Ted Cruz Gets Asked What His Alternative to “Obamacare” is, Hilarity Quickly Ensues

cruz-cnnTed Cruz likes to use any microphone or television camera he’s presented with as a platform to bash the Affordable Care Act.  I honestly can’t recall the last interview I’ve seen him give, or speech he’s given, where he didn’t obsess about “repealing Obamacare.”

And while it’s easy to bash the healthcare law — or in the case of Ted Cruz, just blatantly lie about it — it’s a lot harder to name an alternative solution.  Which is probably why 3 1/2 years later, Republicans have yet to do just that.

Well, during an interview on CNN with Chris Cuomo, Ted Cruz was asked what his alternative to “Obamacare” was exactly:

CUOMO: What do you say to them, Senator?  When they say, “Please help me”, what is the fix that you offer them? I looked at the list of bills that you’ve sponsored.  There’s not one that offers a solution to the current problems with health care except to get rid of the existing law. Is that enough?

CRUZ:  Well, that’s the only solution that will work.  All of these Band-Aid fixes that the president is pushing, the congressional Democrats are pushing won’t fix the problem.  Every one of those bills, they have great titles, like “if you like your plan you can really, really, really keep them”, but if they were passed into law, it wouldn’t fix the problem for the 5 million people who have lost their health insurance, they wouldn’t get it back.

CUOMO:  You don’t think you have a responsibility as a U.S. senator to do better than that in terms of offering a solution for what to do next?

CRUZ: Well, I appreciate your trying to lecture me in the morning.  Thank you for that.

Cuomo: Not at all, Senator. I’m worried, the same as you.  Anybody who looks at the situation has worries.  Families need health insurance.

Cruz: Sir, if you’re worried, did you speak out for the five million people who’ve lost their health insurance?  Did you speak out…?

Cuomo: We’ve been covering it doggedly and I’m sure you watch the show. The problem is I don’t have the power to fix it. You do.  That’s what a U.S. Senator does.  You sponsor law.  You know this.  It’s not a lecture, it’s a concern.  I’m asking what are you going to do about it?

Cruz: Well, and I share that concern and have every day been working to highlight the millions of people who have lost their job because of Obamacare, the millions of people who have been forced into part-time work.  There are single moms, there are young people, Hispanics, African Americans, people struggling who are now on part-time work.  You can’t feed your kids with 29 hours a week. There’s over five million people who have lost their health insurance and the way to fix that is to stop this broken law.

First, I love how Ted Cruz never once offered an alternative outside of “repeal it,” claiming that’s the “only solution that will work.”  The closest thing to a “plan” he really offered during the whole interview was allowing people to buy insurance across state borders.  Yes, that’s really plausible.

Then I love how he seems unable to step away from the “5 million Americans” talking point, while completely ignoring the fact that millions of Americans were already denied insurance before the Affordable Care Act.

Oh, and people aren’t “losing” their health insurance.  These people who’ve had their plans cancelled are simply being forced to buy new insurance plans.  What, were many Americans not having their health insurance cancelled each year before “Obamacare?”

We also can’t forget the “millions” of people who have lost their job because of “Obamacare.”  Funny, the nearly 8 million private-sector jobs we’ve created since the healthcare law was passed would say otherwise.  His statement also has exactly zero evidence to support it.  It’s just another right-wing talking point.

Then he has the nerve to talk about people being forced into part-time employment being caused by the health care law?  Please.  That’s on big business and greedy corporations.  These companies were already gutting full-time positions long before “Obamacare.”  They’re just using the healthcare law as a convenient excuse to do what they were already planning on doing.

I absolutely love how he threw out the “young people, Hispanics and African Americans” line.  A blatant attempt to try to fear monger about the struggles of those who fall within the demographics Republicans usually lose come election time.

Cruz is nothing more than a robotic politician.  Everything he says seems like it was taken directly from flash cards that were prepared and written by the tea party.

And even after all his fear mongering, lies and propaganda—he still couldn’t offer a single alternative for the healthcare law he has spent nearly his entire time in the United States Senate opposing.

But when it’s all said and done, he can whine about “Obamacare” all he wants — Ted Cruz has absolutely no answers to fix the issues that have plagued our health care system for years.  And while the Affordable Care Act isn’t perfect, it’s at least a starting point to better health coverage for all Americans.

Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Bob H

    You just can’t fix stupid, not even with an Ivy League education or a made up name.
    Rafael Cruz is stupid, period.

    • John

      Well, you are right and Obamacare is stupid…can’t fix it, period.

      • jeff

        now how can you equate stupid and obamacare? obamacare is a thing..and it can be fixed…but you seem to be the type of person who doesn’t want to fix things…thererfore you must be a republican..and stupid…

      • Nathan Frigerio

        republican..and stupid…That’s redundant.

      • Bob H

        John, do you even know what Obamacare is?
        What do you think they are trying to fix? Could you explain your statement?
        I know I am a little late, but give me an explanation if you know what you were typing about.

  • sam

    Saying “millions arent losing their healthcare” is complete bs, people ARE losing their healthcare, the premiums have absolutely skyrocketed, 300% higher in some states, people who previously could afford it nolonger can. Therefore, yes, people most certainly are.

