The GOP Collapse Continues: Republicans Now Praising Economic Improvement Under Obama

presidentobamaThe first Friday of every month marks the release of the government’s newest jobs report.  This past Friday revealed that for the 42nd consecutive month we’ve had private sector job growth.  In other words, President Obama has been in office for just about 58 months and for the last 42 of them we’ve created jobs.

However, the first Friday of every month hasn’t just brought about the newest jobs report — it’s also triggered the continued rhetoric by Republicans claiming that job creation (following the worst recession in almost a century) is somehow a bad thing, or some kind of indicator that our economy is still headed in the wrong direction.

Mind you, this is without a single attempt from Republicans to actually help our economy.  In fact, they’ve almost done everything they possibly could to hamper our economy in hopes that poor economic numbers will benefit them come election time.

Well, following the government shutdown and the claim by many Democrats that it hurt our economy, something different happened following the most recent jobs report—Republicans praised the better than expected jobs numbers.

Amazing.  For over 3 1/2 years, Republicans have attacked every single jobs report as some kind of “bad news.”  They’ve repeatedly tried to spin it by saying the jobs numbers aren’t real, they’re seasonal, they’re low paying—you name the excuse, they’ve used it.  Yet this time suddenly quite a few Republicans were quick to praise the most recent jobs numbers in an attempt to save their own butts following a government shutdown where most Americans put the blame solely at the feet of the GOP.

While our economy was only predicted to create around 120,000 jobs, we actually created 204,000 for the third-largest gain this year.

Hell, even a top aide to Ted Cruz tweeted a link to the CNN Money article bragging about the better than expected jobs report with the tweet “CNN Money: Shutdown didn’t hurt jobs.”

Wait, hasn’t Ted Cruz repeatedly said “Obamacare” is a drain on the economy and a “job killer?”  Yet now we have a top aide to the senator citing the jobs report as good news?

Let me break this down:  Ted Cruz led the charge for the government shutdown on the premise that “Obamacare” kills jobs.  This leads to our government being shut down for 16 days, a shutdown that accomplished absolutely nothing.  After the shutdown ends, Republicans like Ted Cruz continue to speak of the “horrors of Obamacare” and how terrible it is for our economy.  Then, following the release of the October jobs report showing we created far more jobs than were predicted, Republicans now want to praise these jobs numbers as a sign that the shutdown didn’t hurt our economy…

Because, see, look at how strong our jobs numbers were!

What the heck is wrong with these people?  Almost nothing they say or do makes any sense.

For years they repeatedly, and without hesitation, attacked every single positive jobs reports—now they’re using our latest one as some kind of tool for bragging rights?  As if jobs were the only issue that mattered with the government shutdown.  What next, drinking and driving is okay as long as nobody gets hurt?

Just because our jobs report beat estimates does not mean the shutdown didn’t have a negative impact on the lives of millions of Americans.

The simple minded, hypocritical and ignorant nature of the typical conservative is simply astounding.

For years they attack every single positive jobs number, then once they need that number to save their own butts, then suddenly they want to validate how “positive” those numbers are?

Well, if that’s the case, I guess this is now a ringing endorsement from the GOP that President Obama’s economic policies are working and “Obamacare” hasn’t been the “job killer” they’ve claimed it would be.

At least until next month when I’m sure they’ll be back to spinning the jobs numbers whichever way they feel will best manipulate their misinformed voting base.

Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • regressive rightwing trash

    vote republican,,,,,, and watch FOX “news” for complete coverage and a ‘fair and balanced’ assessment of the outstanding jobs report. After all; it improved IN spite of obamas policies. Just ask karl rove/sarah palin/ sean “fatass” Hannity and michelle “no tits & hating life” maklin

    • justabill61

      Racist much?

      • regressive rightwing trash

        nope,,,,im a white south Floridian who simply hates scum of all colors. dramatically it seems pre dominant in the regressive repub party

      • justabill61

        If you want scum, you’re talking about the Democrat party.
        But you wouldn’t know that, you’re one of the few sheeple that still watch MSNBC with RACIST SCUM Al Sharpton.

      • eberrywagner

        You have got to be kidding, LOL. The Republican Tea Party Taliban has the most bigoted, racist, scum this country has ever seen. Do you really pay attention to what is going on in this country? Tell us how the Democrats are racist – please! Tell us!

