Texas is Denying Access to Health Care for Tens of Thousands of Veterans

rick-perry-2In the world of the Republican voter, the words “fact” and “reality” don’t often matter a great deal.  I can’t count the times I’ve presented something that’s been fact checked by any number of fact checking organizations, just to have a right-winger basically tell me that they don’t trust those kinds of sites.  And why is it they don’t trust these sites?  Well, because they’re “often liberally biased,” of course.

That’s the “go to” line for Republicans.  If all else fails, and facts seem to discredit their ideological beliefs, just call it “liberally biased” and dismiss it entirely.  Because that makes sense.

So I’d imagine they’ll become extremely dismissive when hearing that Politifact deemed a statement by Texas state Democratic chairman Gilberto Hinojosa as “Mostly True” concerning Rick Perry’s decision to block Medicaid expansion in the state, which will result in 40,000 veterans not being able to receive health care.

But that’s the thing about reality — it’s real whether Republicans want to believe in it or not.

Granted, the “Mostly True” label by Politifact means there are some very slight discrepancies.  For this particular statement, they said Mr. Hinojosa wasn’t 100% accurate because his numbers weren’t exactly spot-on (they used census data to come up with their figures of 42,771 or 48,900 veterans that wouldn’t receive health benefits) and the fact that some of these veterans might currently qualify for Medicaid or VA benefits already.

But Mr. Hinojosa’s statement was mostly factual in that due to Rick Perry’s partisan politics, thousands of veterans (and low-income Americans in general) will be denied health care coverage.

So while you saw the “outrage” from many conservatives during the government shutdown at the thought of veterans being denied access to war memorials that had been closed, they seem perfectly fine denying health care to probably hundreds of thousands of veterans (and millions of others across the country), because they would rather play partisan politics when it comes to the Affordable Care Act — instead of doing what they can within each of their states to make sure the health care law works.

Especially as it relates to our veterans and low-income Americans.

And while some of these veterans might qualify for benefits through the VA, let’s not pretend like Republicans don’t often support legislation which reduces those benefits as well.  Yet while cutting those benefits, many Republicans will then point to instances of mediocre care our veterans receive as a prime example of why government being involved in our health care is a bad thing.

As usual, Republicans help cause a problem, then complain about the very problem they were a huge factor in creating.

So while politicians in Texas like Rick Perry and Ted Cruz will stand there and pretend to care about our veterans, they’re also two of the biggest opponents against “Obamacare” and have done everything possible to sabotage the law.  And in doing so, they’ve prevented access to health benefits for tens of thousands of our veterans in Texas alone.

It’s a truly pathetic situation where Republicans continue to put tea party politics ahead of what’s best for the American people.

Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Mike Williams

    It seems to me a solution that Perry/Cruz would love would be to have the veterans get their health care needs met at the memorials.

  • Mike Hendricks

    they can ignore facts if they like=but they risk looking like karl rove in the ohio elections=uhoh

  • thomasbone63

    I’m a veteran and I get my healthcare thru the VA. I don’t need the affordable health care.

    • despair

      So.. The hell with everyone else?

      • thomasbone63

        No man, that’s not what i’m saying. I’m saying veterans have options. They don’t need the Texas Governor or the affordable care act to receive medical benefits. Now if anyone who don’t like my words of wisdom, can kiss where the sun don’t shine.

      • Carol

        yes because All vets live near a VA facility right? I know that tricare just kicked people off of tricare prime if they dont live within 50 miles of military facility. Which means bigger copays. My husband and I are lucky enough to be able to afford the tricare for our family after he retired and we happen to live right next to ft campbell. But I know many who got that cut from prime to standard and are now paying higher medical costs. Not to mention the family members I have that drive 3 hours to get to a VA hospital because thats the only place they can AFFORD to go to the dr at.

      • paulharrington

        I believe the VA has clinics in a lot of smaller cities. My daughter is a psychologist and she has been assigned to clinics in casper wy, and flagstaff az. have them check with the hospital admin.

      • thomasbone63

        That’s what I’m talking about.

      • Carol

        yes it does. I am well aware of this fact. And also that most states do not have that many facilities and the ones they do are so overcrowded and overbooked its almost impossible to be seen. Also that does the family members who are on the retiree tricare no good as they can not be seen by the VA. Also in a lot of places like here at ft campbell, the clinics on post will not see vets and they are forced onto the economy and into driving all the way to nashville. We are allowed to use the lab, radiology and have surgery here but thats about it. So in a lot of cases extended medicaid would be a huge benefit to vets and their families if they were not fortunate enough to be able to retire, as their family gets no health insurance then. At least if they retire they can pay for tricare if they can afford it.

