admit that I am still irked about the process of having to replace my son’s birth certificate because the school no longer accepts the version that I got when he was born. He now has two.)

      • Bah

        I’m with you. Sometimes things can get ridiculous in life and we just have to embrace the suck, but simultaneously try make a positive change. My bank charges me :/. Oh well, I will keep them, they have done things for me without question.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        No excuse

      • Masmani

        You don’t have to drive to have a state ID. That’s a straw man argument.

    • Nemisis

      I am for getting a voter ID card. Well more to the point a proof of citizenship card. IF the GOP can agree to meet these conditions.

      The GOP agrees to fund the effort to send photographers and the necessary equipment and manpower needed to issue said ID to every citizen’s home, church, school, place of business, hospital, war zone or anywhere where a US citizen might be so that these agents can provide on the spot photo ID’s. I estimate that it should cost somewhere around $800 Billion to do this.
      It’s still cheaper than a war…

      • Jillz

        Exactly!

        Obviously every citizen should have to prove their identity in order to vote, (isn’t that done during the registration process though?) but if laws are being enacted that require citizens to face expense and unnecessary inconvenience in order to exercise their Constitutional right to vote, then those enacting the laws should have some responsibility in helping voters meet those requirements.

        I have yet to see any evidence that voter fraud is a huge issue in the USA. I’m not saying it’s not – though it does seem the greater frauds are being committed by the lawmakers, not the voters – just saying that I haven’t seen any poster/commenter claiming there is rampant voter fraud post any evidence backing up those claims.

      • Nemisis

        There is a National database of of persons who have or are suspected of voter fraud.

        It’s a small one and could fit one single density 3.5″ floppy.
        Sadly it does not include election fraud committed by corporations and persons who are election officials.
        Right David Siege of Westgate Resorts?

        (just a google clue…Catapiller, Koch….etc…)

      • Bah

        Voter fraud is extremely difficult to detect, and prove. All the votes would need to be cross referenced, and a suspicious vote would need digging deep into for just one vote. I’m not even sure if there is a solid definition of what and how someone may commit voter fraud?
        What we do see is there is potential for there to be a problem in the future with how messed up the registration is. So, I can’t see why we wouldn’t be proactive about preventing what could be a future issue.

      • Nemisis

        I’ve said it before. I am for a system of voting that requires a photo ID. Perhaps a single citizens card, maintained by the feds. That card would have your voter registration, your drivers license, fishing license…basically your license to everything.
        Here is the conditions I would accept that card.
        The federal government maintains it, make it a capitol crime to even suggest that it be privatized.
        The GOP agree to fund it. The fed comes to you with the necessary people and equipment to create the card. That includes the ability to research your eligibility should you not have the required documentation such as a birth certificate.
        States would be responsible for for their share.
        Any records keeping function that has been privatized such as state health department records keeping be returned to the state. IE. issuing of birth certificate records. Right Illinois?
        Maybe them birth certs shouldn’t be costing $35 bucks a copy.

    • Steve Brains

      It has to be a minutely ‘proper and correct” ID. A married woman in Texas can’t vote if her license has her maiden name on it.. even if she has the marriage certificate dated three days ago.. EVEN IF SHE IF A FEDERAL JUDGE!!!

      • Bah

        You mean she uses a provisional ballot and signs an affidavit? Nice try buddy.

      • Steve Brains

        NO!!! her vote is NOT guaranteed to be counted! She doesn’t get a provisional ballot without a proper ID in Texas.

      • Bah

        For some reason my reply keeps getting deleted. I wonder why? A provision ballot is to ensure the eligibility of the voter. Yes you can get a a provisional ballot in Texas without an ID. I tried posting proof from several sites from the state of Texas. Maybe that’s why it keeps getting deleted? When will you stop making crap up? Take a look for yourself so you quit spewing soneone else’s lies.

      • Big Goober

        They keep getting deleted because the leftists that run this site, like all fascists, are petrified of an honest and open discussion!

      • Bah

        Take a look at the top article. Not one will address the fact that voter IDs would fix the issue they’re claiming.

      • Steve Brains

        MAY BEEE!!!!

        It’s because you ARE a liar!

      • Bah

        Care to prove that?

      • Steve Brains

        IN!!!

      • Steve Brains

        SPADES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Steve Brains

        KINDAWANNA UNpROVE your un anal ‘proof?

      • Steve Brains

        ALready did.

      • Bah

        Intellectual coward also.

      • Steve Brains

        yeah!!!

      • Steve Brains

        But you still owe the ENTIRE BLOG PROOF of you FRAUD.

      • Steve Brains

        YOu have real trouble with the truth don’t you?

        lemme say it again:

        “The law flagged a Texas district judge, two state senators, and Abbott himself as potential illegitimate voters, underscoring the room for error.”

      • Steve Brains

        “Attorney General Greg Abbott argues this new obstacle is needed to stop supposedly rampant voter fraud, though a Dallas News investigation could only dig up four cases of voter irregularity since 2004 that could have been stopped by the voter ID law.
        ——-
        The law flagged a Texas district judge, two state senators, and Abbott himself as potential illegitimate voters, underscoring the room for error.
        ——-
        Other states with voter ID requirements are seeing similar effects. In Virginia, provisional ballots spiked during this year’s high profile gubernatorial election, and more than 60 percent of people lacking ID ultimately had their votes discarded.

