Ted Cruz’s Delusion Continues, Accuses Bob Schieffer of Repeating Liberal Talking Points for Simply Stating Facts

schiefferIn many ways, I truly believe Ted Cruz represents the exact type of conservatives the Republican party really wants running this country.  Which is a terrifying thought considering he’s quickly proving himself to be quite possibly insane.

I think most of us are well aware of what happened during the whole government shutdown fiasco.  Basically, it was a pointless move spearheaded by Ted Cruz in a last-ditch effort to try to defund the Affordable Care Act (aka “Obamacare”).  Every one knew – including several Republicans who spoke out against it – that it stood absolutely no chance at actually working.  It was probably the most pointless thing I’ve seen in a very long time.

Anyone who knew anything factual about the entire situation knew all Speaker of the House John Boehner had to do was stop blocking a vote on a clean version of the resolution the Senate had sent over to the House of Representatives, and the entire government shutdown would have been averted completely.

The entire government shutdown was 100% on the Republican party.  Largely due to the antics that were going on behind the scenes – again led by Ted Cruz.

Well, Cruz is once against denying that he pushed for a government shutdown.  This time he accused Bob Schieffer during an interview of using liberal talking points because Mr. Schieffer decided to use facts when speaking with the Texas senator.

Schieffer mentioned that Cruz was someone who pushed for the government shutdown, to which Cruz quickly went off on his usual delusional rant where he claims he never wanted it and instead it was President Obama and Democrats who forced the shutdown.

Cruz said, “As I said, I didn’t shut down the government the last time.  I don’t think we should ever shut down the government.  I repeatedly voted–”

At this point Schieffer cut Cruz off, asking him, “Senator, if you didn’t threaten the shut down the government, who was it that did?”

To which Cruz responded, “I understand that the White House said over and over again the shutdown was the Republicans’ fault, I understand that’s what you’re repeating.  But the reality is I voted over and over again to fund the federal government, and the reason we had a shut down.  Look, the Democrats were very candid.  I know they told you we think the shutdown benefits us politically. Right now the Democrats are telling you that they want another shutdown because they think it benefits them politically.”

At this point, clearly annoyed with Cruz, Schieffer fired back, “Senator, I know what Republicans were telling me, like John Boehner, who said this was the disaster and never again.”

Even Speaker Boehner has several times alluded to the fact that the government shutdown was a giant mistake and he wouldn’t do it again.  A clear admission by the leading congressional Republican that this was the fault of the Republican party.

It’s just amazing how Cruz simply refuses to admit that he pushed for the government shutdown.  Even when people point out the fact that before it happened – he was pushing for a government shutdown.  

The guy is absolutely out of his mind.  Sometimes I can’t tell if he’s just a crafty politician who’s fully committed to the strategy of pandering to the tea party or he’s just living in some sort of alternative reality.  Then again, tea party voters usually seem to live in some form of alternate reality to begin with, so maybe it’s both.

But the really sad part is, he’s the exact type of conservative tea party Republicans want running this county.  It’s up to all of us to make damn sure that never happens.

Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Mrs_oatmeal

    If the citizens of this great country could get off their butts and learn how the government worked, maybe some of these delusional politicians would get caught in their falter ate universe speak…I remember
    Michelle Bachman stating that the Republican Party was as giddy as they had ever been over the government shut down. Heck they had been planning it for months! Once they realized that the more educated voters were not buying that they didn’t shut it down, but the President did, they back pedaled like a circus clown.

  • Pipercat

    It’s another example of the non-responsibility paradigm. Act irresponsibly, then blame somebody else after the fact.

  • strayaway

    1) Cruz and other House Republicans pass bill to fund government but not the (un)ACA.
    2) Obama and Senate Democrats say they will not compromise and that bill dies.
    3) House Republicans do compromise and pass another face saving budget bill that delays the implementation of major parts of the (un)ACA for a year.
    4) Obama and Senate Democrats say they will not compromise and that bill dies,
    5) The clock runs out and parks are closed, veterans memorials are closed, visa services are shut down, priests offering to say mass for free for servicemen are threatened, and Americans are otherwise targeted to feel pain. Legislators’ pay and benefits are not reduced. The Senate gym remains open.
    6) Boehner caves.
    7) After the (un)ACA deprives 5M Americans of their health care insurance, Obama delayed the implementation of major parts of the (un)ACA for a year – a compromise so unacceptable to Democrats a month or so before that they preferred allowing the government to shut down.

    • marecek21

      Nice rewriting of history, but anyone who was paying attention knows this is nothing more than distorted BS. That’s the current GOTP approach: leave out 95% of what actually occurred so that you can present your false narrative as factual.

      • strayaway

        I guess that I left out the part about Cruz talking all night while the Senate otherwise would have been closed = Cruz shut down the government. Well maybe he didn’t shut down the government but he kept the janitors from vacuuming that night.

    • Pipercat

      Do you want to know what mistake you make when you write this fiction? You assume the rest of the class wasn’t paying attention during the time in question. Besides your usual fallacious nonsense, today you’re just plain sloppy.

    • Bob

      Wow you watch a lot Fux news huh

      • strayaway

        Bob, you get the award for the most non-fact containing insult so far. Actually, I spend much more time with BBC, NPR, the Guardian, and Daily Mail so you are not only a dullard but wrong.

      • Bob

        Wow name calling How grown up. You are the fool that is misinformed and sorry but your talking points sounded just like Fux news. and not only are you a

        idiot, dumbbell, dumbhead, dummkopf, dummy, dunce, dunderhead, fathead, gander, golem, goof, goon, half-wit, hammerhead, hardhead, ignoramus, imbecile, jackass,but you are also WRONG Asswipe

      • Charles Vincent

        No less grown up than your comment;
        “Wow you watch a lot Fux news huh”
        Tit for tat Bobby.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        u forgot gerbil stuffer

      • white trash religious teaparty

        FOX “news”

    • thesquire1

      AS ABOVE :- That equates to the school bully claiming his victim deserved a beating as he wouldn’t hand over his lunch money !
      Very GOP (or maybe Chris Christie ?)

