Texas Representative Louie Gohmert Makes Asinine Claim About Health Care and Life Expectancy

louie-gohmertIt’s amazing to me how in 2014 we still have an entire political party that treats science, math and reality as subjective.  As if proven statistical data, indisputable reality or widely accepted science are somehow debatable simply because they don’t coincide with what they want to be real.

Take for instance Republican Texas Representative Louie Gohmert’s comments about “Obamacare” eventually causing our life expectancy to fall.

Gohmert said, “I’m willing to postpone as much of it as we can, hoping that in 2016 we really will get a president who has the best interest of a free nation at heart and not one going socialist.  If we keep doing little fixes to it, that also helps keep it, so I would rather postpone it as much as possible without doing little fixes because the little fixes could end up giving us a system where we see the morality rate start coming down, you die earlier, not because it’s an actual death panel but because you don’t get the treatment.”

Which sounds terrifying, right?  Though I wonder if Mr. Gohmert could then explain why industrialized countries with universal health care seem to have longer life expectancies?  While “Obamacare” isn’t universal health care it is a step in that direction, and his argument of “not getting treatment” is a common talking point Republicans use against universal health care.

For instance, let’s take 4 countries – Canada, Germany, Japan and Australia.  They all have universal health care.  Let’s look their life expectancy compared to the United States:

  • #3 Japan – 84.19
  • #10 Australia – 81.98
  • #13 Canada – 81.57
  • #28 Germany – 80.32
  • #51 United States – 78.62

It would seem reality, science and math don’t back up Mr. Gohmert’s claims.  In fact it would seem they completely contradict his comments.

And I love how he flat-out said he opposed “fixes” that “help it” because that means it might stick around.  Isn’t that basically him admitting that he is doing everything he can to sabotage the law?  And if he’s doing that, which has been in line with most Republicans, isn’t that basically him admitting that Republicans are doing anything they can to sabotage the law?

Not exactly breaking news – most liberals knew that already – but it is essentially what he admitted to with his comments.

But this is just another example where science, math and reality just don’t seem to support popular right-wing propaganda.

Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Edward Krebbs

    To be complete, not only do they treat math and science as subjective, but also history (just ask them the history of the USA for the last 50 years), reading (recent example repeated x2 is Green Eggs and Ham is against trying new things), Constitutional Law (worship the founding fathers but only for the parts you want) etc. Even to where one can simultaneously be a birther, anti immigration, and Cruz for prez supporter at the same time.

  • Lorrie

    Did he really say, “fixes could end up giving us a system where we see the *morality* rate start coming down” as it says in in this post? Or did he say
    mortality? Either way, he’s a buffoon!

    • real_world_truth

      I would hope that is a typo, but given the level of ignorance the man exhibited, it probably isn’t.

    • Paul Nemecek

      Yes, since the mortality rate is typically measured as number of deaths per 1,000 population. When the mortality rate goes down, it means fewer people are dying.

  • Gary Menten

    As long as we are talking about life expectancies, all of those countries have much stricter gun laws and much lower per capita violent crime rates than the U.S. Just sayin’….

    • John M

      Just to correct you on one point. Yes, those countries have stricter gun laws. But they don’t have lower violent crime rates.

      • Gary Menten

        Per capita homicide rates per 100,000 population.

        Canada 1.6
        UK 1.2
        Japan .03
        Australia 1.0

        US 4.8

        Do you really want to have this argument?

      • John M

        You didn’t write homicide, you wrote violent crime.
        For homicide you are correct. But for all violent crime, as you stated, you’re not. Violent crimes include rape, assault and robbery.

      • Gary Menten

        My numbers are for intentional homicides, not strictly gun related deaths.

        Concession: I used poor wording and should have written “homicide rate. “

      • moe/larry & curly keys

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        gary M; 117
        regressives in tea party; 9
        =====================================
        stay tuned for more!!

      • John M

        Good think I’m liberal.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        please excuuuuse my seeming oligophreniality herein inquiring:
        did I contact you?

      • John M

        And I’ll concede that guns are very dangerous and contribute to far too many deaths in America. Not that I need to concede such a thing. Only the crazy tea baggers in this country would argue a point like that. I happen to be a liberal that believes in gun rights and smart regulations.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        according to the “golden 10 commandments” rape is not a crime,,,,
        ,,,,,,,,,,, but “cussin” GODs name is(???)
        ======================================
        religion== VOODOO

      • Gary Smith

        Sorry, try again.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

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  • thesquire1

    You do need to take into account, when calculating life expectancy, that the US also has the 2nd Amendment- that must cut a few years off the average !

  • Karen Christie

    I would imagine that those who can afford good medical insurance in the US have a similar life expectancy as countries with socialized medicine. They just can’t understand why the peons would want to live longer.

  • LL11

    I wish we did have a “socialist” president. If we did, we may have gotten true universal care with limits to corporate profits over people.

  • Pipercat

    Gee Stork, my life expectancy increased because of the ACA.

  • moe/larry & curly keys

    is it me,,,,,,,or does louie look like an over reaching evangelist preaching in that photo???

  • theabby

    He made NO SENSE! The mortality rate goes down, yet people die younger!? HUH???

  • Guest

    One thing nice about statistics is you can make them say anything you want. . “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics.” Mark Twain

  • answer42

    “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics.” Mark Twain