      • Steve Brains

        BEcause you are a lying rectum. or is the technical term ANUS.

      • Bah

        Once again, coward.

      • Steve Brains

        CAn’t even answer whether you are a butthole or a shi*tube.

      • Steve Brains

        SHOVE THIS into your honesty slot LIAR:

        IF THIS IS NOT VOTER SUPPRESSION, THEN WHAT IS?

        :Even with a paltry 6 percent turnout, thousands of Texans had to sign affidavits or use provisional ballots during November’s election, the first under the state’s new voter ID law. The Dallas News reports that the number of provisional ballots more than doubled in most of the state’s largest counties since the last comparable election in 2011.

        The law requires that if voters cannot show a government-issued photo ID at the polls, or if the name or address on the ID do not sufficiently match voter registration forms, they cannot cast a regular ballot. Thanks to a last-minute amendment from state senator Wendy Davis (D), people whose IDs are “substantially similar” but not exactly identical to their voter registration information were allowed to sign affidavits. In Dallas County, the state’s second-most populated counties, one in seven voters had to sign affidavits because of name differences.

        In the ten largest counties in the state, voters cast 1,356 provisional ballots, though not all were related to ID issues. More than half of these (704) came from Harris County, the largest in the state and one of the most ethnically diverse regions in the nation.

        Excluded from this data are the people who did not even bother to try their luck at the polls because they had already been denied ID. Voting rights organizations estimate that one in ten registered voters in Texas lack the appropriate ID. Though Texas now offers a free voter ID to people who don’t have a driver’s license or other identification, many, including a former state Speaker of the House, have reported being denied the ID multiple times.

        All in all, just 41 out of 1.4 million people eligible for the free voter ID had received one as of mid-October.”

        THAT MEANS THAT ONE MILLION, THREE HUNDRED NIETY-NINE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED FIFTY-NINE+ have been DENIED their vote in Texas.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        A simple fix, do the paper work long before voting time.
        Lazy ass….

      • Steve Brains

        A hahaha! and Texas GIVES that time? OU FUCK!!!!!! And WHITE GUYS get EXTRA TIME?

      • Steve Brains

        But Perry and Abbott have made sure the forms are in short supply. Which they say can’t be helped.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Aw so were back to conspiracy theories….

      • Steve Brains

        hey, THEY signed and administered a law created by ALEC for the expressed purpose of limiting the minority vote. They are PROUD of voter discrimination in Texas.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        That’s because illegals are not suppose to vote.
        Try reading the constitution.

      • Steve Brains

        Dumbass? immigration REFORM would MAKE them LEGAL!!! Try reading and UNDERSTANDING what is typed.

  • Ingersollman

    Read “The 15% Solution”. Then all of the apparent lunacy of the rightwingnutjobs makes sense.

    • Masmani

      What book explains the lack of common sense and basic logic in leftists?

  • tesla013

    Let me see if I can get this straight…
    Voting is an all important right for everyone, citizen or not. Let’s face it, liberals would be bringing folks in by the boat load offering them a slice of the taxpayer pie to vote in American elections. However, having to stand in line to do so is an excuse to blame someone else for stealing one’s rights? 14 million people in Florida BUT, we have to flip the whole system for 200,000 who, basically gave their right voluntarily, because they are either too lazy, too selfish or, very piss poor at their own time management?

    • Stephen Barlow

      You ignored the point. Rich RED precincts have twice the equipment, half the populations and more time. You are too biased to consider wages lost and transportation issues.

      • tesla013

        I am a Native Floridian. I work a part time min. wage job. I have not owned a car in more than a decade. Just climbed out of a homeless mission two weeks ago. I have never missed an election. You’re right. I am far too biased….

      • Seriously

        don’t forget that you built, by hand, the log cabin you were born in.

      • Steve Brains

        I ACTUALLY slammed logs together in Arcadia, FL….
        BIITCH!!!!!!!!

      • Steve Brains

        Congrats! Stay with it man. It took Me 4 years to get off the streets, but life it finally good. It took a geographical change so I wasn’t stomping in the old shit, but Colorado isn’t that cold INSIDE!!!

      • Michael Rocker

        You just climbed out of a homeless mission two weeks ago? Where do you live now that you can survive on a minimum wage PT job? Must be nice to be able to get on line and try to make people believe your BS.

      • tesla013

        Gas City, Indiana. I share expenses with a room mate. I have been registered NPA for 30+ years. And, it wasn’t a log cabin. It was a two room bungalow on Roberts Ave. in Tallahassee…. I didn’t build it though.

      • Richard Mcgee

        Minimum wage just climbed out of a homeless mission you must be one of those good voting Republicans

      • Boo Hoo

        And you vote Republican? This is taking masochism to the furthest extreme. Look, if you hate yourself that much, try a self-flogging device. Don’t take the rest of the state down with you.

      • Big Goober

        Yeah, because leftist, wealth redistribution policies have worked so well in Detoilet.

      • Boo Hoo

        Can you provide examples of how someone used wealth distribution techniques in Detroit that had a direct, negative effect on the city? Or, are you just flappin’ your gums?