      • strayaway

        Please be more specific to make sense. What does “that” refer to?

    • white trash religious teaparty

      question for those OVER educated (???) such as thee: in THIS country; what GOVERNING BODY has SOLE power to SHUTDOWN THE US GOVERNMENT?
      ( this oughta be good)

      • strayaway

        Most recently, although it wasn’t a shutdown, the Democratic senate refused to pass a House budget bill before the clock ran out. But, had the senate passed the House bill, the President vowed to veto it, in which case the clock would have run out before or after the President’s action. However, the government never did shut down as the military, the senate gym, and other important government functions continued to perform. So your premise that a SOLE GOVERNING BODY can shut down the government and your inference that the government was SHUTDOWN rather than temporarily trimmed were incorrect. Actually, under the Constitution, i don’t think any GOVERNING BODY can SHUTDOWN THE US GOVERNMENT because they are each charged with specific duties. That does bring up the interesting question of how they could be impeached for not paying the bills. Maybe we would just have to muddle through until the next election to get rid of them. (capitalizations used for purposes of mimicry and humor)

      • white trash religious teaparty

        let me know when U are able intellectually to answer such a easy inquiry. look it up online in U need to.
        HINT: it aint da’ senate—–

      • white trash religious teaparty

        news ‘flash”,,,,,,,,,,,,house has sole power to shutdown govt, refute that in its simplicity or do not reply ( yeah; right,,,,,,,,a crybaby NOT replying)

      • strayaway

        What happened, Did you lose some pages from you Cliff Notes? You should have read my reply instead. Never mind, it will go over your head.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        I read your verbose post——-
        ‘ the house is the ONLY branch which can shutdown govt. I wish we could wager big money; sadly this is an internet blog

      • strayaway

        yawn

      • white trash religious teaparty

        yep—
        that’s what crybabies do when confronted with facts: they roll their eyes and praise jeeeeesus
        ——————————————————————-
        nap time !!

      • strayaway

        yawn

      • white trash religious teaparty

        nap time for u and your WHIG party!!!
        sleeeeeep……sleeeep– POPPIES!

      • strayaway

        yawn

      • white trash religious teaparty

        I luv crybabies

      • strayaway

        yawn

      • white trash religious teaparty

        hows the FOX “news” softening of ACA and Benghazi doin’ ya” sleeping through that eh; brainiac?

    • James

      1) True.
      2) They’ve repeatedly compromised until now. The ACA was in and of itself a compromise. A compromise would have been providing an alternative to what you’re trying to change, unless you think psuedo-free-market heath care was working?
      3) This compromise was a sabotage of the bill.
      4) As it should. The bill was meant as sabotage, not a solution.
      5) True. Note: Senate gym was something that the republicans made sure was open.
      6) It’s debatable that ‘doing what you should have done in the first place instead of giving in to continued peer pressure’ is caving. See his ‘are you kidding me!?’ moment for an example.
      7) Fallacy; you health care options changing, many times for the better is not equal to depriving. Obama delayed it due to other unforseen circumstances, and the delay was only for one part, not the several parts in the delay bill you cited.

      As is said by others, we were paying attention. The Democrats are not the ones trying to destroy the country so we can say ‘see, their way fails.” When a politician says “Gay marraige should be outlawed” we don’t have to guess their party affiliation. Supply side economics failed so badly, social security has been jeopardized. Democrats aren’t pushing for creationism in school. Democrats don’t support the Citizens United.

      You seem like a reasonably intelligent person, it’s high time you used it to do more than pandering to what you want to hear and feel and return to reality.

      • strayaway

        2) I dont think the pseudo free-market health care was working. As you suggested, it was pseudo. The Corporations selling drugs, insurance etc. had rigged the market, making it less free, in their favor. The (un)ACA only made the corporatist market less free.
        3) How was it a sabotage when Obama then delayed many of the same programs you labeled as “sabotage”?
        5) although they don’t control the Senate? funny…
        7) I have been trying to make the point here that it is arrogant of anyone to smugly say that they are better off without any health insurance. Imagine if Republicans had concocted some grand scheme causing 5M families to be deprived of their health insurance. Tell that to old people who now have to buy coverage for birth control and pregnancy care. Yeah, Obama delayed it because he was losing so much polling support because of Americans being stripped of their health insurance.

        Your second to last paragraph introduces various topics not in the article I was responding to. I could bring up Libya, the decline of the middle class under Obama, Afghanistan KIA statistics under Obama and various other topics too but this isn’t the place for them,

        Reality is what I present when i try to wake up the sheeple. Do numbers like 6.7%, 11.5M, and $17.3T or the TPP and NSA mean anything to you?

  • Jim Bean

    On September 30, the Republican-led House sent many proposals to continue funding the government through December while delaying or blocking the Affordable Care Act, each of which were blocked by the Democratic-led Senate.[65] Even if the Senate had agreed to House demands, President Obama threatened to veto any bill that would delay the Affordable Care Act.
    Obama then went on to arbitrarily and unlawfully implement the same delays he promised to veto if included in the Republican bill that would have prevented the shutdown.
    To cling to the notion that it was strictly irresponsibility on the part of the Republicans that caused the shutdown is to dismiss reality. To call Republicans ‘obstructionists’ for refusing to relinquish their role in the legislative process is treasonous.

    • Pipercat

      Is it possible for you to create any argument that is not made of straw?