      • Army Vet Chic

        Okay. So basically your complaint is not about veterans being denied healthcare but their family members? How misleading of you to claim you are fighting for the vets. Stop using veterans for your partisan bullshit. Sick of it.

      • Army Vet Chic

        Note: there are Community Outreach Clinics in a whole lot of small towns throughout Texas and other states. You don’t have to live right next to a VA Hospital to receive care. I know because I got to one of those clinics because I live in a rural area.
        Anyone who is complaining about Thomasbone63’s comment doesn’t know what they’re talking about and is using veterans to try to make a partisan point. By the way, what makes any of you think that veterans want medicaid or the ACA? We already know what its like to get government healthcare. The govt has no clue how to treat patients.

      • Ric

        The government is not treating patients through the ACA. The ACA is about creating an affordable and equitable insurance availability. The government, however, is responsible for the treatment you receive through the VA. Don’t mix apples and oranges.

      • Sue

        My husband is also a vet. He did not qualify unless he lost his ins. and showed hardship. Not all vets are able to receive health care. Young vets do not receive until they are older. You must have met certain requirements. In addition to vets, disabled, poor, children and seniors could have been added with the expansion.

      • thomasbone63

        Sue, i’m sorry that i’m answering you reply 2 days late. However, if your husband had an honorable discharge, then he has 100% benefits.

    • gemma liar

      sounds like U will be a perfect tea party imbecile,,,,,lets get campaigning 4 your presidential terms

      • thomasbone63

        Fool, let me get down to your level. If you have a problem understanding simple logic then that on your dumb ass. It racist like you who wave the confederate flag in front of a Black President home in front of his wife and kids that really makes your point. Let me tell your ass something. You can’t use those racist republican talking points to me. I’m not buy republican bullsh&&. As I said, veterans do not have to rely on the affordable health care act. We and justifiable so have earned veteran benefits. Just saying

      • paulharrington

        It only took you a few minutes too play the race card and decent into the language of the gutter. May I ask just was you’re job/MOS in the military??

      • thomasbone63

        If you need to know, did not have a mos because I was not in the Army. I had a AFSC because I was in the Air Force. The job was Air Traffic Controller during the Vietnam era if that makes a f*&*^&^ing difference to you.

      • gemma liar

        wonder we lost so many airborne vehicles!! U obviously act well b4 U look!

      • thomasbone63

        Were you or are you a veteran? Do you have war time experience? If I was a betting man, I would say you were a bed wetter and was not fit to join. Anyway, don’t speak about things you know nothing about. How do I know you know nothing? You sound like a punk ass fool.

      • gemma liar

        hey smelly shitbag,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I would luv 2 have ur old BADDASS in front of me– for MONEY: but sadly we cannot meet as Im not going to some scumbag region of America where losers such as U live ( im a punk ass in south FLA) I have NOTHING but TOTAL respect for the men and women who are stupid enough to get shot at for the lousy leaders we have in Washington; that being said U evidently aren’t smart enough to see that all the people U are trashing here AGREE with you that Obama is the best—-as U cannot see this and want to continue being a N*GGAR ( yes ,,,you are a N*GGAR) we will treat U like the racist crybaby U are. NOTE: Obama,,,micheal Jordan,,,oprah,,,,denzel Washington are NOT “N*GGARS” but YOU sir ARE A N*GGAR. N*GGARS are NOT a color,,,but a loser close minded crybaby who wants to think his way is the only way,,,plenty of W#HITE N*GGARS and latino N*GGSARS around,,,but since I am ripping your smelly skin off here I will just tell U that U are indeed a KNIIIGHAR– so no send back your smelly flatfooted response to us who agreed ( at first anyway) with you; now we want U to go to Rhodesia and tell everyone how great African “culture” is

      • thomasbone63

        Now the white ass wants to play the race card. Now the real white ass is standing up. Fool, I would f**&&k you up any fu*&*&*king day of the freaking week. You poor ass son of a Bi&*&&&tch. If you don’t know what the hell you are talking about, then keep your dumb ass off these sites.