      • Big Goober

        I hope you’ve enjoyed your 60 year nap. Go back to sleep and let President Obola steal some more.

      • Boo Hoo

        Oh, I see. Generalizations are proof. Gotcha.

      • Larry Ham

        Wait a minute, I thought RED precincts were full of dumb redneck Republicans at the bottom of the income scale, now you’re saying they’re rich?

      • Stephen Barlow

        Doesn’t change REALITY! Dumb or redneck or not.

      • Larry Ham

        I’m just trying to figure out the latest liberal “reality” Stephen Barlow. First I’m told that rich professionals are Democrats because they’re so intelligent, but now I’m reading something on ForwardProgressive that says the opposite, that these rich people are Republicans.

        Oh wait I get it, “good” rich people are Democrats and the “evil” rich are Republicans…glad we got that straightened out.

      • Big Goober

        Stephen Barlow or Steve Brains is just one of the OFA supporting, possibly paid by the post hacks attempting to obfuscate with gibberish and childish insults. He has no argument, can’t formulate anything other than a twitter like 140 character or less gibberish and should be avoided.

      • Steve Brains

        Republicans dupes are now using yet another Democratic truth point to lie to their viewers about Democrats.

      • Steve Brains

        We just keep feeding you legalistic argle-bargle. To quote Scalia.

      • Steve Brains

        How many BLACK districts were LOST in the 2010 gerrymandering and how many WHITE ones specially carved out to replace them?

        Not just in North Carolina , Alabama and Florida, but nationwide.

        More than 30 of one and 28 of the other?

      • Stephen Barlow

        Reality has been chewing your ass past the bone since Jeb Bush threw the 200 election for his brother and the Supreme Buffoons HELPED HIM!!!

      • Larry Ham

        Actually the polls show that reality is chewing your ass. Republicans will gain seats in the House and quite possibly take over the Senate; meanwhile Obama’s poll numbers are plummeting. Have fun being the minority party for the foreseeable future.

        My ass is feeling pretty good right now aahahahaha

      • Stephen Barlow

        And polls are almost never conducted @ night, so their is ALMOST a poor AND Republican counter bias.

        But those NOT polled, the people who WORK for a living… How many of them are going to STAND for aNOTHER 2 (orSIX) years of REDs Ruling by Obstructionism?

        YOu will see what you Saw in Mississippi. Democrats coming out of the woodwork like the roaches Reds tell each other we are…

        We’re coming like ZOMBIES FOR YOUUUUUUU!

      • Steve Brains

        NI!!!o!!!!!!!!!!! ANTI BLACK
        by POINT ZERO two five….
        and 49 POINT 75;;;;;;;;

      • Larry Ham

        Wha?

      • Steve Brains

        Onkity oink oink oink oink!!!

    • Nemisis

      Ever been disenfranchised by Florida law?
      I have. They misspelled my name on the roll call list.
      Didn’t match my Passport, my Florida ID, My Florida State Drivers License, my DOD ID, nor my Social Security Card.
      That’s also the last time I registered as a Republican.

      • Steve Brains

        I am SURE that the Scott Crew mangled all the names they could, just for that reason.

      • Nemisis

        This was pre-scott but I’m sure it happens a lot.
        IMO voter fraud occurs fore frequently against voters than by voters.

      • Steve Brains

        VERY TRUE.

      • Steve Brains

        FRIGmiaLIGdala!

      • Steve Brains

        It was front page news in 2012. Also, 250,000 Republican contracted ‘get out the vote’ registrations were literally dumpstered in 7 states, most significantly Florida.

        By a Republican owned company.
        I never did hear the results of the plea bargains or trials for any of the RED PERPS.

      • Nemisis

        I only know of a rumored plea but nothing concrete so it’s not worth mentioning beyond this. That was for an Ohio case.

      • Steve Brains

        The POINT IS that the whole horrific PLANNED VOTER FRAUD of 1/4 MILLION minority voters was hushed up, covered up, and back burnered, unlike the imaginary voter fraud that has ONLY been charged 87 times in the last DECADE by citizens.

        THIS should have been a FEDERALLY prosecuted, front page trial with Congressional Hearings by Issa et al. but it was buried.

      • Nemisis

        13 Sep 2013: “Ohio GOP Official: 270 Cases of Voter ‘Fraud or Irregularity’ in 2012, ‘Zero Cases of Suppression”

        “To date, 135 cases have been referred to law enforcement for further investigation and possible prosecution. This includes 20 individuals Secretary Husted will refer to the Attorney General today who are registered to vote in Ohio and another state, and who appear to have cast ballots in each this past November. These cases were identified as a
        result of Ohio’s voluntary involvement in the Interstate Crosscheck Program – a consortium of 22 states seeking to improve overall election integrity.”~ Media ITE

        12 Apr 2013 “Sister Marguerite Kloos, 2 Others, Indicted For Voter Fraud In Ohio ”

        “After state prosecutors embarked on a hunt to track down individuals suspected of voter fraud, an investigation into 19 possible cases is underway in Ohio.