      • white trash religious teaparty

        no,,,,,,unless it involves his fave sport teams

    • Bob

      Seriously what world do you live in?

      • white trash religious teaparty

        the land of FOX and FRIENDS—————
        that land is shrinking violently!!

    • thesquire1

      That equates to the school bully claiming his victim deserved a beating as he wouldn’t hand over his lunch money !
      Very GOP (or maybe Chris Christie ?)

      • Jim Bean

        Obama’s the Bully. He say’s ‘my way or the highway’ on everything and tomorrow night, he’s going to give you another heavy dose of it. He thinks he’s King and he’s going to speak to America as if from the throne. And he’s going to blame everyone else for ‘not working with him’ (or not bowing in reverent submission, if you will.)

    • Jerry Cormack

      Oh, Please! When Congress passes a law, it is the job of the President to execute that law. By delaying the implementation, the President would have been guilty of an impeachable offense. He had to push for that law to be implemented or he would be playing right into the Tea Party’s hands. To now try to blame him for it is the dumbest line of non-reasoning I can think of. Try to get educated on the relationships of the three branches before you post your “opinion.”

      • strayaway

        The President did delay the implementation of parts of the (un)ACA. That’s Jim’s point. By your rules and reasoning, the President is guilty of an impeachable offense. I gave you a “like”.

      • Jim Bean

        Sorry. I had heard he had enacted an Enrollment Deadline Delay, an Open Enrollment Delay, An Effective Tax Penalty Delay, A Large Employer Mandate Delay, a Small Business Site delay, a Back End System Build-out delay, a Spanish Language Site delay, and a Health-gov Functionality delay. But I’m glad I’m wrong because as you say, those ARE impeachable offenses.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        sooooooooooooooo——-why has Darrell issa and his clan NOT impeached the Kenyan communist?

      • Jim Bean

        You know the answer to that.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        yes I do—————– not enough to go on.

    • white trash religious teaparty

      and 100% accurate

    • white trash religious teaparty

      only the house can shutdown govt, PERIOD

      • Jim Bean

        Just be careful you don’t get smothered between those.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        my lung capacity is splendid and im very physically fit !
        ,,,,,,,,,besides: decades of “skin” diving has me an expert in dealing thelyphthorically with those man eaters!

  • dutch163

    another great article by Allen Clifton…yes, Cruz may insane..or hoping the American public is not too bright…I recall his reading of “Green eggs and Ham” by Dr Suess in his filibuster hoping to defund the ACA…”I do not like it Sam-I-Am”…well..if he was hoping to equate green eggs with the ACA..he missed the point of the book…the character DID try it and LIKED it..much like the ACA now…as it improves from its difficult launch!

  • Pipercat

    I am so amused by two of our resident novelists. These poor fellows seem to forget one minor detail that creates a big program with their recent contributions. 2013 was the first year that two budget resolutions and a budget request were sitting on the table. Sitting and gathering dust for more than five months. The Senate was ready to go to conference because that was part of the deal made between Biden and McConnell. Meanwhile over at the house, the leadership there was up to their usual games delaying the conference with bullshit and photo ops. Then, the deadline approaches and the fan is impacted. What did we get out of all of this? More can kicking and business as usual. Make some more popcorn…

  • Sandy Greer

    1) Ted Cruz is your classic ‘abuser’: Blame his victim: “See what you made me do!”
    2) Facts ARE liberal ‘talking points’. Lies best left for the ‘other’ side.
    3) Please, pretty please (with a cherry on top) PLEASE let Ted Cruz be the TeaPug nominee for 2016…so that I may have the distinct pleasure of voting against him.

  • Veritas vos Liberabit

    Raffy “Ted” Cruz, a puppet of the Tea Party cult. Concocting an illegal filibuster to give the GOP House of Reps majority time to make changes to H.R. 368 to give themselves absolute monarchical power, thus guaranteeing that the Government shutdown will continue until the defunding of the ACA occurs. With that being history, and the results being known to the public, now the only recourse Teddy has is to vehemently deny it. Typical behavior of those with delusions of Omnipotence. America needs to wake up to these radical extremists that are harming our Country, period!

    • Pipercat

      Oh come on, it was just a long-winded lullaby for his kids.

    • Pipercat

      Just wanted to add, I was in a hurry this morning, your fabulous reference to H.R. 368. The little bit of tyranny included in the resolution basically went unnoticed. Hat on, hat’s off!!

      • Charles Vincent

        To what tyranny are you referring in that bill?(H.R. 368)
        http://beta DOT congress DOT gov/113/bills/hr368/BILLS-113hr368ih DOT pdf
        Clarification if you please.

      • Pipercat

        http://www dot ibtimes dot com/government-shutdown-2013-hr-368-little-rule-change-house-republicans-guaranteed-federal-shutdown

        You should love that liberal site I cited!!! You pot head!!!

      • Charles Vincent

        haha I was like that makes no sense lol.

      • Pipercat

        Shit, I found that one too. That’s for 2012.

    • Charles Vincent

      Hmm filibusters aren’t illegal and never have been.

      “America needs to wake up to these radical extremists that are harming our Country, period!”
      I certainly hope you’re including the mouthbreaters on both sides of that Isle.
      And the ACA well that’s a real piece of horrific legislation, for many reasons but here are a few;
      http://www DOT youtube DOT com/watch?v=n_IODlKV4Ow

      • Veritas vos Liberabit

        A filibuster is done prior to a piece of legislation becoming law, as well as prior to a nominee becoming nominated, not after. Cruz’s filibuster was a time saving fiasco.

      • Charles Vincent

        Maybe so but still not illegal.

      • Veritas vos Liberabit

        So the Senate majority imposed a “nuclear option” in response to House Rule 22, clause 4 and the GOP cries foul. The nuclear option reduces the time consuming of faux filibusters. Note that I changed “Illegal” to “faux”.