      • gemma liar

        me 6’3 215 17% body fat with REAL weight training,,,years of LEAGUE basketball and surfing/scuba since I was 12….you? probably some VERY overweigh lardass who USED to be able to throw a punch and now nis so out of condition U wouldnt be able to touch me as im too quick. go to church,,,have some whiskey and tell me how impressive U are in your banal retirement. If U are /were a true badd ass U wouldn’t have to TELL us,,,,,,, smelly is TRULY as smelly does

      • thomasbone63

        Are you a gambler?

      • paulharrington

        I,m familiar with the AFSC. I also had one for 21.7 years. I was a aerial photographer flying in aircraft build by the lowest bidder. You use the term “Vietnam era”. Anytime in SEA?? Did you get shot at during that era? Maybe we chatted on the 225-400 and 138-144 mhz ranges.. Keep up the good work. Your command of Her Majesty’s language is outstanding.

      • gemma liar

        he was a dumb fuck in the military,,,,,as evidenced by his retort towards me( I hope U like MY replyto him)

      • thomasbone63

        I am a retired professional, however I remember one thing my TI Sargent told me in basic training. “When i’m having Sunday dinner with the family for the first time from boot camp, the first thing out of my mouth will be to pass “the mf potatoes” and you want to know something. He was right.

      • Cathryn Sykes

        Do you understand that you have completely confused people who would otherwise agree with you? The article was not just about vets. You chime in to say that vets are fine. Someone says “What about everyone else?” and you start making noises as though you don’t give a damn about anyone else, topped off by nasty slams at the person who asked the question. How are we to interpret that except that you’re a typical GOTPer? But you’re not! You are supporting the president. Did it ever occur to you that people who are supporting the ACA are doing the same thing? You are now accusing people who are supporting the ACA of racism and hating the President! What a mess, and caused by your initial sarcasm!

      • thomasbone63

        Cathryn Sykes, do me a favor, don’t play me. The title of this conversation is as follows: “Texas is denying healthcare for tens of thousand of Veterans” Don’t try to make the subject into something that suits your point. Guess what Cathryn, I understand elementary writing. Yeah, I respect and support the President of the United States. Unlike people like you who have no problem waving an insulting confederate flag in front of his home. Lets face facts, this was never about the affordable care act. Its always been about a Black family living in the White House. Cathryn, its ok for you to come out the closet now.

      • gemma liar

        He accused me of same thing- which means he is a white hating smelly Nubian clown,,,,so lets all remind him the F*CKING war is over—————except in his limited ( yes : LIMITED) mind

      • thomasbone63

        HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, you don’t realize how the laughter is hurting my chest. I know you people on this site is some crazy MFs. You see my photo and it looks white to you. You guys are hilarious. Thank you for making my day.

      • gemma liar

        about as white as jay-Z……………… but that African man is accomplished: unlike your low IQ skull fracture. I love how smelly offal such as you get caught making a TOTAL fool of himself accusing me— and others –as white racists who hate OBAMA,,,and when we let U know U are wrong U proceed to stink up the place further. smelly is as smelly does. U cannot help mit as your parents – especially ur overweight flatfooted mamma– didn’t know how to be a parent

      • Cathryn Sykes

        He’s an arrogant, chip-on-the-shoulder-jerk. But you–“white hating smelly Nubian clown?–are a racist. Pure and simple.

      • Cathryn Sykes

        Registered Democrat. Democratic Precinct Chair, Democratic Election Judge. Walked the streets knocking on doors during 2008 and manned the phones asked people to vote for Obama. Did the same in 2012. And this, living in Texas! If you’ll read my later posts, you’ll see how all this misunderstanding happened….and largely as a result of your arrogantly insulting people for daring to ask you a few simple questions that you immediately took as a personal attack! You, sir, are a grade A arrogant jerk! And that is NOT a slam at President Obama, the ACA, veterans or anyone but you!

      • gemma liar

        heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy idiot,,,heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy idiot!!!! I Hate HATE hate the tea party white trash scumbags,,,and YOU think Ima regressive republican???????? I am now hoping U join them( tea party trash) as we liberal centrists do NOT need oligophrenials such as your Neanderthal ass here— U stupid f*cking ass wipe! U smelly atavistic myopic cretin! I TOTLAAY LOVE Obama and all that he reporesents,,,I wanna play basketball with him as I can shoot near-equalo with BOTH hands from 25 ft into the painted area ( more range righthanded,,,,) U are a total idiot f*cker– Don’t lay that VETERENS crap on me as MANY of your WHITE southern scumbag VETS blamed Obama ( not the HOUSE) for the govt shutdown. stupid vets— stupid Undereducated white trash vetes. Go boitch at them U aging shitbag,,,,,GOD!!! whoever gave U a “brain” handed U the mind of a TEGU lizard,,,,

      • thomasbone63

        When you have nothing intelligent to say you rely on stupidity. You’ve just proved to everyone on this site that you are uneducated, probably trailer trash, probably need the affordable care act more then anyone else on this site but tell me, your pride won’t let you accept it.