        This week, Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters announced that he is pursuing illegal voting charges against three individuals indicted by a grand jury, one of whom is 54-year-old nun Marguerite Kloos.
        According to the Cincinnati Enquirer, Sister Kloos told investigators that she filled out an absentee ballot for another nun who died a month before last year’s presidential election. Kloos, who stepped down as Dean of the Division of Arts and Humanities at the College of Mount St. Joseph last week, faces a sentence of up to 18 months in prison if convicted.

        A 75-year-old widower faces the same sentence. Russell Glassop is accused of filling out an absentee ballot for his wife, who died before the November election.

        “Both of those are very sad cases,” Tim Burke of the Hamilton County Board of Elections told ABC affiliate
        WCPO. “There’s no doubt that these individuals had the mistaken belief that they could honor their late loved one by voting for them the way they would have voted, or at least the way they believed they would have voted. But you can’t do that. It’s just wrong.”

        The third individual accused of voter fraud in Ohio is Melowese Richardson, a 58-year-old poll worker from Cincinnati. She faces eight counts of illegal voting. One of those counts charges her of voting two times in
        the 2012 presidential election — once in person and once through absentee ballot.

        Richardson told WCPO last month that she had voted twice because she had been “afraid her absentee ballot would not be counted in time.”

        “There’s absolutely no intent on my part to commit voter fraud,” she said.

        Prosecutors also say Richardson voted on behalf of her family members on numerous occasions. However, the long-time poll worker insists that she had believed all those votes to be legal. She faces up to 12 years in prison if convicted. “~ Huffington Post

        Why these two stories? They detail cases in just Ohio of actual voter fraud and to an extend the motivations behind a few.

        I have contended that if there is even one case of voter fraud then it is one case too many.

        Here is one that you may find extremely amusing.

        “GOP Furious That Arkansas’ Republican AG Candidate Removed From Voting Rolls After Confirmation of Multi-State Registration, Voting”

        Google that and be warned it is a blog so take it with a grain of salt. The actual media coverage is more than the sum of it’s context.

        Meaning She has voter registrations in multiple places. Many people who move also have the same multiple registrations. There is no way to remove oneself from voting rolls that I am aware of.

        On the other hand it is suggested that in 2008 she exercised a vote in AK after she had registered in DC.

        The former not being voter fraud the latter being voter fraud.

        I realize that there is a difference between voter committed fraud, and election officials fraud.
        What we are talking about is the fraud by officials fraud.

        It is very hard to find articles that pertain strictly to that narrow a field of inquiry.
        In one such attempt to eliminate fraud by voter and focus only on fraud by election official I was given this result.

        05 Feb 2012~ NPR
        “Indiana’s Top Election Official Convicted of Voter Fraud”

        “White, a Republican, was accused of lying about his home address on voter registration forms in order to continue receiving a stipend for serving on his town’s council. To comply with state law requiring the removal of convicted felons from office, Gov. Mitch Daniels, a fellow Republican, appointed White’s deputy as an interim replacement.

        The irony is that White has been an outspoken defender of controversial voter identification laws, which are purportedly aimed at stamping out
        the kind of fraud he was found guilty of committing.”

        As to the prosecution, I agree although there is argument of jurisdiction of Federal v State in many of the cases of election fraud.

        What Scott did in Florida is not even original as it is exactly what J.Bush did when his Brother was running for office in 2000. That should be prosecuted the question is by who? I think the feds can not bring the case without some sort of state sovereignty issue.
        (I will differ to a lawyer on that.)

        So what remains is a GOP controlled prosecution of GOP crimes. Tough call.

        G’day.

      • Steve Brains

        It’s SAD how 270 possible was investigated and whittled down to THREE… and this was the Secretary of State who a Federal Court said was rigging the election by restricting early voting and polling hours in only poor and minority precincts while expanding it in rural and rich WHITE districts.

        He was also the guy who had twice as many voting machines for half as many people in White precincts.

        This was the guy who WROTE the voter suppression laws for the Ohio legislature and had them revoked by the Ohio Supreme court…

        What Scott Did in 2012 was purge the voter rolls, and purposely mangled the spellings to INCREASE the number of Democratic voters. I think the end tally was 60,000 Dems to 120 Reds. but fact check that as i am relying on memory.

      • Nemisis

        Check that please, Scott is a republican, I don’t think he would want to increase the Dem voter base. Although, that would be a fresh twist. I’m just glad I left that state in 2007.
        20/20 being perfect sight when looking back I could have saved 200k on my current house bought in Jan of 07 had I just waited a few months.

      • Steve Brains

        The point is HE LIED from the get go and he not only ORDERED the purges, a week before the last registration day (so the letter arrived too late on purpose, he fought the court decision that ended it.

      • Nemisis

        Okay. I am all for catapulting his ass into the Atlantic.

      • Steve Brains

        With a Trebuchet!!

      • Steve Brains

        We all have deals we might have made. I shorted the EURO at e1.65. I made 8,000 contracts each a nickel apart. 1.60 down to 1.25. Only the last one hitched. The rest retired Me before Obama saved the world with the stimulus that REDS love to lie about.

        The point is, you ONLY need on great one or a few good ones.

      • Steve Brains

        I am sorry. I was refering to OHIO SoS Husted.