      • Charles Vincent

        At least its a more factual assertion. But at least the filibuster wont really bite you in the ass the way a “nuclear Option” will at least according to politico’s who have weighted in on the subject. My question would be what will the progressives, liberals, and Democrats be crying for when the republicans have a majority and use the “nuclear option” to their advantage? They will really only have themselves to blame. Besides the filibuster has been a part of legislative proceedings for pretty much the entirety of this, or whats left of this republic our founders created.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        let us know when (UMMM-YEAH) that happens,,,,,,, dream on kreskin: the tea party is going the way of the WHIG

      • Charles Vincent

        I dont think you’ll need to have me let you know. The whine and cheese will be spewing forth when it occurs.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        this election will change nothing— dem senate: repub house. Obama move forward anyway

      • Charles Vincent

        I don’t claim to know what this mid term election will bring other than it will most likely not be good for the masses in general.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        in the respect of ” status quo” I will agree
        ================================
        ….but it will be fun 2 have FOX “news” replicate the famous karl rove ” Romney wins” audio

      • Stephen Barlow

        Just be a grateful loser andthank the President for having the quality of character not seen in a single Republican since… Bush? nope, Reagan? nope, Ford? hahaha Nixon? GUFFAWW!!!!! Ike? Harding? Coolidge? Hoover? Who was it that Carnegie, Morgan and Rockefeller bought? McKinley. NOPE! 100 years and one one reputable Republican.

        Goldwater (the piss carrier for a racist on a filibuster rampage…) might have possible come the closest to actually having the quality of character and integrity required by the oath of office.

        Because you see, if Obama behaved like Christie, Guantanamo would be holding 187 RED seditionists who voted to cripple the American Government in a time of crisis.

        I would LOVE to see an executive order suspending all salaries for all Congressional staff, including drivers and Secret Servicemen.

        indefinitely. If they fear for their safety, they can hire their own security or change their policy and sTOP being target worthy.

      • Charles Vincent

        Obama has quality? Surely you can’t be serious.
        Well lets ruin the Obama is a golden boy premise you’re asserting. Chomsky is on the left and is most definitely competent in his assessment of Obama in the video clips I provided. Obama is following the status quo and heeding his masters call the corporate entities whose money put him in office.

        http://www DOT youtube DOT com/watch?v=mk8pxyAWTBk

        http://www DOT youtube DOT com/watch?v=n_IODlKV4Ow

        http://www DOT youtube DOT com/watch?v=K3XK2xxR1lA

        http://www DOT youtube DOT com/watch?v=63HNuL2tfNc

        http://www DOT youtube DOT com/watch?v=f5pur4-dfiY

        http://www DOT youtube DOT com/watch?v=oiwAFIgGCkQ

        “I would LOVE to see an executive order suspending all salaries for all
        Congressional staff, including drivers and Secret Servicemen.”

        I concur with this sentiment.

        “Because you see, if Obama behaved like Christie, Guantanamo would be
        holding 187 RED seditionists who voted to cripple the American
        Government in a time of crisis.”

        Obama just kills you with a Drone Without trial.

      • Peter Wills

        Wow, you are one sick, demented, delusional puppy Charles Vincent! Go read the Powell Memo from 1971. Go read Claire Conner’s book on the John Birch Society. Hell, just go read anything other than the drivel you so obviously do. And stop slobbering over the screen whenever Fuax News is on!

      • Charles Vincent

        Hey chief Noam Chomsky is where I got some of my source material on Obama, please call one of the more celebrated left leaning intellectuals delusional so everyone here can laugh at you and ridicule you like the ignorant moron you are. Wahhhhh wahhhhhh he got news from fox you’re pathetic, What kind of cheese can I get you, Shall I call the WAAAHHmbulance as well.

      • Peter Wills

        Noam Chomsky is far from the god you seemingly believe him to be Charles. But go ahead and salivate over his writings Charles.

        Left leaning? Try Libertarian. Libertarianism is just is just an extension of the beliefs of the Right on personal freedoms coupled with some elements of socialism.

        You, sir, are the one showing yourself to be the moron. Unfounded personal attacks seem to be the domain of people like you who use it in place of civil, meaningful and rational discussion. Even your hero Chomsky would likely be appalled at the manner in which you conduct yourself.

        Anyone can read so called intellectual writings but that doesn’t make them an intellectual and never will. Intellectualism comes from within. Some people may be able to learn it but sadly, you are not one of those people Charles.

        Have a good day!

      • Charles Vincent

        He is on the left moron and I will take his word on the subject any day over your opinion you bleating little twat
        Personal attacks? Really?
        You said “Wow, you are one sick, demented, delusional puppy Charles Vincent” and “And stop slobbering over the screen whenever Fuax News is on!”
        So tell me again about Ad Hominem attacks, you ignorant hypocrite. Do us all a favor and shut your pie hole.

      • Peter Wills

        You’re only proving my point over and over Charles so feel free to rant on as much as you like! So now you want to deny someone their First Amendment rights too. That shouldn’t be a surprise either I guess as that is another characteristic trait of bigots like you. Rock on!!

      • Charles Vincent

        HAHAHAHAHA I can violate your first amendment rights lol you are and ignorant moron, do you have to shut up like I told you, is there some unwritten law that forces you too? Piss off you’re mad because you resorted to personal attacks in your first post and I responded in kind to them go eat a dick pal. You’re the only bigot here as evidenced by your ad hominem attack in your very first post.

      • Peter Wills

        Thankfully cretins and bigots like you are not in the White House Charles. I’ve seen how you conduct yourself here. It falls on you not me. Oh, and by the way, when you posted in another comment about something that someone “eluded to,” you should learn proper grammar. The phrase is “alluded to.” But then intellectual wannabes like you would not realize that would you!!