    • An Angry Scotsman

      You do realize that one of the stipulations to the AFA is the 20-80 rule, yes? Whatever premiums you pay for health insurance, the insurance companies are only allowed to put 20% of that to overhead. The other 80% does to nothing else but paying for healthcare when it is needed. People have actually been getting partial refunds in the mail for overpayments to their insurance companies. But the “Fair and Balanced” guys won’t report that. They’d report about the international warrant for Dick Cheney’s arrest sworn out by the country of Nigeria than report this fact (which is true, there is an international warrant for Cheney’s arrest.)

      • Cathryn Sykes

        Yep, I’ve gotten 80/20 paybacks. What an idea! That you should actually use at least 80% of the premium to pay for the customer’s health care! Sorry, Blue Cross CEO….you’ll have to wait a little longer for that 80 foot yacht.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        cat ,,,,,UUUU be so MEAN to all those “job creators” who hire indigents to wash and wax those yachts and lear jets,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, such a meannnnieeeeeeeeee

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        Actually, that figure is 85% for the large employer market. That is why insurers had to rebate $1.1 billion to the insured.

    • BigTBone

      So the president can force private businesses to do something?
      That’s big news to the nation. Perhaps next he’ll force the gas companies to lower prices to 99¢ a gallon?

      YAWN. Millions of people Every Year get cancellation notices, policy changes and dropped coverage.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        if Obama was able to get gas to a buck a gallon FOX “news” would cry about the poor execs at exxon/Texaco/etc who now are losing profits and OF COURSE cannot keep employees,,,, those all-American JOB CREATORS

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        *SNICKER* “Gas is down to $3.00/gal. Blame Obama.”

      • regressive rightwing trash

        yeahhhhh babeeeeeeeeeeeeee

      • regressive rightwing trash

        yeahhh babeeeeeeeeeeeeee

    • In the last year Medical Costs have increased an average of 1.5% and insurance averaged a 1% increase. The lowest increases in 50 years.

    • suburbancuurmudgeon

      uh, show me where premiums have skyrocketed. The average increase for the past 2 years was 4%.

    • regressive rightwing trash

      hey sam,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, losing a coverage(??) which is 55$ a month and has a deductible of 6600.00 and a MAXIMUM out-of-pocket paid by “insurance” companies and drops U as soon as U sneeze is what people are losing–

    • suburbancuurmudgeon

      No, they are losing their INSURANCE, but they have the opportunity to buy NEW insurance. And why weren’t you as concerned about the 50 million who had no insurance and, by extension, little or no health care. You really need to back up your claims with a few actual, verifiable figures instead of just FOX talking points.

  • popsbook

    Why not repeal the damn law? Why does he have to come up with an alternative plan, non of the other senator’s have offered another plan. Ted knows that until the Senate is controlled by Republicans no option will pass in Congress. Give him time, if and when the Republicans control both houses. Then they should come up with a better plan, not before.

    • If they can come up with a better plan, why wouldn’t the Democrats go for it? The Democrats took most of the GOP’s harebrained amendments the GOP wanted attached to the ACA; why wouldn’t they take a better overall plan?

    • Cathryn Sykes

      So, in essence: “You don’t get to see our solution until we put it into operation.”
      Wow. “You don’t get to see an blueprints or plans, just wait until the skyscraper is built.” “We’re not required to reveal what we’ll cut out until we have you on the operating table.” “We’re not going to tell you what we’ll pay you….just wait for your first pay check.” “Don’t worry about learning the play book or practicing. We’ll tell you the plan when we get out on the field.”
      You, pops, are an idiot.

      • Giray Kaya

        Cat and Pelosi read from the same book. “Pass the bill to find out what’s in it.”

      • regressive rightwing trash

        and small dicked regressive white trash GIRAY and smaller dicked ted cruz read fervently from the FOX “news” playbook titled ” CRY ALOT AND OBFUSCATE…..THATS OUR PLAN”

      • Giray Kaya

        You really aren’t helping your cause with that language.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        my CAUSE is making money ( self employed CHEF since 1989) playing basketball/surfing and lifting weights and sexing slim pretty BIG chested women ( actually WOMAN as I have a 5’6 133 lb DD cup girl named Katherine)
        ,,,,,,,,,,all other CAUSES simply entertain me: and based upon my approval in THAT prior comment my cause doth foment glee with others in this thread

      • Cathryn Sykes

        Well, you’ve made it pretty obvious that what you value has little to do with REALLY HUGE…..brains.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        hey stupid,,,if U read ALL of my posts U will see IM ON YOUR SIDE—do NOT get me started on you

      • john doe

        Intelligent people know that’s not what she meant. She meant we have to pass it to so Americans can see how it works. But silly Cons love to harp on semantics.

      • Giray Kaya

        What she “meant,” yes, I’ve heard that defense. Like how the president “meant” you could keep your plan (if it didn’t change one iota since March 2010)?

      • robingee

        If you have to choose a new plan, blame your employer. Health insurance comes out of your paycheck. Mine does. If I had to choose an ACA plan, same thing.

      • Giray Kaya

        You know a portion comes out of the company’s budget. If employer-based policies are the fruit of employer health insurance evil, the tree is federal controls limiting wage increases (yes, increases) during WW2.

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        Yeah, but those employers get to deduct the cost of the premiums and the employee doesn’t get taxed on the value of the policy. Total not going into the federal coffers: $340 billion/year.

      • Margaret Mills

        I guess the president didn’t expect people to like getting screwed over by their insurance companies. I sure was surprised to see how tightly people want to hold on to worthless insurance.