      • gemma liar

        sorry O mashed potato man,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, im a self employed chef who has more intellect and awareness than U could dream of- “trailer park trash” –that’s what smelly zimbabwes such as you call whitey when U have to cry a little louder. No trailer here— condo in pompano bch FL one block from the beach: 3 cars ( two plus work van) and I don’t drink or smoke,,,don’t do drugs,,,need NO health care and I do NOT touch ‘poor people” food such as corn,,,potatos and fried chicken. U probably LUV ur whiskey and go faithfully each sunday to a tax free house of atavistic superstition ( SEE: loser christian church) so praise jeeeesus and pay our tithe to the ripoff “faith” u are stupid enough to acquiesce to

      • thomasbone63

        Hey Mr. Liar, glad for the warning. If only you can tell me what restaurant allows you to cook for them, I would be sure to avoid the place. Poor people eat corn, potatoes and fried chicken? Then I think that’s a good thing, because that mean that poor family is not a hungry family. God forbid, if they had to depend on you for something to eat. You are definitely a credit to your profession. I hate the state of Florida so chances of eating your nasty ass food is nile to none. God Bless the people that survive your so call food.

      • gemma liar

        brilliant comeback there ,,,,,BYTHEWAY: Ur intellect oversaw the Inability to “see” that I wrote SELF employed chef…..SELF employed denotes NOT working for anyone as an institutional BOSS ; ergo your limited scope regarding EATING out is forgiven here. U hate florida? GOOD! less stench here with your omission geographically. U probably enjoy loser states with terrible weather,,,,, NO beaches,,,,, shattered highways and an overwhelming preponderance of backward scumbag churches. “praise jesus”. Poor does NOT infer a lack of numerical income: it means POOR in education as corn is useless ( except for atrace of phosphorus) potatoes are totally useless ( starch to fill a suckers tummie) and anything fried is SOOOO indicative of a healthy lifestyle. Don’t forget the grits (UGGGH) and cornbread ( tasty; but hard to Digest) I prefer swordfish and tuna and chicken BREAT ( so versatile !!!) with my vegetable intake fueled by asparagus; onion/garlic/peppers ( red best) and total yummies such as broccoli and cauliflower ( raw please) with Zuccini and raw beets ( steamed ok). Now as U know my skills as a chef allows my WHITE TRASH TRAILER PARK self to use REAL spices to supreme advantage to also utilizing fruits and other items U probably hate(ergo your steatopygous physique). So; to summerize— U continue to slowly decay into a physical no0n-entity and remember that “GOD” loves you! I will continue to keep it simple: health and lotsa exercise ( with ONLY those slender BIG chested ( no plastic) women who seem to enjoy adorning my bed) as well as a business model which is 100% CASH,,,,,, in this upcoming south florida winter which nugatory monoliths such as you have learned (??) to “hate”

      • thomasbone63

        It took you a long time to come back with this BS. Let me make it short and simple so even you will understand. I don’t like the state of Florida, totally dislike your Governor, your Attorney General, your Senator (Rubio) and your restaurant. I don’t hate anyone. I will speak my mind, because I don’t fear anyone. I stand by everything I’ve said today and will go to my grave believing what I’ve said. I’m no phoney. Will not laugh in your face and talk behind your back. What you see is what you get. I don’t play games. If you are fortunate not to be trailer trash, then you should stop talking like trailer trash. Don’t knock people’s diet that are less fortunate then you. They are glad to be able to feed their family. You are not that high and mighty. Think about it.