      • Charles Vincent

        Keep telling yourself that chief. You’re still an idiot. You might want to be super careful thought because if Obama stops to quickly you’re liable to break your neck.
        “cretins and bigots like you”
        Nice I see your still pushing that double standard… Ohhh its fine for you to resort to personal attacks but ohh the horror if some one does it to you. Perhaps I should call you a racist hatemonger and steal a page out of your play book. And you still haven’t refuted my original post, probably because you’re a mental midget. Please keep posting calling you names is fun and really the only thing left since you’re incapable of complex thought processes.

      • Peter Wills

        Small things (“calling you names is fun”) amuse small minds. So keep playing your silly games Charles. You’re playing with yourself, or is that by yourself? No, it’s definitely with yourself!!

      • Charles Vincent

        You’re just cheap entertainment you know like a two dollar hooker only not as good. Keep flapping your gums chief.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        agreed—————— and me agreeing with Charlie is weird

      • Charles Vincent

        Hola como esta senior Tegu.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        Zimbabwe!!!

      • Charles Vincent

        Lo que usted no entiende español?
        Tal vez usted necesita un poco más de cerveza.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        non tiendo espanol de bugarito

      • Charles Vincent

        Wie wäre es mit Deutsch Herr tegu?

      • white trash religious teaparty

        ach du liber!!!! nein
        ….parlez vous pig latin?

      • Charles Vincent

        latin de porc en français? Oui, oui, je le fais.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        still mastering the complexities of American English- but do NOt wish to be confused with some bovaristic pipe smoking comiconomenclaturaist who’s mid-sentence inhalations could be confused with a haughty untracrepidarian bereft of presenting any ostensible social “calafacient” capability.

      • Charles Vincent

        SOOOOO no pig Latin or beer then?

      • white trash religious teaparty

        naaaah,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, mastering the “cary grant/ james bond” lexiphania seems to procure higher intellect –and bustier–women.. DRINK??? yoo hoo’s and A&W birch beer for me!!! ( fresh grapefruit and welchs grape juice also RULE)
        no drugs of any sort—-did that crap in my teens and 20’s

      • Charles Vincent

        So you’re a bombastic speaker with a penchant for fizzy drinks and fruit juices.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        fizzies? I like rootin tootin raspberry,,,,,,,,,,,,,

      • Charles Vincent

        Well I had you pegged wrong. I figured you for grape nehi (not sure if that’s correct spelling) or prehaps orange/grape crush.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        never got into those,,,,,,,,,,,,didn’t even do coke/pepsi–
        yoo hoos and birch beer please
        ———————————————
        good cream soda in a pinch

      • Charles Vincent

        I am a pepsi guy its my only vice if we dont include computer games or gaming in general. cream soda is way to sweet for me. I do how ever like sarsaparilla and dads root beer on occasion.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        fresh squeezed PINK grapefruit juice,,,,,
        dads is OK: mix some 1/2 & 1/2 in it!

      • Charles Vincent

        Half dads half sarsaparilla? or half in half creamer?

        How about just half a grapefruit with a pinch of salt and a spoon?

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        From what I’ve read, it really wasn’t a filibuster.

      • Charles Vincent

        I just think its much to do about nothing really.

        And it seems people agree that it might not have even been one.

      • Stephen Barlow

        That was about as severe a perversion of the Senate Rules as possible.

      • Charles Vincent

        Prove it then.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Reading Dr Seuss. To NO ONE as a quorum call wasn’t even made.

      • Charles Vincent

        If memory serves it doesn’t matter what the person speaking talks about or reads it only matters that they keep speaking. If I remember correctly one senator wore a diaper so he could let it go while he performed his filibuster.

        “1. Steam baths and a surreptitious urine bucket: Thurmond, who completed the longest federal filibuster in US history (24 hours, 18 minutes) in 1957, took the minimalist route with a bucket. His aides set it up in the cloakroom so that Thurmond could pee while keeping one foot on the Senate floor.

        But even before that, Thurmond took daily steam baths to prepare for the epic speech, to make it easier for his body to absorb, rather than expel, fluid.

        Thurmond also got lucky: After speaking for about three hours, Arizona Republican Barry Goldwater asked him to temporarily yield the floor for an insertion in the Congressional Record. This gave Thurmond a few precious minutes to make his one and only trip to the restroom.”

      • Stephen Barlow

        True enough. So you are an ally of the Do Noting Party. Bully for you. Your mother must be so proud.

        It also explains why Goldwater was creamed so badly in 2 different election bids. He can’t even carry water for a racist, he is only worthy to carry his piss.

        Cruz and Paul aren’t even worthy of THAT!

      • Charles Vincent

        Actually I am an ally of the truth and the truth is the Cruz filibuster like it or not was conforming to the rules on filibusters. As for do nothing take a look at the democrats.
        I watched c-span yesterday and well instead of talking about how to grow the economy and lower the unemployment rate(something the government can’t do) they were talking about more gun control and global warming that’s do nothing politics right now.

        Goldwater? What does he have to do with anything that’s happening now? Please stay on topic. Aside from the helping hand he gave Strom Thurmond during his filibuster.(intentional or not)

      • Stephen Barlow

        You are actually idiot enough to believe your own bullsh*t!

        Even AFTER a cloture vote? Even after the debate time was limited to 30 hours, and Cruz STOLE IT ALL form the other 99 Senators? Even though he was guaranteed to LOSE by his own party? you STILL support his ‘fauxlibuster’?

        Then WHY is he vigorously DENYING that he had any hand in the Government shutdown? Even HE can’t abide his own behavior.

        Shouting fire in a crowded theater is not a crime either, even if it results in deaths. Let’s put THAT on you headstone.