      • Larry Ham

        I’ll bet the Koch Brothers were behind that conspiracy Nemisis…or maybe Rush, Beck, FOX, Haliburton.

      • Steve Brains

        Why wold they invest almost a BILLION DOLLARS in an election if their “fix” weren’t in?

        Remember Karl Rove’s face when Obama didn’t get the Kerry Treatment in Ohio?

      • Larry Ham

        For the same reason George Soros invests a billion dollars in an election.

      • Steve Brains

        But George is NOT ASHAMED of his money and delares every penny on the tax forms.
        The idols you Kochsuck hide and launder most of their 1/5 BILLION per election, preferring to behave like mobsters because they KNOW how criminal their actions are.

      • Larry Ham

        AAAHAHAHAHAHA Hey everyone get a load of this Steve “Brains” guy! He thinks George Soros declares every penny on his tax forms! AAAJAHAHAHHAHA right! And the check is in the mail.

        This is the guy who brought down the bank of england by devaluing the pound, he’s behind the dirty, secretive investigations into his political enemies, he funds move on dot org and a bunch of other political organizations.

        “Declares every penny” aaaahahahahhahahahhaa that’s a good one!

      • Steve Brains

        hey, the ham burglar is back. If you have EVIDENCE, produce it or STFU.

      • Larry Ham

        Well “Brains” a simple search shows:

        He really did bring down BOE:
        http://en.wikipedia dot org/wiki/George_Soros

        He really does fund dangerous extremist groups:
        http://en.wikipedia dot org/wiki/George_Soros

        He really funds left wing groups that used the IRS to harass political enemies:
        http://sorosfiles dot com/soros/2013/05/soross-hand-in-the-irs-scandal.html

        Jeesh, you’d think someone calling himself “Brains” would be smart enough to know this aaaaahahahhaha

      • Steve Brains

        Thanks I’ll double check you work and see if it was authored by BreitFart.

      • Bah

        Petulant loser.

      • Steve Brains

        Douche juice’s cousin Bah.. how nice of you to join us for intelligent banter. Did your Mommy find the rental counter @ the Discovery Store in the mall? I see you have a special helmet on today. Did you like the ride on the Short bus? Did the wheels go round and round?

      • Big Goober

        Steve No Brains doesn’t like it when you use something called “facts”. He’s heard of them but being a leftist he’s never had occasion to actually use them.

      • Steve Brains

        Oops, that was supposed to be ONE QUARTER BILLION DOLLARS below. That is what was NOT laundered like the $15 million into California in 2012 or the untold 10’s of millions through superPACS, shell corporations and as gifts through employees and friends to dodge and evade taxes and public SHAME!

      • Steve Brains

        Florida evaporated voter registrations for how many 10’s of 1000’s?

        50-60,000? Or was the final tally of RACIALLY SELECTED voter trashing more like 75-80,000?

    • Alan Porcella

      200,000 people who have the right to vote but do not vote because they can’t or won’t stand in line for 10 to 12 hours is enough people to change the outcome of an election, and Republicans know it. It doesn’t matter how many people are voting in total, it is how many are kept from voting that changes the outcome of elections. All you have to do is get a brain transplant so you are bright enough to look at how close elections are. Out of millions of votes, usually just a few thousand votes separate the winner from the loser

      Flipping the system is what your party is doing to make sure more people who lean democrat can’t, or don’t have the time to vote. I wonder how you would feel if Democrats were passing laws making lines for Republicans to vote longer, with less voting booths, shorter hours etc.. I doubt you would be calling your fellow Republicans lazy, you would probably be calling Democrats unamerican, which is exactly what the Republican party proves themselves to be every day.

      • Bah

        So you’re assuming republicans want to and don’t mind standing in line for 10 to 12 hours? I didn’t know that was a Republican thing to do. Republicans must always pick the long lines at the grocery store.
        I guess Republicans don’t go to early voting either? They must always think “hell no!” I only do things later than earlier!
        I guess Republicans have so much free time to vote. They must not have any other obligations, probably just sit around drinking beer and shooting guns all day huh?
        I guess all you have to do is get a brains transplant to realize you didn’t make any points but just a load of bullshit false assumptions. I think your bow tie is too tight, must be cutting off circulation and having you drag your knuckles around all day.

      • Steve Brains

        Most of their wives do. but now that a black man is not on the National ballot, expect serious REDS defections from the KKKers.

      • Bah

        Steve Brains, you are a coward. Stay behind your computer screen making these false assumptions and claims, because if you were to pull this lying bullshit in person to myself. I would have you spitting your teeth out for the next couple of weeks.

      • Steve Brains

        PROVE I made a false claim. FACT check me Bahole?

      • Bah

        Evidence for a claim relies on the individual who stated it. You are the same as a person saying, prove to me there isn’t a god.

      • Steve Brains

        Nope! It Doesn’t IN YOUR BOOK. At least the ones you plagiarize. BEcause you NEVER give a source for your droppings. Allen is getting tired of putting down paper when you crawl into his cage.
        YOu EXIST. NO GOS would EVER do that to his other creations.!!!

      • Steve Brains

        24/7 in your face while I’m banging your MOM. Even on Easter.