      • gemma liar

        hey MOBATE— I also hate the republican regressives, I also hate idiots such as you that STILL cannot ( or WILLnot) see that I was agreeing with you when U decided to castigate me by your ineptitude in NOT reading what I wrote. also– ( AGAIN) I do NOT have a “restaurant” as I am aself employed chef who CONTRACTS kitchens. kinda tough for U to figure out? or has church and alcohol on this sunday impaired U a bit MORE that Usual??? I will always knock peoples diest as its easy to EAT correctly; it doesn’t take money,,,doesn’t take schooling– it takes caring about thyself. GOD helps those who HELP themselves

      • thomasbone63

        Hey Mr Liar, I don’t know what Mobate is, It’s probably not a flattering word, but no big deal. I’m hardly an idiot, because when I was in the work force they paid me 6 figures. So lets put that to bed. I’m sorry you don’t have a restaurant, and you are a traveling cook. I guess you must be a fairly good cook (I don’t ever want to taste your food) because different restaurants hire you, I guess that’s good for you. I will never find out because as you know I hate your state. You said you have a problem with poor people’s diet. They eat what they can afford. In poor neighborhoods their are no fruit and vegetable markets. For the most part, they buy their food from the corner grocery store which charges them a arm and a leg. Mr. Liar, if you have not walked in these peoples shoes, then you have know right to voice an opinion of them. You need to keep it real. There are people who are not as fortunate as you. Bless your lucky stars.

      • gemma liar

        awwww,,,,now we are bringing in income? OK: pay attention- and start preparing your retributive comments . I CONTRACT kitchens in adult strip clubs in the dade / broward area of south FLA– yes: all those scantily clad females I have had the dubious pleasure of emptying my fluids into over the past 25 yrs have ALSO been the source of about 80% ( employees; strippers/DJ’s/managers/ floormen/ bouncers/valets/ETC) the remaining is patrons and BUFFETS/ events/parties and outside weddings and social get togethers off premise I have done with my catering ( strip clubs have usually HUGE well designed kictehsn: I pay NO rent…NO electric…NO gas….NO water…NO garbage- so I in effect OWN a restaurant without any overhead. ARE U WITH ME SO FAR U STUPID FUCK??? Good- I will proceed. Over the years I have averaged about 90K ( cash my dear pinhead,,,CASH– which means NO TAXES,,,,YAAAY MEEEEEEE) and maybe U can figure out if I make 112 000.oo ( last year) and pay NO TAX how much would that be IF I paid a tax to GET TO THAT NUMBER??? 150K??? I have NO BOSS,,,,, I have ( not recently as im not into tattooed fat ass plastic surgery chics who ARE MY MONEY) fucked upwards of over 200 so im not a guy who is intimidated by ANY woman…. Ive had too many of them. I have investments…..tons of cash laying around– a HOT girlfriend( NON stripper) and I know that people of LESSER financial means can eat healthy if the budget well: which means ….no cigarettes,,,no alcohol,,,no tattoos,,,no drugs- so don’t you go CRYING to me about stupid shitbags eating corn and fried gizzards when better CHEAP food is available. all neighborhood hace GROCERY STORES woith FRESH veg and fruit. it requires taking time to prepare unlike going to popeys or burger kind and eating sodium laced trash. I love florida,,,,,,,,,,,(SOUTH florida as central and north FLA is full of white and black TASSH scumbag redneck idiots. the governing bodies of this state suck my ass; but I don’t care as MY LIFE is good. your state probably has tons of poor scum too stupid and LAZY to do that extrat to succeed. I didn’t come from money–I was a druggie in my teens and twenties and STOPPED and now am reasonably successful. So don’t try your crybaby shit on me you loser,,,,if u are overweight ( probably) get your lazy ass up and ride a bike and eat some broccoli and stop drinking booze. I cant stand idiots such as U who don’t know shit but “think” you do

      • thomasbone63

        Mr. Liar, why do you feel I should know this. Sounds like you are doing quite well. Goo for you. I could really care less though.

      • gemma liar

        I feel U mst know because U have called me -among other things– trailer park trash. You are idiot ; a crybaby and as smart as a coelacanth. Im normally quite kind but when a scumbag who coulodnt hold my snot annoys me out of his OWN personal hatred of his OWN life I feel obliged to let U know that many of us are far far superior to idiots such as you. If U reply more I will remind U of the facts laid out in this message 2 U

      • thomasbone63

        That’s your fear Mr. liar. You are so afraid of losing your imaginary superiority over people of color that it has you paranoid. I called you what you sounded like. Your statements were ignorant and uneducated. Maybe you might have had to much to drink, I don’t know, you are really not sounding to good today.

      • gemma liar

        hey Zimbabwe imbecile; I already mentioned I do NOT drink or smoke and take NO drugs,,,,,, NOTE to Zimbabwe imbecile: Michael Jordan and denzel Washington and many many other NON Caucasians are superior to me by a mile. luckily: you AINT one of them- U are a dolt

      • thomasbone63

        Is Zimbabwe a bad place to live. Just asking, since you assume that’s where I’m from. You just seem so threaten. Whatever you have, I’m pretty sure you’ve earned it. Don’t stress out so much.