      • Charles Vincent

        I get it you don’t like it but he didn’t violate any rule sorry that upsets you. How is stating he didn’t violate senate rules supporting his filibuster? I don’t care if he’s denying his filibuster shutdown the government that is off topic and a poor attempt by you to obfuscate my point from my original post which is he broke no rules and that filibusters are not illegal as the one poster implied.

      • Stephen Barlow

        The cloture vote IS the rule and Cruz should have been censured for breaking it.

        You seem to have the enormous hardon to put Ted on a pedestal…

        And his denial of his documented action is PROOF that even HE knows HOW WRONG he was. Why aren’t you smart enough to admit your ignorance?

        GOD MAN!!! How stupid was your sperm donor to make you less intelligent than TED CRUZ?

      • Charles Vincent

        Had he broken any rules the democrats would have censured him. Considering no one and I mean no one in the senate or the media reported on any attempt to do so the only logical conclusion is he broke no rule.

        I don’t really give a crap about him or any other mouth breathing legislators as they all lie to the public at large.

        I was not and am not debating whether he is denying anything please stop fabricating straw man arguments because you weren’t right about him breaking the rules of filibustering.

        “GOD MAN!!! How stupid was your sperm donor to make you less intelligent than TED CRUZ?”
        Ad hominem attack, game, set match I win you lose.

      • Stephen Barlow

        NO!. For the same reason Boenher is not impeachable for Sedition. There are NOT enough votes. There are not 60 votes against crashing the Government and defaulting on the debt to censure Cruz. THAT is why it’s a nonissue.

        Guilt has NOTHING to do with it. Being WRONG is the jackasses trademark!

        As far as the complete no show to the Ted Show… THAT pretty much explains itself.

      • Charles Vincent

        Hmm First we wouldn’t have defaulted on the debt that has been well reported on. Not raising the debt ceiling would have prevented the government from incurring new debt.

        Second I dont care if you think he was wrong this wasn’t my argument in the first place. And I also don’t care if people didn’t show up its irrelevant to the fact.

      • Stephen Barlow

        you REALLY only watch FPN. Foxpropagnda Network.

        Once the shutdown stomped what little respect America had for your GOP stonewallers, the KNEW that defaulting on the debt would only be political suicide.

        THEY were hell bent on doing exactly that in their race hate power game with the President. What kind of leadership is a no details plan? What kind of policy is absolutely not! What kind of motivation does a GOPer need to derail the Government they claim to be a Patriot to… simply because they can’t accept that a POOR BLACK KID can do a better job than any and all of them buttlinked together?

      • Charles Vincent

        This explains why the debt ceiling wouldn’t have caused a default;
        http://news DOT investors DOT com/ibd-editorials/101013-674629-treasury-secretarys-threats-over-debt-ceiling-arent-based-on-facts.htm

        It was a giant scare tactic and you fell for it you can find similar articles for the other debt ceiling and budget issues from the Clinton administration and from the Reagan administration.

        “What kind of leadership is a no details plan?”

        The same kind that Obama is currently perpetrating and which professor Chomsky related in one of the videos I linked earlier in this conversation.

        “What kind of motivation does a GOPer need to derail the Government”
        The same as the democrats motivation when they did the same thing to Reagan over the budget.
        Here is an article talking about Government shutdowns since carter;
        http://www DOT dailyfinance DOT com/2013/10/12/10-fun-facts-about-the-government-shutdown/

        You can easily find this information on the Dot gov site as well and with more detail than the article. Shutdowns aren’t new and they have not ever been the end of the world. Note that the February 7 debt ceiling deadline is looming and there is little to no coverage on it. Why do you think that is?

        Incidentally the credit down grade the US suffered happened 2 months before the debt ceiling debate happened.

        http://www DOT washingtonpost DOT com/business/economy/sandp-considering-first-downgrade-of-us-credit-rating/2011/08/05/gIQAqKeIxI_story DOT html

        Notice none of my sources are from fox news , I do this on purpose because it shoots your whole argument in the butt, and additionally I use Chomsky to reinforce my assertions because he is a left leaning intellectual that’s smarter than you and probably 98% of the other people who write content for this site or who post on that content.

        Another piece of advice for you try not to be blinded by anger it muddles your thinking and prevents you from making any kind of intelligible and coherent argument, and last stop buying into and following a political ideology so blindly. I promise if you stop swilling the koolaid they serve you, you will see the world a whole lot clearer.

      • Stephen Barlow

        I’m not angry. you are annoying. wOuld be nice if you showed the potential for at least ONE original thought of your own.

      • Charles Vincent

        I have plenty of original thoughts it just so happens that some of them concur with Mr. Chomsky and the relevant facts I provided pertaining to this discussion. That’s how debates work I provide facts to confirm my assertions or to provide a rebuttal to the assertions of others to the contrary.
        On the not angry with me subject I beg to differ.
        Your name calling indicates plenty of anger and a lacking of ability to verbalize whatever point you wanted to make.

      • Stephen Barlow

        YOu MADE IT your sole argument. What other posts have you puked up this week?

        you are a one trick hooker.

      • Charles Vincent

        Lets recap then shall we;

        Here is my original argument concerning the filibuster;
        “Hmm filibusters aren’t illegal and never have been.”

        You are the one that wanted to drag in tangents that had nothing to do with my original point and though I rebutted them you were the initiator of off topic tangents.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Sorry you can’t accept your failed hypothesis. When confronted with the DETAILS of the circumstance, you bailed at manning up. I feel really sorry for the people you meet in the soup kitchen. They deserve far better conversation than you.

        Cruz violated cloture and the ONLY reason he was not censured is that no one came in over the weekend to waste their time with it. No real harm, no foul… no call.