      • Steve Brains

        You must feel SO IMPOTENT right now.
        IMPOTENT to LIE, without getting caught an exposed like PeeWee Herrmann.
        IMPOTENT to vindicate your self because you LIED.
        IMPOTENT to find ANY proof to support your LIES…
        IMPOTENT because you AMDE UP you LIES and there IS no evidence to support your IMPOTANCE!!!!

        Know WOMDER all you can do it hide behind you computer and MAKE BUT MACHO AGGRESSIVE ROID RAGE THREATS you wouldn’t be able to keep your word on.

        I am right here and I will be 24/7 so make you move mouthboi.

        Opps, Correction. I will be @ your Mom’s spreading her wider that you did when you were born. So you can just go BEAT YOUR MAD OFF to THAT picture.

        Maybe Goobeturd will let you be his oilet aper today Bah.. I mean Boi!

      • Bah

        Guy your laughable. You see I didn’t start any of this childish behavior, you did. We were simply having a discussion and you started slandering me as an individual when you failed to provide any coherent thought or evidence to my rebuttal. You want to be childish, I will be more childish and I will win. A threat I won’t able to keep my word? Guy I fight for sport, what in the world makes you think I wont?

      • Steve Brains

        HI DoucheJuice. The logic is faultless. Refute it if it is NOT!

        This is a DEBATE page. If you find a flaw, you prove a case against it. If you can’t give a source you are debunked. if you REFUSE to give a source you are debunked.

      • Steve Brains

        Where and when was that? Give Me a cite on a page. A place and a time.

      • Steve Brains

        I am proud of you Short bus people with the special helmets!!! it’s NICE for you to be childlish ANDWIN!!!!

      • Big Goober

        Steve No Brains is a laughable idiot. Have you seen the gutter scum he’s been sending? Guys like him talk tough on the internet and hide behind a keyboard. My guess is he’s a brain damaged, income challenged drug abuser with a sad life. He has a hard time spelling, using punctuation and forming correct sentence syntax. His feeble attempts at insult are sophomoric at best. He doesn’t have enough command of the English language to attempt to formulate an argument so he stoops to gutter bile in a vain attempt to insult. Maybe we should have more sympathy than contempt because the bitter pablum he sends me is as laughably pathetic at he is.I really do feel sorry for someone with such pitiful argumentative skills that he has to attempt to insult with boring, vile insults that he thinks are effective. The venom he spews is indicative of a frustrated mind with a
        disappointing, fruitless, lonely life.

      • Bah

        There’s no way any of these 200,000 people could have been Republican.

      • Steve Brains

        SHEEOLICANS!!!!!!!!!!!! TAKING IT

        EWWIE EWISSSSSSSSSSSSSS Y+EWUE!

      • Masmani

        Where has anyone ever stood in line for 10-12 hours for an ID.?So you’re telling me democrats are too stupid, weak minded, weak willed and so damn indigent they can’t afford and ID. Why are you so judgmental about Democrats? Get real, You’re damn right elections are close. That’s why we have to stop all the multiple voters like Georgia Democrat Stacey Abrams or Connecticut Rep. Christina Ayala and all those voting for the dead or all the illegals in Florida. Are you saying my vote isn’t worth protecting? I don’t have a right to protect my vote against being diluted by those who flaunt voting laws? Everyone should have to have an ID to vote. Even if the state pays for it.

      • Mort

        requiring ID to vote..IS A POLL TAX

      • Big Goober

        Not if it’s free, Mort!

      • Michael Rocker

        In some states it costs anywhere from $5- $20 to get a non drivers ID and the only place you can get it is at the DMV. So yes you can call it a POLL TAX

      • Big Goober

        Pennsylvania offered it for free. President Obola’s injustice dept. still sued them.

      • Steve Brains

        Read Thom Cornhles law

      • Steve Brains

        And UHHH…PTOOF?

      • Michael Rocker

        PA charges $10 for a non DL ID.

      • Steve Brains

        Depriving resident nuns in a convent the right to vote in the lobby of their home was just to much puke on the Republican shoes of that criminal racist Corbett for any court to stomach.

      • Steve Brains

        NO!!!! it’s a WISDOM tax. WHITE whizzzzzzzzzzzzz…

      • Big Goober

        So you would support an ID law if ID were free?

      • Michael Rocker

        No Mr Goober I do not. All i was saying is that most states charge to get a none DL ID. I have been voting since 1974 and not once did i ever have to show ID. The polling place has your information.

      • Steve Brains

        They also charge for DL’s.

      • Michael Rocker

        Of course they do. Driving is a privilege not a right. Voting is a right and no one should have to pay for it.

      • Steve Brains

        Agreed, but a DL is a legal ID for voter registration.

      • Michael Rocker

        I never said it wasn’t. The NON DL is a state government issued ID car which looks just like a DL the difference is the NON DL does not allow you to drive. The only other thing they have in common is the number they assign to it. If you get a DL they will use the same number from the NON DL ID because it is in the system. I just found out that as of this year the state of North Carolina is no longer charging a fee for a NON DL ID

      • Steve Brains

        I think that was a court order or the Voter Suppression law would be overturned. I think the state could afford the 10 cents for the application, the 50 cents for the photo and lamination and the 40 cents for the clerk’s time and benefits.