      • gemma liar

        im not at all saying U are from there,,,Im nicknaming you that

      • thomasbone63

        And I was being sarcastic.

      • gemma liar

        sarcasm? Hmmmmm,,,,,,,,, luckily I am not being sarcastic! I have learned 2 luv ur new nickname. Perhaps “hotel Rwanda” befits thee more?

      • enkelin

        Im not defending mr bonehead, but Puuhleese dont spout about how great Florida is. Florida gave us 8 years of GW Bush and now Scott there is screwing all of yall. What do yall really have there except Disney who hires only minimum wage people and aligators. Barley even have orange groves anymore. Yall did not expand Medicaid there in Florida so the state could contribute to trying to block the Aca and make it fail as well. Florida is only ONE notch better than the Red State hell I live in, Texas.

      • thomasbone63

        If I/m the bonehead why are you so embarrassed of mr. Liar? You are only saying the same thing that I said about Florida.

      • enkelin

        Dude, did you read all of your other posts. You went absolutely bonzo on everyone I was telling Gemma that Florida sucked, at least politically. And yes I was agreeing with you about Florida. Chill.

    • Jim D.

      But what about 33 million other people who desperately need affordable health care? I dont need the aka myself but that beside the point.

      • thomasbone63

        I don’t know whether you are from one of those states that has one of those dumb ass governors preventing the health care act from forming, but if you are, then put some fire under his ass. The only reason these governors are blocking is not politics, its their dislike for the man who introduced it and got it passed. Cut your nose to spike your face. How fu is that? You tell me.

      • Jim D.

        Im from California and our state has embraced aka thank God.

    • Oldfart

      So, you don’t have a wife, any children, any grandchildren, any siblings or any nieces, nephews, cousins etc. who need healthcare? And, because YOU have healthcare, the hell with all of them anyway?

      • thomasbone63

        They were talking about veterans you asshole. Nothing else. At least that’s how I took the conversation. Now my family is fortunate to have health insurance, however the affordable health care is mostly for people who don’t health care coverage, which your party wants to prevent them from having. So don’t give me the BS like you give a FK for the people who have been denied. People like you are so full of sht and are great giving out people like Cruz talking points. Well you know where you can place those points.

      • Cathryn Sykes

        Okay, make up your mind, pal. You makes noises like your basic “the ACA is a pile of crap” Republican and now you’re the poster boy for the uninsured poor? May I remind you that this article was not just about vets, so it’s understandable that people are confused by your incredibly arrogant “Now if anyone who don’t like my words of wisdom, can kiss where the sun don’t shine” attitude? Fine, veterans have options…..that’s not what the article was about!

      • thomasbone63

        Yeah, someone needs to speak up. Sure as hell can’t expect you, people like you, and your republican party to do it. Sit your ass in your corner where its safe. Your freaking life has never been threaten. Matter of fact, shut the FU.

      • Oldfart

        What party, asshole? Do you have any idea that YOUR comment sounds like THAT party? I voted for Obama twice, asshole and I voted for Bush zero times. Did you vote at all? Because you sound like someone who flaps their jaws so loudly they can’t hear anyone else and someone who certainly doesn’t have the time to vote because he’s too busy looking at himself in the mirror.

      • thomasbone63

        Just seeing the name oldfart, I picture a nasty ass slob sitting on the couch, drinking a cheap beer, scratching his nasty ass while watching tv. I don’t give a good sh*&^t who the hell you voted for. Hell, I’m surprise you can read and write. Good for you. So, I guess what I’m trying to say oldfart is that you can kiss my black ass.

      • Oldfart

        It’s obvious that when attempting to kiss your black ass, I wouldn’t know where to start since, as indicated by the output you’ve produced here, you’re all ass.

      • thomasbone63

        Whatever, do what you do best.