        I gave you the rules, straight from the Parlimentarian… you still didn’t get a speck of truth on you.

      • Charles Vincent

        First your link does support your theory

        “Cruz violated cloture and the ONLY reason he was not censured is that no
        one came in over the weekend to waste their time with it. No real harm,
        no foul… no call.”

        Cloture is;
        “The only procedure by which the Senate can vote to place a time limit on consideration of a bill or
        other matter, and thereby overcome a filibuster. Under the cloture rule(Rule XXII), the Senate may limit consideration of a pending matter to 30 additional hours, but only by vote of three-fifths of the full Senate, normally 60 votes.”

        Where are the votes for cloture? That’s right they hadn’t happened yet. And were scheduled to happen until two days after the Cruz Filibuster that apparently people can’t even agree on whether it was actually a filibuster.

        IF they wanted him censured they had enough votes both democrats and republicans;

        http://www DOT businessinsider DOT com/ted-cruz-defund-obamacare-strategy-senate-cloture-vote-2013-9

        Last my original post was about the filibuster being an accepted parliamentary procedure and not an illegal procedure the OP I posted to changed it to Faux filibuster in a reply.

        You are the one that went off on a crazy tirade about Cruz and his filibuster being against some rule that would have happened two days after the Cruz horse and pony show.

        He clearly didn’t violate cloture because the vote for cloture had not happened and it needed 60 votes to pass when it was to be up for a vote. Sorry to burst you bubble but none and I mean none of the articles I found on any media site mentioned anything about him breaking any rules during his long winded speech.

      • Stephen Barlow

        SO then, if you are correct, the Cruz rambling, psychotic blather about Green Eggs and Ham was a completely purposeless excursion of a deranged and deluded mind determined to waste more and more of the taxpayers time, money and patience?

        So now you re claiming it was a legitimate fillibuster? Because he did it BEFORE a cloture vote?

        Please explain WHY he stopped at 30 hours of total ‘debate’?

        I really don’t expect you to man up and manage this, solely based on your evasions of the past few days of stalking me over a non issue.

        Seriously Charlie diaper rash, if it weren’t so amusing watching your mental patient gymnastics as you try and justify a Ted Cruz moment… so ridiculously humorous to see the extent with which you attempt to justify the rantings of a double talking political anarchist of a publicity hound…

        you DO understand that Ted Cruz himself even denies any part in the Government Shutdown and that leaves you here, in public, relentlessly defending the honor of the Texas Two Step Champion hallucinator’s invisible friend? BEcause other than you, that 6 foot tall rabbit named Harvey you are so determined to worship… NO ONE cares.

        Thank you for being such a DUPE. But I am finished with you. Please don’t expect another reply to your nonsense.

      • Charles Vincent

        “SO then, if you are correct, the Cruz rambling, psychotic blather about Green Eggs and Ham was a completely purposeless excursion of a deranged and deluded mind determined to waste more and more of the taxpayers time, money and patience?”

        In the cursory research I did to find out details that’s one possibility if you call it something other than a filibuster. Still not my original point but I entertained some of your assertions when I did the research.

        So now you re claiming it was a legitimate filibuster?
        Because he did it BEFORE a cloture vote?

        There is nothing in the rules about doing it before the cloture vote that I could find but like I said I dont care either way.

        “you DO understand that Ted Cruz himself even denies any part in the Government Shutdown and that leaves you here, in public, relentlessly defending the honor of the Texas Two Step Champion hallucinator’s invisible friend? Because other than you, that 6 foot tall rabbit named Harvey you are so determined to worship… NO ONE cares.”

        I dont care is he is Satan himself this whole thing it a nontroversy to steal a phrase.

        You said “That was about as severe a perversion of the Senate Rules as possible.”

        To which I replied “Prove it” and you haven’t proven anything. In fact the information I have found disproves what you stated whether it was a filibuster or just a long winded rant.

        “Thank you for being such a DUPE. But I am finished with you. Please don’t expect another reply to your nonsense.”
        If I had a penny for all the times I’ve heard someone like you say something this asinine I would be a multimillionaire. At least you are consistent at being long on Ad Hominem attacks and short on facts.

      • Stephen Barlow

        I sent you the Senate RULES, straight from the Parlimentarian. Not My fault you can’t read. I gave up waiting for you to do exactly that. For all practical purposes I shit in your mustache. if you wanna refuse to smell it, comb it out or wash up before you eat… that is all on you.

        My job was done when I wiped My ass, flushed the paper and washed My hands of you. But you keep curling that crap mop like Snidley Whiplash believing the self delusion that you have scored some incredibly important point.

        It is SO EASY to OWN a mope like you. All I have to do is NEVER… EVER… tell you what you so desperately want to hear.

      • Charles Vincent

        “I sent you the Senate RULES, straight from the Parlimentarian. Not My
        fault you can’t read. I gave up waiting for you to do exactly that. For
        all practical purposes I shit in your mustache. if you wanna refuse to
        smell it, comb it out or wash up before you eat… that is all on you.”

        I read the rules they did not disallow what Cruz did.

        If they had the press and the democrats and republicans that espoused anger over the whole nontroversy would have censured him period.

        “My job was done when I wiped My ass, flushed the paper and washed My hands of you. But you keep curling that crap mop like Snidley Whiplash
        believing the self delusion that you have scored some incredibly important point.
        It is SO EASY to OWN a mope like you. All I have to do is NEVER… EVER… tell you what you so desperately want to hear.”

        This whole paragraph smacks of your own desperate need to be right here even though you’re sadly so incorrect not only about the procedure and trying to create a red herring out of my original post. I dont do this for points and its sad that you’re so small that you do it for that reason. In fact the only thing here that makes me sad is you proving me right via this comment of yours;
        “But I am finished with you. Please don’t expect another reply to your nonsense.”
        I was hoping you had the brass to prove my assertion wrong sadly that isn’t the case good luck with your petty points and believing you said something meaningful. Have a nice day chief.