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        Uh, the ACA was available online before it was passed. All bills are available online.

      • Giray Kaya

        Not “all bills.” He has broken his 5-day promise many times. And this ties back to john doe’s rebuttal, “Intelligent people” can know from reading, instead of having to suffer through it.

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        Explain the five-day promise.

      • Giray Kaya

        The 5-day bill posting campaign promise is all over youtube (sometimes referred to as sunlight).

        From NYT, June 22, 1009, Katharine Q
        Seelye: “Five months into his administration, Mr. Obama has signed two dozen bills, but he has almost never waited five days.”

        Here is data, NOT from NYT (or even FoxNews):

        P.L. 111-2, The Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009, posted to web on 1/29/2009, signed on 1/29/2009.
        P.L. 111-3, The Children’s Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2009, posted to web on 2/1/2009, signed on 2/4/2009.
        P.L. 111-5, The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, posted to web on 2/13/2009, signed on 2/17/2009.
        P.L. 111-8, The Omnibus Appropriations Act, 2009, posted to web on 3/6/2009, signed on 3/11/2009.
        P.L. 111-11, The Omnibus Public Land Management Act of 2009, posted to web on 3/30/2009, signed on 3/30/2009.
        Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility, and Disclosure (CARD) Act of 2009, signed on May 22, only two days after the bill was finalized in Congress.

        And if that is not enough to establish a pattern, the following never even got posted:
        P.L. 111-6, Making further continuing appropriations for fiscal year 2009, and for other purposes, presented on 3/6/2009, never posted
        to web, signed on 3/6/2009.
        P.L. 111-7, A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 2105 East Cook Street in Springfield, Illinois, as the “Colonel John H. Wilson, Jr. Post Office Building,” presented on 2/26/09, never posted to web, signed on 3/9/2009.
        P.L. 111-9, To extend certain immigration programs, presented on 3/18/2009, never posted to web, signed on 3/20/2009.
        P.L. 111-10, To provide for an additional temporary extension of programs under the Small Business Act and the Small Business Investment
        Act of 1958, and for other purposes, presented on 3/19/2009, never posted to web, signed on 3/20/2009.
        P.L. 111-12, The Federal Aviation Administration Extension Act of 2009, presented on 3/24/2009, never posted to web, signed on 3/30/2009.

      • Cathryn Sykes

        To everyone who claims that the GOP didn’t get a chance to read the ACA…. please go read the procedures for passing a bill into law. A bill is proposed in a chamber of Congress. It is then reviewed by a number of committees of that chamber, and those committees make changes. It’s then brought up for a vote. If it passes, it goes to the other chamber of Congress, where the whole procedure starts again. The ACA spent MONTHS in Congress being read, debated, amended–including many amendments proposed by Republicans!–before it was finally, in a much altered form, given to the president for his signature. Anyone who implies anything different is either an idiot or, more likely, a deliberate liar.

      • robingee

        You don’t seem to understand words.

      • decreator

        Giray Kaya is either wilfully ignorant or dumb as a bag of rocks. Such deep denial of reality and facts. This is the problem in this country. Sooooo many people who do not read or seek reputable information on their own. It’s disgraceful and infuriating. Very sad.

      • robingee

        That’s very very true.

      • decreator

        You are in such deep denial of the FACTS it is mind boggling. You seem to just want to be contrary to and clearly have no insight

      • rick

        I could not have said it any better Cathryn

      • Joel A. Edge

        Yeah, it’s kind of ‘pass it to find out what’s in it’.

    • Roger Kunstman

      Talk about letting the Tea scum off the hook. You are truly part of the 9% approval. Doing nothing now is okay and we will do it later. There is no later, solutions now or maybe you just kick the can with your life.

    • deanne

      Because what we had before was SO good for so many people? Sure….that worked so well, limited coverage, being dropped for getting sick…. yeah let’s go back to that (sacasm)

    • Reddkl

      Are you aware that Obama Care IS the republicans version of universal health care? Heritage Foundation. Look it up before stating Republicans should come up with a better plan, because it IS their plan.

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        We all are aware. He probably doesn’t want to acknowledge it. 20 years ago the individual mandate was the Republicans’ solution for the “free rider problem.”

    • john doe

      A much better question is “WHY repeal the “damn” law?” Because 5 million people might have to buy an ACTUAL health plan, rather than one that is nothing more than an obligation to pay a premium yet doesn’t cover them for jack sh*t? As opposed to the FORTY million that had no chance in hell of having a health insurance plan before Obamacare? Oh…boo hoo for the 5 million that will now have actual insurance, but you know…fu*k the 40 million that were SOL before the law was passed. Cathryn is right, pops…you’re an idiot.

      • jeff

        remember the lady who had a 50/month health insurance plan? and complained it would cost her 600 now? she didn’t read her plan…the 50 dollars is what the INSURANCE COMPANY WOULD PAY..NOT HER…come on people give this thing a chance, aren’t you all tired of your benefits being lost to health care no matter who is involved? my rates keep going up every year, even before the ACA…wake up….

    • suburbancuurmudgeon

      The Republicans have NO plan, that’s the problem. Reagan was elected in 1980. The Republicans controlled the White House for 20 of the next 28 years and did nothing.

      • Helen

        That’s because there was too much money to be made by too many people in the medical industry to do anything under Republicans.