      • Steve Brains

        AND require a signature, just like a bank does to get into a safe deposit box.

      • Steve Brains

        I support a National Driver’s License/Passport card that doubles as a Soc Sec ID. FREE and renewable by mail.

      • Big Goober

        Hey Stevie boy, you have an abundance of poorly planned solutions that don’t work for problems that don’t exist. We’ll call you when the girls choir needs a flux capacitor.

      • Steve Brains

        YOu want 50 separate sTATE voter ID’s. A National DL would not only solve that, but standardize driving in all 50 states PLUS simplify auto insurance for EVERYONE!!!

        I think the intelligent people in this blog would think you a fool and agree with me.

        But I would REALLY REALLY REALLY like to actually read a single solution you have that isn’t “an abundance of poorly planned solutions that don’t work for problems that don’t exist.”

        How would you know what problems exist. I mean do you have a headlamp on the hatrack you keep buried so deep in the depths of your bowels? Even if you did, what could you possibly see of the outside world?

        May you can ( LMAO) shed some light on this:
        How do you feed yourself when you never take your head out of your ass? Do you slip your hand up there to shove French Fries in your mouth? Does it really help to dip them in ketchup BEFORE being dragged through all that shit that surrounds your skull and permeates your world?

        A permanent head-up-the-asser like you literally has to EAT and BREATH shit. How do you watch Fox News and waste people’s time blogging nonsense, third grade insults and repeating propaganda and hate? You MUST have gotten a laptop and Big screen enema. Because to have swallowed them BEFORE you shoved your head up your turd tunnel would mean believing the unbeleivable!!!

        That you EVER had your skull out in the fresh air and seen anything other than your Fries, your shit, an occasional polyp, Limbaugh and Fox news…

        And for all the hallucinogens I enjoyed 20-30 years ago, I could NEVER imagine THAT!!!

        Allen? please leave this post in place. This Goober deserved every word I wrote and for the most part, the truth is NEVER hate speech. If you wanna improve you blog, then TAKE THE TRASH OUT! Don’t chase the thinkers away. Look what happened to the Republican Party when THEY did that in 1980?

      • Big Goober

        You a thinker? You can’t argue the facts and keep using petty insults. You repeatedly resound to my posts with comments about my family, as if that helps your cause. You have LOST the argument. Quit, go away and either have a decent conversation and stop using childish, sophomoric insults or stop responding to my posts.

      • Steve Brains

        I think of insults for My buddy Gooberturd all the time….

      • Steve Brains

        Aren’t your family mostly inbred? you saying tight here and now that you family is NOT related to itself?

      • Steve Brains

        I promise not to Miss a flaming, stinking cousin humping one.

      • Steve Brains

        It WAS $2 in Colorado, but that was before the REDS imploded the economy and then obstructed and sandbagged the Nation to keep Obama from being remembered as the Roosevelts, Lincoln, Jefferson and Washington were.

      • Steve Brains

        There’s still the lost wages, transportation costs and the time stolen from citizen for you REDS to disenfranchise female, black and minority voters. That is an expense that REDS should be reimbursed by from the Governor’s and Legislators PAY.

      • Big Goober

        If we’re all created equal then isn’t is true we should all sacrifice equally. I lose time off from work, transportation costs and don’t forget the confiscatory taxes I pay. So your people can sit on around the house and pay for food, pot, beer and topless dancers with an EBT card I provide. That’s fair.

      • Steve Brains

        Yep, let’s tax the rich until they go on food stamps!!
        Let’s pay CEO’s minimum wage with ZERO benefits.
        Let’s eliminate ALL tax deductions and have a single rate FLAT tax.
        SPLIT into income and purchasing. Variable every 2 years and make the budget a MUST PASS or no congressional pay by october of the first term of Congress, that covers the first 8 months of the next Congress so they have time to refigure the taxes we NEED to pay our last congresses bills.

        Really, confiscate HOW MUCH on WHAT?

        Me? A racist and a bigot and YOU SAY ARE TALKING ABOUT “YOU PEOPLE!!!!”???????

        Wow did you just shove your head past you colon and into the intestine. Chunky in there ain’t it?

      • Big Goober

        Why don’t you start with all the businesses that back Presindent Obola?

      • Steve Brains

        We were looking for an honest solution, but since honesty is alien to your DNA (which seems to missing MORE THAN one set of chromosomes…) I guess your stain on the sheets makes some kind of inbred mutant sense. To a birth defect!!!

      • Steve Brains

        Really, confiscate HOW MUCH on WHAT?

      • Steve Brains

        WHERE is it 100% FREE. That means obtaining the required documentation for historical archives WITHOUT COST of lost ages or actual CASH investment for the RIGHT TO VOTE.

      • Steve Brains

        Not IF they are FREE.

        But NOT making ID’s universally avaiiable IS

      • Steve Brains

        WHEN and WHERE has a REDwife spent more than an an hour to vote>???????

      • Masmani

        Your nomenclature leaves a bit to be desired. Did your entire education consist of 140 characters or less?

      • Steve Brains

        not daily. As for YOUR desires…. EWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

      • Steve Brains

        Eat penis scabs from AIDS vics.