      • strayaway

        I don’t think that Democrats are racist. They say they aren’t and I believe them. However, Under President Obama’s first term in office, black incomes, home ownership rates, and employment rates all went down relative to those of whites. If Republicans perpetrated all those things on blacks, Democrats would have some cause to call Republicans things like “bigoted, racist scum”. I’m surprised that the KKK isn’t encouraging its members to vote democratic because its been proven to drag blacks down. But Democrats did this to themselves and then voted for more of the same. So it probably isn’t racist to vote Democratic but it gets society to the same place as racists would take it. On top of that, racial relations have gone down in this Country. These are all statistical and measured facts.

      • The Circus

        We are all Americans. Let’s have intelligent discussion, not badmouthing and name calling.

      • justabill61

        Liberals wrote the book on badmouthing and name calling.

      • boop

        Because conservatives haven’t made a mockery of themselves calling the president slurs or making Hillary Clinton weight jokes.

      • Fairy Larry

        Lets see Teanut. The GOP said after the last election “why oh why does Americans hate us so bad that we have lost 5 out of the past 6 national elections”
        Lets commission an autopsy report the GOTP said because we are DEAD.
        The report came back and said “Hey teanuts guess what? Seems America views you as white trash racist, limp dick misogynist, they see you as rabidly homophobic and your xenophobia they say is because of your teabilly ignorance. They say you suffer from severe religious delusions and think you constantly jack-off bloated immoral wealth”:

        Thats not me talkin thats your very own teanut autopsy

    • fafhrd

      What is outstanding in the jobs report? Population growth is more than jobs produced. Fewer people are working than when Obama was inaugurated. The work force participation rate is the lowest it has been since Jimmy Carter was President.
      Sure, it looks great if you leave some important facts out of it.

      • Mr Smith

        Please provide us with cited sources for your information. I ask because you haven’t a clue of what your talking about…. Oh yea your a right wing troll and facts don’t matter. Simply google employment statistics an you will see how ignorant you really are. Not that you will invest time trashing your own disillusions. As the old saying goes “ignorance is bliss”

      • regressive rightwing trash

        hes sucking the poster of michelle malkin and tithing sean hannitys show

      • GOPvsUSA

        fafhrd already tried lying about Obama’s “You didn’t build that” speech over on Media Matters and I busted him on it.

        Then he ignored factcheckDOTorg when hit with it.

        Then he tried using Henry Ford and his automobiles as (I shit you not) an example that the government doesn’t help the private sector – completely disregarding that without the roads built by the government MANY wouldn’t have bought Ford’s cars because they wouldn’t have been able to use those cars.

        Then he tried lying and saying “Obama never mentioned infrastructure” in the speech, then denied he said it, and then said it wasn’t a lie when it was posted back to him along with a transcript of the speech he obviously never read.

        And so on and so on and so on.

        He’s the perfect example of a remedial, uneducated, loudmouth conservative.

      • fafhrd

        I attached two links from two different news sources, citing the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Discus doesn’t like links, in my experience.
        But, feel free to do some actual research, using the search term ‘Labor Participation Rate’.
        You’ll find that I was factually correct. And I don’t have to try to insult your intelligence or appearance to do so.

      • GOPvsUSA

        He gets absolutely annihilated by every progressive he tries to debate – check my comment history for what I’ve already done to him.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        hey fukkkface—– when the amount of JOBS created measureably exceeds the “experts” prediction its called “OUTSTANDING” ….so: please watch FOX “news” and praise jeeesus

      • fafhrd

        I attached two links from two different news sources, citing the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Discus doesn’t like links, in my experience.
        But, feel free to do some actual research, using the search term ‘Labor Participation Rate’.
        You’ll find that I was factually correct. And I don’t have to try to insult your intelligence or appearance to do so.

      • Rodney Gilmore

        fafhard ,yes your labor participation rate is correct,but did you bother to look at the reasons why or just assume its a bad economy that was the cause.of course both sides will spin the reasons to their side.but from reading through the many discusions on this topic,a few stand out to me using common sense.one the baby boomers are retiring en masse.from 1960-2000 work force participation surged from 59% to 67.3%.this is mostly due to woman entering the workforce and advancements in medicine that allowed people to work at older ages.many predict the labor force will steadily go down through 2020 no matter who is president.also many people have been going back to school since the recession and not working.some of the labor rate is because of the economy but its been going down since 2000.and some of the graphs ive been looking at have it going down until 2040+ and that’s without knowing who is president through those years.