      • Cathryn Sykes

        Nailed it!

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        I have to agree with you and I’m a physician.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        I disagree………….vehemently!!!! the saint Reagan administration and bush(s) did plenty!! ( do I really need to elaborate? Hmmmm,,,ok heres a hint: 2008 meltdown)

      • Cathryn Sykes

        I would also add: 50,000 American dead or damaged; 125,000+ Iraqis dead. Trillions of tax dollars wasted. Helicopter pilots and firefighters being used as props for Bush photo-ops while American citizens drowned in the streets of New Orleans. Regs destroyed that kept Wall Street from acting like a bunch of drunks loose in a casino. I could go on…and on…and on.

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        Yeah, but they did nothing about the uninsured.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        I know,,,I was waxing irascibility with sarcasm,,,I hate the regressive white trash RIGHTING tea shitbag party

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        AMEN.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        I do enjoy super-gluing locks on churches hours B4 sunday MIS services

    • Aloanstar

      The Senate (or the White House) being controlled by the GOP?? That won’t be anytime soon….and he is one of the many reasons why.

    • Mr Smith

      Point of order pop the affordable care act is republican legislation. Democrats want a single payer government run health sytem. President Obama looked at the republican legislation and said ok lets make it work” at that point republicans became against it because they desperatly don’t want a black man to have a positive presidential legacy.

    • decreator

      Another idiot so blinded by the “Left Vs Right” paradigm, they can’t even see straight or think logically. This is the most ignorant comment I’ve read so far today. Smh

  • Bobbie 828

    I agree – repeal it – Medicare for everyone!! Medicare works for the 65+ – it would work even better if open to anyone.

    • jeff

      you are aware, the republicans are against MEDICARE FOR EVERYONE too..right?

      • Bobbie 828

        Yes – SO?

    • jdunaway65

      I’m still not crystal-clear on this, but from what I understand, those states who DID “opt-in” are receiving assistance from Medicare, aren’t they?

      • Jonathan

        Yes JD, Stated that opted in will receive Medicare assistance for 10 years……Because of the ACA, People are becoming aware that they qualify for Medicare and this enrages the Republicants….The President, rightly so, isn’t concerned what type of Insurance you have as long as you have it.

      • Gary Beatty

        I believe you are referring to Medicaid, not medicare. Medicare is for those 65+ or disabled. Medicaid is for the poor

  • califcowgirl1955

    I have always worked were my insurance cost come out of my paycheck. Every year we have to pick a new plan, see if my doctors will take it. Every year my share of cost or co-pay is different. It never goes down, NEVER.

    • suburbancuurmudgeon

      Our premiums usually go up every year while the drug coverage gets worse.

      • Aca-MarketPlace.com

        Time to go Shopping !

      • califcowgirl1955

        When I had Kaiser, my co-pay went up from $5 a month to $25. for prescriptions. My premiums would stay the same, but my co-pay for my dr. kept going up, that was in 2005-2010 long before ACA.
        When I lost my job I couldn’t get insurance cause I had pre-existing, yada yada yada.
        Until now, I will be able to get health insurance for $117 a month. Thank you ACA. In California it is working just fine.

  • spewking

    I wonder why the tea party darlings (Cruz,Palin,etc) aren’t pushing the Heritage Foundry’s ideas on healthcare? At least that would give them something to say other than rollback ACA. Maybe they’re afraid of the Medicare suggestion which is to move it to vouchers. Political suicide?

    • Karen Peters

      The ACA is modeled after the Heritage Foundations ideas on healthcare. Romney took their plan to Mass where it was successfully implemented. The ACA was then implemented on a national level. The Democrats originally proposed a single payer system, but the Republicans did not want that so they tweeked the ACA to fit their agenda. As soon as the President signed onto their plan, they hated it and blamed the President for all of it’s problems. That is why Cruz and Palin won’t support the Heritage Foundations plan, because the ACA is their plan.

  • Cathryn Sykes

    The only “solution” to everything the GOP can offer is “It’s all Obama’s fault.” They never propose anything positive, useful or sensible. Ever.

  • Matthew Reece

    The path to the solution is to allow the free market to work by removing all artificial barriers to competition, such as the current prohibition on offering healthcare plans across state lines. The actual solution is impossible to predict due to the economic calculation problem.

    • regressive rightwing trash

      YA MEAN ………………. like the FREE MARKET which was working SOOOOO well selling junk “insurance” and dropping people as soon as they had anything needed? that’s a great idea there ,,,,,, the actual solution is NOT to be PREDICTED U asshole—- it is to be worked upon by those representatives who are VOTED IN and PAID by American voters and taxpayers.

      • Matthew Reece

        That was not a free market. A free market does not have any government involvement.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        according to the intellectuals at FOX “news” U are incorrect,and FOX is NEVER wrong ( C’ept that silly ROMNEY wins stuff)

    • Pipercat

      Matthew, the insurance companies epitomize authoritarian rule. This whole notion of going across state lines merely gives more power to these entities who, up until recently, had the power over life, health and death. They do not believe in free markets, only cornered ones.

      • Matthew Reece

        If they have to compete with insurers in other states, then people have more options. This means that insurers face more competition to get the business of each person. When this happens, costs go down and quality of coverage goes up.