      • ADubs923

        Good morning Mr Thomas and thank you for your service, first off. I work for a govt contracting company, and I am engaged to a partially disabled veteran. We are both in our 40s. He has Prime, I have a (extremely) high deductible, co-insurance through Aetna. For me, the ACA is the only way to get healthcare coverage at a reasonable rate, without paying an arm & a leg before the insurance company kicks in & helps. We just recently moved to Texas & are fortunate enough to live close to Ft Hood and not be displaced by the Primary Service Area change. Back to the topic, These Senators who are trying to cut or decrease the level of care Veterans receive is a concern. My fiance still works as a civ after his 20+ years of service so we have a lot of living to do and ANY cuts to his health benefits would be devastating. The very least I expect from my country, as an informed, tax-paying citizen, is that those who fought and sacrificed life, limb, or even “just” struggle with chronic pain & fatigue, would be able to access quality healthcare and the thought of possibly losing that quality or even just having that quality taken away during a shutdown is enough to get me fired up and ready for the polls.

      • thomasbone63

        Right on fellow veteran. Its good that you have Fort Hood close by. Vote those bastards out of office. The midterm elections has to be treated as if they were the Presidential elections. New York City is made up in 5 bourghs. 3 out of 4 have VA hospitals. We don’t have to worry about a fool like Perry. Please vote for the lady that’s running for gov. in your state.

      • thomasbone63

        No, that’s what you and Cruz is saying. Don’t get it twisted. You know what the deal is.

      • enkelin

        Your very first post made it sound like you were against the ACA otherwise know as Obamacare.

      • thomasbone63

        NO,I totally for the ACA, without a doubt.

      • enkelin

        Must have been how you worded it. It confused a lot of people, including myself.

      • thomasbone63

        This topic was based on the state of Texas denying access to tens of thousands of veterans. The article had nothing to do with whether my family or friends had healthcare. So the people on this site took this subject way way to somewhere else.

    • Jodi Rives Meier

      Yeah, we saw how the VA patients were getting the royal treatment at Walter Reed. You’re right, it’s all good.

      • thomasbone63

        Hey Jodi, are you a veteran? If you are not, don’t tell me what fox news tell you or cruz. If you have not walk in the shoes of a veteran, then shut the FU.

      • Cathryn Sykes

        Yep. But you know, it’s our fault. One of the vilest things Bush did was to NOT activate the draft. Vile but brilliant, just like his lowering taxes and putting the war on the national credit cared. That meant that most Americans never got a hit to their wallets and most of use never had any of OUR loved ones going in harm’s way. Result? No pain, no complain. So the best of us went again and again into that meat grinder, while we slapped yellow stickers on our cars and smugly congratulated ourselves on how we were willing to “support the troops.” Well, as happens in almost every war ever fought, we largely forgot the troops as soon as we didn’t need them and they’re still struggling. I have to admit though, that Bush, that loathsome man, takes the prize. He bragged about doubling the VA’s budget. Going from peace time status to war, he should have quadrupled it! And then allowing another one of his incompetent cronies to run the VA! Sickening. One of the things I like best about Obama was his naming Shinseki to that post.

    • Gene Roman

      Well, I’m a veteran as well and I say all Americans deserve to have access to proper health care. Not just the rich who send us off to war.

      • thomasbone63

        Gene, understand me. This is not what the article was about. The article was about veterans. Read the headline of the article. All of a sudden, the people on this site wants to change the subject. All i’m doing is addressing the subject, that’s all. You have anti Obama people on this site that want to make it about something else. This was about Gov Perry and Healthcare for Veterans.

      • Debbie K.

        While that is true, its over lying subject is the reason these Vets are being denied is that Gov Perry refused the $ the Federal Government offered to expand Medicare in Texas
        We (all of us reading this) can not ignore that by doing so he has prevented many Vets who fall out of the qualifications that you listed above and have no insurance, as well as (AS WELL AS) myself non-Vet who has no insurance and is unemployed (and looking but not having much luck in the not so great Job market in TX that has been over inflated as good) and can not afford insurance. I would have the insurance I could use to look at my injured wrist and have my annual checks done. But instead I pay cash and can not afford to get an xray
        So while you would like to talk about a single minded subject, it really is broader than that and there fore we as readers can expand that conversation as I just did
        (FYI, I do not qualify for Medicare in TX because I am not pregnant or have children, same for welfare per the states rules so I do not have any options)
        After Jan 1 I can get insurance for $595 a year which with my health is the monthly premium I would pay for the less coverage then is in the Bronze package a MONTH with high deductible

        Of course if I get a job which I have looked for for two years now that might all change but for now I just have to look at all the facts on hand not just the ones I want to talk about

      • thomasbone63

        Then the affordable care act would help you. You have a idiot for a Governor (Perry) who’s hurting the state of Texas because of his disdain for President Obama. The Governor sorry to say is your blocker.