      • Big Goober

        Amazing how you call yourself a thinker and then post this kind of rubbish. You can’t even formulate any thing more than a 5th grade level try at venom. You also repeatedly respond to the same. You can post all the ugly, nasty filth you like you like but your frustration is obvious. Good luck with that.

      • jchastn

        mature much?

      • Steve Brains

        Since reading is your Father’s forte between tricks…

      • Steve Brains

        Jacksonville, Florida! Cleveland, Ohio!

      • Steve Brains

        Alan? THose disfucked VOTERS are almost 12 million, or 7-10 PERCENT!!!!!!!

      • jchastn

        Elections are held on weekdays when working folks work. If you are lucky, your local polling station is open early enough so you can take a few minutes on your way to work to vote. Working people don’t HAVE 10 hours to stand in line to vote. The less money you make, the less likely you will have the opportunity to vote.
        Lets have an election holiday or 2 per year and require all federal, state, and local election to happen on those days. Schools, businesses CLOSED. Absentee ballots provided to on duty police, doctors and nurses, etc…

    • Kelly

      You are an idiot. “Bring in voters by the boatload to steal a slice of the American pie”? My God man, how can you be so ignorant? The discussion is about difficulties that American Citizens trying to exercise their constitutional right to vote in their own communities are experiencing. In particular, efforts made by those who would attempt to make it more difficult for them to vote at all.
      Try opening that tiny, angry, misinformed mind of yours.

      • Steve Brains

        Besides, all REDS know that only by KEEPING illegals from BECOMING legal, can they hang on to 47% of the population.

        BEsides, Perry sent out the Texas national Guard to insure their safe passage through the Federal ICE Agents wandering the Texas desert looking for “Boat People!”

        LMAHO!

    • Mort

      Early voting is “flipping the whole system”? NO…it’s just allowing for Early voting. Another Right Wing side-step/exaggeration/straw man arguement you’ve tried to pull there.

      • Steve Brains

        Then have 100% DAY OFF for elections.
        paid vacation days to VOTE!!!!!!

        Just like EGYPT and AFGHANISTAN.

    • Steve Brains

      Well…………
      if the ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND in FLORIDA would HAVE BEEEN ALLOWED to vote…………………..

      The REDS in SCOTUS would NOT be CRIMINALS.

  • Ray Young

    The conservative think-tank makes these efforts because they believe that the lesser-informed of the liberals are inherently lazy. “If we make it hard for them, the losers will stay home!” The thing that I find unsettling is that most of the writers arguing against the conservative strategy seem to agree on that point. So maybe the real problem is that those of us who truly care and do our homework on this stuff aren’t doing enough to educate and motivate the people being targeted in these vote-rigging efforts.

    • Stephen Barlow

      Volunteer to get voters out.

    • Bah

      Once again, I guess conservatives don’t go to early voting????

      • Steve Brains

        I post My vote on day ONE!

  • Bah

    How does early voting only affect liberals? I guess conservatives don’t go to early voting? I’m not seeing any connection.

    • Big Goober

      Don’t you get it , Bah? Conservatives have their butlers and chauffeurs cast their votes for them and then deny those same employees time off to vote for themselves.

  • Nemisis

    There is a difference in requiring an ID to vote and changing the requirements to vote shortly before the election date.

    I am not against using a photo ID, if the state makes every effort available to everyone. If that means the state gets into a vehicle and goes down to the old folks home they do it. It’s really not that hard to do.

    The process described in this article is not the worse case.
    The worse case is if the district is re mapped with only a few days to renew your voter ID card. Right Tennessee…Florida…Alabama, Louisiana, Texas…etc..Makes them dumbacrates hop’n mad dohnit.

    • haggrr

      Every state mandates ‘provisional’ ballots. No one is being denied the right to vote no matter what you’re being told.This is nothing more than the leftist trying to paint conservatism as something to run from!

  • Sondra Rene Eisenman

    hey- they want to limit my voting time- then I think we should limit their bench time.

    • Bah

      Yep, put time limits on them, and give congress term limits. Wait, wasn’t this just proposed by many conservatives? *GASP*

      • Bah

        No BAH! Say it ain’t so!

      • gbrbr

        No, term limits were not discussed by many Republicans. There was only one and he didn’t win the primary.

      • Bah

        I’m not talking about RINOs. I’m talking about conservatives within the conservative community. Ask any educated conservative, not some retard, if they would support term limits, majority would say yes. I have the felling liberals would do the same.
        This is exactly why we have been trying to push real conservatives through the primaries and not blow hard republicans.

  • haggrr

    “It’s estimated that around 200k Florida voters didn’t vote due to ridiculously long lines.”Why is it necessary to use bogus, liberal biased, statistics to further your narrative? If this was so clear cut why resorted to that?

  • Big Goober

    It’s amazing to me how leftists, (stop calling yourselves liberals) like Allen Clifton are afraid of an honest debate. They won’t allow links to sites that don’t agree with their rhetoric and agenda. It’s like they know their argument is flawed and hate when someone shines a light on their total disregard of logic. Allen Clifton. Quit hiding and debate me!

  • Bah

    Soooo is the requirement to provide a birth certificate for a public school stopping children from being educated?