      • Pipercat

        That’s the problem, it’s the usual suspects in every state minus one or two small insurers. What would happen is the big boys would have unfettered access, use their resources to create a bait and switch then eventually push out the smaller players. Basically, by policy dumping. The big hospital entities already do this. This whole notion is a pig-in-a-poke that seems good on the surface, but is nothing but a power grab.

      • Matthew Reece

        The current state-by-state system is the result of lobbyists bribing politicians to make it that way. Why would they have done that (and never undone that) if it were not helping the big insurance companies? Any government barrier to competition needs to be torn down because the big companies will bribe the politicians to craft those barriers to crush smaller competition.

      • Pipercat

        Indeed, the insurance industry bought and paid for the
        McCarran–Ferguson Act, but all it did was exempt these entities from antitrust regulation if there was state regulation in place. Subsequent to its passage, the insurance companies colluded with each other to artificially manipulate premiums. So in fact, the act did tear down some barriers and they well, wasted no time exploiting it. Like I said in the beginning, quite authoritarian of them. It’s not just government my friend, any group, given the power, will abuse it. I’ve been around this particular industry for about eight years now, and the shear arrogance of these companies would shock anybody.

      • Cathryn Sykes

        They won’t compete….because the biggest health insurance companies will simply buy up the smaller ones.

    • wawoo

      Ah Mr Reece, another failure in logic and reason. In your libertarian fantasy land all of the actors in a transaction have equal knowledge and equal power. I bet you are unable to read and understand a health insurance policy.
      There is more than sufficient reason that insurance markets are regulated in some measure and would note the fauex libertarian dream derivitives market was a big driver for the real estate bubble and inevitable collapse. Bet you could not fathom a derivitive contract either.

      • Matthew Reece

        Insults are admissions of defeat and ignorance. If you had the intellectual capacity to attack my arguments, you would not be attacking me.

        The crash of 2008 was ultimately caused by the Federal Reserve artificially lowering interest rates in 2004, which triggered a wave of malinvestment in subprime mortgages. True to Austrian business cycle theory, a recession occurred. This had nothing to do with a free market.

      • wawoo

        You don’t know nuttin bout history, don’y know nuttin bout money too. Most folks after they get through pimples, and 98% of Rand luv is from adolescent males, come to realize Ayn Rand is both a terrible writer and a terrible thinker.Then there are the few, the obscessed, the deranged . Even he who set at Ayn Rands knee Alan of the Green Span literally has acknowledged a big whoopser on the gross free market failure of the real estate bubble and its bursting.I will agree that Alan of the Green Span’s obscession with inflation and thus keeping the interest rate far too low was a piece of the puzzle but it is not the key.

      • wawoo

        Adddendum, bet you still cannot read and understand a health insurance policy. Or a derivitive agreement. By the by, I and a bunch of far more sophisticated folks could not understand a derivitives agreement at first blush. They made and make, since they are still around, the fiercely partisan to the issuing party construction contracts I deal with look like the soul of reason and fair play, which by the by they are not.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        matthew is infallible, so lets all call him POPE

      • Matthew Reece

        I am not infallible, but around here I often feel like I am bringing an AK-47 to a fist fight. The logical illiteracy of the majority of statists never ceases to amaze me.

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        Your logical illiteracy never ceases to amaze me. Might be nice if you posted some actual world experience to back up your idiotic “free market” rhetoric. There is no “free market” and the people at the top don’t WANT a free market. They want the rigged game that exists.

      • Matthew Reece

        This is what I am talking about. Calling things “idiotic” without providing evidence as to why is an ad lapidem fallacy. Saying I am “logically illiterate” without explaining how is an ad hominem fallacy. Such informal fallacies are implicit admissions of an inability to engage in rational discourse.

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        First, you were the one who made the remark about “logical illiteracy.” You also made the rather presumptuous assertion you were “bringing an AK-47 to a knife fight.” If it isn’t intuitively obvious, none of us are buying into your libertarian fantasy of a “free market” making our lives so much better.

        You said, “The path to the solution is to allow the free market to work by removing all artificial barriers to competition, such as the current prohibition on offering healthcare plans across state lines.” I asked for some examples of how this has worked in practice.

        I think it is a ludicrous idea because the health insurance industry is largely a monopoly and isn’t interested in providing less-expensive insurance through the magic of competition. I believe there is no such thing as “the free market,” –rather, the game is rigged by those with power and money.

        If healthcare was truly a “free market,” no one would buy because prices are too high, or someone wouldn’t be raking in the dough because prices had been slashed to more modest levels.

      • Matthew Reece

        Health insurance is a monopoly because government has interfered with the economy to grant monopolies (or near-monopolies) to certain companies.

        The “free market” is simply a term to describe the sum of all individual transactions which do not involve fraud of coercion. It is a concept, not an entity.

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        I don’t want a concept; I want real-world examples. Show me examples of where your free market hasn’t resulted in an unpleasant imbalance tilted heavily towards the merchant class.

        Monopolies exist DESPITE government, not BECAUSE of government. Your “free market” is my oligarchy.

      • Matthew Reece

        Show me an example where a monopoly has arisen without the help of government. (You can’t because there isn’t one.)

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        The Gilded Age. Roosevelt and government intervened because Teddy thought capitalism run amok wasn’t a great idea. And you used the classic teabagger approach: deflect and ask another question. So, answer my question, if you can.