      • Kyle Walker

        That’s what us level headed Texan’s keep trying to tell people! Texans and non Texans alike!

    • Cargapalitos

      Wait until you get really sick…and you are going to wake up to reality.

    • enkelin

      Dont worry, the Republicans want to get rid of that too. You dont think they have given up trying do you? “GOP Looks at Cutting Veterans Health Benefits for 2011-12 Session to Fulfill Pledge”

  • Jason Bolton

    The ACA is a joke. If you want national healthcare you need to nationalize it. Those of us who work are already paying into Medicare for a segment of the population, why not double the amount we pay now and include the entire nation. If everyone had baseline medicare then employers could offer supplements as an incentive for people to work for them. The ACA is more about tax, control and kickbacks than it is about healthcare for all Americans. Common sense says that something as basic and fundamental as healthcare should be simple, the ACA is the antithesis of simple and it needs to be replaced by real reform.

    • thomasbone63

      Because everyone in the nation is not on the same pay scale that you are on. That’s why they call it affordable health care.

      • Jason Bolton

        It’s only affordable for people who don’t work. It is costing the rest of us more.

      • thomasbone63

        Jason, you have it all wrong. You are listening to the Cruzs, Ryans, dude from Fla, Fox The cost depends on your income. Its kool for people that’s out of work, but its for everyone.

      • thomasbone63

        The affordable for people prevents the free rides in the emergency room. That’s what falls back on the working people.

    • gemma liar

      and U already know this based upon 2 weeks of “operation”??? U are indeed a sage

      • Jason Bolton

        I know this because I’m informed.

      • gemma liar

        no,,,,,,, FOX “news” is not “informed”….its socially DE formed but U cannot see that as U are already INFORMED

      • Jason Bolton

        I don’t watch Fox news and I’m not a republican. I actually advocate universal, price fixed, government controlled health care. The ACA is none of these things, it’s corporate welfare and the loss of personal liberties all rolled up into one. Stop stereotyping people.

      • thomasbone63

        You see liar, I took the initiative to take the extra step. I did research, unlike you, who you allowed people to do your research for you. You depend on other people’s research, because you have no mind to do it for yourself. That’s why you come on sites like this and sound like an ignorant asshole. Why don’t you do some reading before you start spilling your vile.

      • gemma liar

        hey lardass,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, the only vile im spilling here is reminding you that u sent me a nasty message as I WAS AGREEING WITH YOU– ergo: me now eviscerating you and your boorish diatribe.

      • thomasbone63

        You are the one who started the racist shi*&. I was speaking on the behalf of Veterans. You and your fellow racist wanted to make it into something else. You decided you wanted to keep the sh**&t going. I’m game. I’m dealing with your ass and watching the game at the same time. I say, “whatever makes your day”. Your rhetoric won’t stop me from voicing my opinion. If I feel what you are saying is really f**&^ked up, I will call you on it. That’s how I roll.

  • Jim

    Thomasbone63 is right for the most part however there are requirements that veterans have to meet in order to qualify for treatment and those requirements vary tremendously. On the other hand, it is socialized medicine and it is amusing to see how many people that depend on VA care, get VA home loans or get Medicaid/Medicare or Social Security et al, hate the government as it now exists, because of it’s “socialism”.

    • thomasbone63

      Jim, that’s BS. Every Veteran in the system received a letter from the VA and was informed that the affordable care act did not affect them. That’s a fact. This is why I brought up the question.

  • estfar

    Morons and clowns are the folks in charge of the Teapublican party – are we really surprised by anything these a-holes do, say or stand for? The only way to rid ourselves of these trolls is to elect someone completely opposite, some with a brain in their heads not up their a_ -!!!

  • d kirby

    I would have insurance right now if The state I lived in (TX of course) would accept the $ that the Federal Government offered.

  • aliciaelaine

    although this article is mostly about vets it does mention low income Americans “Especially as it relates to our veterans and low-income Americans” I’m a retired veteran and yes I’m covered by tricare standard (all vets are supposed to have tricare for life not sure how true that is) yes I pay a co-pay…the fact of the matter is Gov. Perry doesn’t care about anything but what his constituents want and most of them are going against their own interest simply because they hate this president….it’s simple Perry denies people healthcare and when people don’t get the care they need they will blame the president. SMDH! IJS

  • Barak99

    This doesn’t make sense. Veterans are covered under the VA, and therefore have no need for “Obamacare” – ACA