      • Stephen Barlow

        GLad your wank hand has a groove in it for that wart on your dick. Happy wanking.

        and because I am right about you never getting to hear what you are desperate for… LMAO…

        you will reply more faux pride outrage at being dismissed as a crank pot crack head.

      • Charles Vincent

        Actually I am finding your retorts more an more humorous and my mission now is just to see if I can get you to burst a vein and stroke out. It’s fun getting you to froth at the mouth like some rabid dog over really nothing.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Mission Accomplished. I froth because I pop a fresh beer whenever your are wrong. My sponsor says I need a meeting.

      • Charles Vincent

        I need a picture of that vein in your forehead so I can gauge how long it will be before it bursts. Nah perhaps it would be better for you to drown yourself in that beer can. So when can I expect a pic of that bulging vein in your forehead I need it so I can set the odds on the time it takes you to stroke out. I have a running pool going on it as I type this. Three days is the longest so far, and 20 minutes is the shortest. Me I give it a day and a half tops, hope your obamacare has kicked in wouldn’t want you to be uninsured, aneurisms are expensive to fix.

      • Stephen Barlow

        I am glad for you. Now go buy your three inch weenie a suitable bun to shove it up.

      • Charles Vincent

        OOHHHH such a stinging indictment…Did you sit in a corner and fap after you posted that?

        Ad hominem attack, game, set match I win you lose.

      • Stephen Barlow

        You brought Goldwater up turdbrain. YOU made him the topic.

      • Charles Vincent

        No I didn’t I brought up Strom Thurmond Goldwater being mentioned is a non issue my point was about what senators did to prepare for doing a filibuster.

      • Charles Vincent

        The basic rules and history of the filibuster;
        http://www DOT senate DOT gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Filibuster_Cloture DOT htm

        Apparently one senator used to recite Shakespeare during his filibusters.

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        Yeah, because it shoulda been single payor.
        (How you been, dude?)

      • Charles Vincent

        work, kids and you?
        I am skeptical of single payer although much less than I am of the ACA. I think single payer has a population issue.

  • Gary Menten

    Dear Ted,
    In case you haven’t noticed, Bob Schieffer is pretty much the house conservative at CBS. He’s a good journalist, but just about the last guy at CBS I would accuse of repeating liberal talking points. Big fail there.

    Speaking of failure, I watched the interview, and you pretty much failed to answer a single question put to you. Instead, you answered imaginary questions that were never asked. That’s okay though, because the only the imaginary world is the only one in which you’ll ever occupy the White House.

    • TRUTH is liberal talking points to CRUZ. He is delusional. Read all about his father and their plans. They believe he is one of the four kings…some weird version of Christianity. . Probably a cult.

    • Stephen Barlow

      Moreso than Chris Wallace? NOpe!!!

  • Avatar

    Ted Cruz’s endless rhetorics are worth of billion of insults being hurled at him like an avalanche.

  • Jo Clark

    “Which is a terrifying thought considering he’s quickly proving himself to be quite possibly insane.”

    Sounds like just garden variety liberal rhetoric, but is it? Seriously, I’m wondering if there isn’t some true mental illness going on here with the likes of Cruz, Bachmann, Gohmert, and a variety of other GOP reps.

    This isn’t normal behavior, folks. These people come in two varieties: The kind who actually believe what they spew — To me, Gohmert and Bachmann fall into that category. There is the kind who is craftily doing this for political gain, which may or may not be Cruz … we can’t tell yet. I’m not sure it matters.

    If he’s doing it because he believes it, well, there’s a big problem that is quite obvious. If he’s doing this on purpose for gain, isn’t there also a problem in the utter lack of plausibility of the stuff he spews? He’s not stupid, yet he utters this stuff that defies belief. He’s well aware that public record/video/media can easily prove he’s lying, yet he does it anyway. Is that really normal?

  • Jim

    The truth is that the average Republican believes lies. It’s inconvenient to believe the truth. It hurts. To believe a lie is easy and when it supports your position (that is based on lies, half-truths and fiction) all the better.

    • Charles Vincent

      The truth is that the average Democrat or Republican believes lies. It’s
      inconvenient to believe the truth. It hurts. To believe a lie is easy
      and when it supports your position (that is based on lies, half-truths
      and fiction) all the better.

      There I fixed that for you Jim.

  • Edward Krebbs

    Well, after throwing off the French Monarchy in the name of egalite liberte etc, the French decided they a member of the Corsican nobility to lead their country. How’d Napoleon work out for them ?

  • Stephen Barlow

    Read “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest”. The movie is great, but the book explains what dealing with crazy is like.

    • white trash religious teaparty

      michelle Bachmann is the nurse

      • Stephen Barlow

        She sure ain’t the indian!

      • white trash religious teaparty

        he was great in all his movies—- sadly gone

      • Stephen Barlow

        yeah.

  • Parker McArthur

    What’s really sad about Teddykins is that he doesn’t seem to understand that there is audio AND video of him saying, “we want to defund Obamacare and shut down the government if necessary to do it” over and over and over from the minute he got to D.C. Maybe not in those exact words, but the sentiment was the same. Anybody who reads “Green Eggs and Ham” during a fake filibuster and totally fails to comprehend the message of that very simple story needs to go back to elementary school.

    I put some of the onus on this delusional man’s presence, tactics and motives on the people who elected him.

  • White True Patriot

    Communist liberals are like the Jews that started both world wars and told lies about Germany. They must be exterminated!

  • surfjac

    “It wasn’t me” is an excuse a child gives you when he breaks a vase.