      • Matthew Reece

        False. Crony corporatism was run amok, not free market capitalism. Corporations are a government creation, not a free market creation.

        The free market has not been allowed to operate anywhere, as governments have been interfering with economies since their inception. It is hard to give examples of something when they keep getting destroyed before they can form.

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        So your belief that a free market would be a benefit to mankind is largely speculative and hardly likely to exist in reality. Indeed, the corporation goes back a couple thousand years:

        “The word “corporation” derives from corpus, the Latin word for body, or a “body of people.” By the time of Justinian (reigned 527–565), Roman Law recognized a range of corporate entities under the names universitas, corpus or collegium. These included the state itself (the populus Romanus), municipalities, and such private associations as sponsors of a religious cult,burial clubs, political groups, and guilds of craftsmen or traders.
        Such bodies commonly had the right to own property and make contracts, to receive gifts and legacies, to sue and be sued, and, in general, to
        perform legal acts through representatives. Private associations were granted designated privileges and liberties by the emperor.[10] Entities which carried on business and were the subjects of legal rights were found in ancient Rome, and the Maurya Empire in ancient India.[11] (Wikipedia entry)

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        Government is people, not a non-human entity. Neither is “The Market.” The common denominator is human beings.

      • wawoo

        Alternative spelling, poop.

      • Matthew Reece

        Your continual portrayal of me as a fan of Ayn Rand after I have specifically told you otherwise demonstrates your bullying disposition and lack of ability to engage in rational discourse.

      • wawoo

        Look, I saw something from a friend of mine tha other day. She said her grandfather told her if during your day you bump into someone you consider an a hole occassionally it is just your bad luck. If you run into a holes all the time , look in the mirror to see the likely a hole. I suggest you look in the mirror since every comment thread you participate in has the same outcome. PS , i had not seen that you were a Molyneux follower. He is from the same intellectual tribe and , though one would not think it possible,even worse than Ayn Rand as a writer and thinker not to say as a self reflecting egotist. Pretty much the same camp but I repeat myself. You said you are an anarcho capitalist but not an anarchist. Last I checked anarcho derives from anarchist. Spend a long tome looking in the mirror and ruminating on my friend’s grandfather’s words.

    • suburbancuurmudgeon

      Free market my butt. There is no free market, only a monopoly. Insurers are interested in making shitloads of money, not engaging in competition.

      • Matthew Reece

        I never said there had been a free market in health insurance. I am saying we need one.

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        And exactly what would that accomplish? Lower health care costs? No, because them what provides is in it for the money and aren’t going to want much lower profit.

  • Roger Kunstman

    Just nominated Cruz to join other Tea Party useless to work at a laundry where they could join with all the other wash women that do nothing but gossip and point fingers at others all day. No real solutions just useless hot air.

    • lindylou

      Sending Cruz to work with wash women is like sending Ryan to wash clean dishes at an empty soup kitchen. A real wash woman (or man) is too busy, and sweltering, to be pointing anything. And for little pay and threatened assistance.

  • hermanprovi

    Ted Cruz should quit politics, and start writing fiction. This interview proves his ability to do so!

    • regressive rightwing trash

      or do a “REALITY” show on FOX “news” out of a church ( tax free of course)

    • Lablea

      The problem with Cruz writing fiction, he would publish the same book over and over and over…

    • LateNightLarry

      The problem would be getting someone to buy his fantasies… he couldn’t survive on selling a couple of books a month.

  • worrierking

    People aren’t forced into part time work by this law. Anyone who is only working 29 hours per week can thank his scumbag employer. As usual, our “job creators” are the guilty parties in this. I’m waiting for one of our Republican representatives to admit that big business has found another law they can get around.

    • suburbancuurmudgeon

      Employers have been employing part-timers for decades to avoid paying benefits.

      • jdunaway65

        Or hiring new employees with a “90 day probation,” after which time they have to pay insurance, but… oops! Letting them go without cause (which can be done during a probation) after 88 or 89 days.

    • Refudiator

      Maybe they should just hire those part timers full time and pay the outrageous government healthcare TAX and charge your idiotic @$$ $20 for a Big Mac? Yea you didn’t major in business economics did you genius?

      • Michael O’Brien

        You’re supposed to shout Bengazi before you demonstrate your lack of facts.

  • Dan Mackey

    I believe the Republican solution is precisely to “do nothing” about healthcare. They and their patrons were doing just fine before the ACA started. Ted Cruze has no problem with his health care access.

    Everyone cannot have Medicare. It pays healthcare providers less than the cost of providing their care. When hospitals provide care to the uninsured, Medicaid and Medicare patients, they lose money and charge everyone else high rates to make up the difference. More people on Medicare means higher hosptial costs and fewer hospitals. No free lunch.

  • Republicrat

    I would say Ted Cruz is retarded, but I would NEVER want people with a mental illness to be insulted by the obvious comparison.

  • frelling_cute

    He’s smug and he’s a lunatic.

  • Dennis Reilly

    Well, you see, Ted Cruz isn’t just an idiot, he’s a dipshit, too!

    • regressive rightwing trash

      nope– wrong again! cruz is a great (Canadian) American who makes BIG money capitalizing upon the stupidity of regressive white trash crybabies who enjoy getting screwed ( see: tithing) in tax free churches and listening/watching such luminaries as Hannity/beck/judge Jeannie/ Limbaugh and michelle ” no tits and pissed off about that” malkin,,,,,those FOX “news” idols are rolling in money sucked from regressive old Christian southern inbred trash

      • Nathan Frigerio

        Wow…..tell us how you really feel. It would be funny if it weren’t so tragic.

  • jqanderson1

    What an idiot! In his last paragraph he talks about people having to work part-time. Like that’s something new. Basically if you work a minimum wage job, you are also working part-time. It’s been happening that way for a long, long time.

  • armyofone

    “You can’t feed your kids with 29 hours a week” so raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour….Einstein

    • Matthew Reece

      In 1964, the minimum wage was 5 silver quarters per hour. Today,
      their melt value would be about $20, give or take based on
      fluctuations in the price of silver. The minimum wage is not the
      problem; the problem is the money. Those who really want to solve the
      problem of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer need
      to advocate for an end to central banking and a return to sound
      money.

      • Ryan G.

        I agree, in some ways, that our financial system is broken simply for the fact that it isn’t really backed by anything.

        I don’t agree with your anti-government solutions in most aspects, but if paychecks were in something substantial, it could alleviate a lot of issues.

      • wawoo

        Yes Mr Sweetheart Reece, that scheme did so well in the middle ages and explains why southwest Asia, and most of Africa and the middle east have the countries that dominate the world economy today as well as the highest median incomes in the world. Remind me what your precious metals are denominated in? Oh dollars. Those damn fiat money dollars. Pss’t all money including your precious metals are fiat money . They only have relevance for economic exchange because the general society agrees they can be used for same whether it be sea shells, furs, beads hard currency , printed money or a myriad of other things that have been used.

      • Matthew Reece

        Neither sea shells, furs, beads, Bitcoins, nor hard currency can be printed on a whim by a central authority. That is the difference.

        Central banking began in the Middle Ages when people started depositing their precious metals in banks and doing their business with the certificates rather than actually getting out the precious metals for each transaction. Bankers then realized that they could simply make more certificates than the amount of specie on hand and get away with it unless there was a run on the banks. Thus the current system of fiat money and inflation began.

        While there are precious metals denominated in dollars, there are many precious metal bars that just have the mass and purity stamped on them.

      • wawoo

        Bitcoins? Really? What is more whimsical than bitcoins that are a deliberately constructed to be a scarce/limited means of exchange which did not originate “organically” but as a very much product of a not elected or controlled central authority that is definitely being proven illegitimate. Really illegitimate as in facillitating criminal activity. Get a grip .

      • Matthew Reece

        Fiat money has facilitated far more criminal activity than Bitcoins probably ever will. No one has ever financed a war or economically enslaved an entire population with a cryptocurrency. But I guess in your world, crimes don’t count when statists commit them in the name of government and call their actions something else.

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        They are also not crimes just because you say they are…

      • wawoo

        And Dear Mother Goose, what is more “fiat’ in the sense of having no intrinsic value than bitcoins which only “exist” as electrons which one sure as hell cannot possess. Radical libertarianism, all imaginary all the time.

      • Matthew Reece

        Name calling is an admission of stupidity.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        or a flexing of off-color lexiphania ” street style”

  • robingee

    They don’t care AT ALL about helping Americans. Not one bit.

  • LiberalOldLadiesLOL

    May there be voice in the night haunting the dreams of Cruz, “Poor Ted, he can’t help it. He was born with a silver stone in his heart.”

  • Stella Luna

    “You can’t feed your kids with 29 hours a week.”
    Does this idiot think you can feed your kids and pay your bills on a full-time job at minimum wage?

  • Christopher Greene

    Have any of you considered that the ACA — that big ass, 11,000 pages long law — has a lot of irrelevant, non-health related mandates and regulations in it? This law, like most laws, has regulations in it that have nothing to do with what it is being passed off as. ‘This’ is why people resist it. Go do some research on your own.

    • jimmyjimmydore

      11,000 pages long. How short would you like it to be?

      #MeaninglessTalkingPoint

  • proud2beDem

    Taking all into consideration the supposed 5 mill I don’t hear complaining , I guess like anything else in life they just go and buy another product .How many times in life has a company stopped making or changed a product you like . This is pretty much the same thing . We the American people {the majority of us } are accustom to needing to change many things in our lives to accommadate what we need verses what we want . I wish some of these Politicians would chock on that golden spoon they have hanging out of there mouths and take a real good look at the hole picture and realize ACA is doing more good for so many more than the few it is inconveniencing .

    • LateNightLarry

      It’s inconveniencing the insurance company executives because they can no longer write garbage insurance policies that don’t cover anything, then take those “profits” from garbage policies and pay that out to themselves as bonuses for being so successful.

  • spiffykeen

    Why the hell doesn’t anyone actually call them out for not having any alternative whatsoever? If “mainstream” media were really so liberal, they wouldn’t let *all* of these republicans get away with saying, “Our plan is to come up with a plan” about *everything*.

  • Stephen Barlow

    All you can do is send it in to “America’s Stupidest Videos” and hope the check doesn’t bounce.

  • sinrise

    Cruz is an empty vessel.

  • gene

    Ted “Caligula” Cruz strikes again

  • zobva

    Like Huckabee, Cruz is another CINO *Christian In Name Only,” using the gullible for his political purposes. Real Christians want to see sick people healed. This man is evil, plain and simple. And the foolish church going masses are being blinded by his pretense at religious faith. The Bible says that in the last days the very “elect of God” will be deceived by the anti-Christ, and I used to wonder how that was possible. Now I see it clearly when I see the sheep following CINOs like Cruz who is against everything that Christ stood for: healing the sick, feeding the poor, having compassion for the less fortunate, and who is for everything that Christ was against: helping the wealthy get wealthier and the poor get poorer and injecting this religious dogma into government, Jesus said to render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s and unto God that which is God’s. Cruz needs to either support health care for all Americans or drop the pretense at being a Christian.

  • katherine norton malek

    This goober belongs in Hollywood NOT Washington DC. He has done absolutely NOTHING as a US Senator. Nothing. Nada. Zip Zilch. He spends all his time in front of a microphone or TV camera reciting the same rhetoric poetry that isn’t even creative or expandable enough to change according to the topic at hand. He’s not even adept at ad libbing or winging it. His responses are so canned he sounds like he suffers from an advanced case of non-sequitar syndrome. Take a ‘Cruz’ back to Canada. Oops … they wouldn’t want him. Canadians are far too progressive & they don’t appear to have a Tea Party.

  • dorothy’s doggie

    so obamacare cause people to loose their jobs. hmmmm, well so does outsourcing and its not obamacare, so does rising healthcare costs (that would be doctors, big pharma, not obamacare) Does he not realize that he is a SENATOR? oh im sorry, that is a 3 syllable word. Senators, Mr. Cruz create laws not excuses, perhaps you were asleep in government class. Could someone upload ‘Im Just a Bill’ from the schoolhouse rock videos to Mr. Cruz’s website or FB page? Oh, and isnt he foreign born? he looks foreign, so he wont get the nod from the GOP to run for Prez. whatever.

  • John

    People are stupid if they think Government is going to fix all problems. Obamacare should never have started. We need less gov’t and more people working hard and working together – neither of which our politicians do. Go to school and always work hard. We can all pitch in to help when times are tough, but times can’t be tough your whole life. Many people think they will live off welfare, that is bad for everyone (including them).
    Make it hard on them so they want a job and will work for it to free themselves from the bondage of debt and the support of others. Many people I have met on welfare have nicer TV’s than I do. They shouldn’t have TV’s or playstations – they need to sell these things to be on welfare. No cigarettes or any other extras if on welfare. PERIOD. This country goes down the drain if we can’t fix these things.

    • Betty Caron

      John did you even read the article. You sound like a Fox troll. You’re repeating their talking points which are all wrong and lies.

    • emeraldeyes24

      HELLO, John? Really, less government? Are you serious? What do you mean, less government? Less government is what you get when 2008 rolls around and the banking and financial industries are collapsing around you, people are losing their homes, jobs are being lost by the hundreds of thousands every month, and the entire economy is going into the dumper. Less government means chaos and anarchy. What is needed is GOOD GOVERNMENT! And good government would be Universal healthcare. A Healthcare system where everyone has it – like the air you breathe – whether they are a newborn or a 90 year old grandmother, it’s just there. No more medicaid for special groups because they have healthcare. There are 3 players, You, Your healthcare provider (primary physician, specialist, surgeon, lab, emergency ward, in-patient services, etc) and state government (which every state would be required CONSTITUTIONALLY to provide since healthcare should be deemed a citizen’s RIGHT). It would be 50% more efficient and 40% less expensive because for-profit insurance companies would be gone. THAT is good government. The monstrosity that is the way healthcare has not been effective for 70 years is not what a responsible society looks like. Where, exactly, are the taxes you pay every year going?

  • adcbeast

    I’m trying to figure out why anyone would want their employer involved in their health insurance purchase

    I don’t want my employer involved in anything that I purchase .. not my car .. nor my car insurance .. not my home .. not my home insurance .. NOTHING

  • robert

    The Republicans do not have a single creative idea. Everything they submit is negative. Their only recommendation they have for healthcare is “tort reform,” which has been tried at state levels and found totally worthless.

  • theantiantihero

    See, the thing is…they don’t give a $hit.

  • jdunaway65

    Says the man whose insurance is covered on his wife’s plan ($40K/year value) as a FREE BENEFIT from her employer…

  • cricket_666

    I truly wish the media would stop having these loser types spouting their hatred on air. Don’t give them a media to lie to us and maybe they’ll go away.

  • Obamaisaracist

    I have read and listened to a lot of stupid during the Racist Obama years, but this story has topped them all, frigging leftists what a joke. “3 1/2 years later, Republicans have yet to do just that.” so Obamanation care hasn’t been implemented, the racist in charge came up with the dog crap of a worthless scheme that ONLY the leftist would even consider it to be a step forward, yet you leftist wackos act as if there wasn’t anything before the head racist came up with this hair brain childish scheme. The healthcare system sure worked way better than Obamanation care will, the only difference is you free loading leftists had to pay your own way. If you didn’t then you ALL would be screaming to get rid of it but since you have an opportunity to get more for free you undoubtedly will do ALL you can to get it. Get out of your parents basements and get a frigging job.

  • The Tea Party… the “cut-taxes and that’s all we got” party!

  • rossbro

    All politicians who think like Cruz need to go. N O W !!!!!

  • J5

    Cruz is for corporate profiteering off sick people. That is the plan….

  • Qwertyy650

    Allen Clifton for President!