      • fafhrd

        When we consider that the downturn started after the use of airliners as giant cruise missiles, and has never really recovered, the economic collapse caused by the housing market (mortgage loans provided to people that couldn’t afford to pay them back, CRA. Jimmy Carter opening housing markets to disadvantaged peoples in pursuit of the ‘American Dream’) and Bush not being allowed to correct this over Democratic influence (Dodd and Franks). Accelerating downwards under Obama, print more money, spend more money, create regulatory uncertainty…
        Yes, I can see the reasons.
        Real growth, comes from expanding opportunities.

      • The Circus

        Let’s have intelligent discussion, not badmouthing and name calling. WE’RE ALL AMERICANS. The internet isn’t an excuse to be rude.

      • Bert Slater

        funny how principal is important when applied to liberals, but conservatives never reign in their blathering idiots. Sorry your credibility is shot. Go attack Ann Coulter or Rush will ya?

      • fafhrd

        Funny how when liberals start the name calling…”hey fukkkface”, “a conservaturd”, “Tea Party wackos”, it’s okay.
        It is a matter of principle. Isn’t it?

      • Bert Slater

        Like I said, go clean up your trash first

      • fafhrd

        I’ll clean up my ‘trash’ when you start cleaning up yours. You’ll notice, that one of my examples of ‘name calling’, is your own.
        Have you seen me calling names?

      • Bert Slater

        so why don’t you go to a site where people share your views? are you really that lonely? can’t anyone else stomach your personality there either? Ss…ee Rush and Beck speak for the conservative movement, speaking of which, nature calls…..

      • fafhrd

        Because I actually enjoy trying to teach people.

      • Bert Slater

        Not everyone wants to learn how to shit the bed.

      • fafhrd

        That doesn’t require any effort on my part, nor do you need me to teach it. It is so easy that babies could do it.
        My contention, with this article, was that as good as the ‘jobs created’ was, that wasn’t the full story in the jobs report, and that the remaining news wasn’t good. Nor was the rest of the ‘spin’ applied to this story reflective of reality.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        I enjoy acting infantile around closed-minded rightwing crybabies. If I could party with michelle ” no tits & hating life” malkin I would magnify my stance a hundred fold

      • Bert Slater

        something smells? Oh, a conservaturd spreading lies….

      • fafhrd

        If I’m spreading lies, the place I got the information from, the Bureau of Labor Statistics, is spreading those lies. Oh, wait, the Bureau of Labor Statistics, is the government.
        They wouldn’t lie to me/us! (“If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep your healthcare plan. Period. Nobody is going to take that away from you.”)
        Media sources, well, everybody knows that different outlets want to spin the news in a given way. MSNBC in one direction, CBS in another, FOX in yet another. That’s why I don’t like media reports, and prefer to go right to the source.

      • The Circus

        Let’s have intelligent discussion, not badmouthing and name calling. WE’RE ALL AMERICANS. It’s not like people who still don’t have jobs are any better off, and we should have good discussions about such things.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        133K were expected ,,,,204K joined the work place,,,,,, now im certainly NOT as smart as U are,,,, but my math tells me that when “experts: are expecting 133K to join and 204 K join it could (“could”) be construed as well-above expectations. allow me to attempt to crack your dynamic intellect with this lateral reference using simple numbers: If U were expecting a check from a settlement and the number U expected was ( after taxes) 133,ooo.oo and U received 204,ooo.oo your verbal choices to define your view of the check were (A) neutral (B) disappointing (C) outstanding (D) where is that big chested girl I want to ask to dinner———————– check back with me on thy answer and TRY try TRY 2 stay on topic

      • fafhrd

        1) Even better, per the article, “about 120,000” were expected and 204,000 resulted.
        So much for the ‘good news’ from the article. Now, how about the REST of the jobs report?
        2) Unemployment rate rose from 7.2% to 7.3%.
        3) Labor Participation Rate fell from 63.2% to 62.8%.
        4) 700,000 people left the ‘labor market’.
        All of these extra bits of information, are also contained in the jobs report. That is ‘on topic’.
        But I’m happy to provide the rest of the disappointing information about how outstanding the employment market is doing.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        no sweat,,,,,I do enjoy your typical regressive rightwing FOX “news” ploy of simply NOT answering my question introduced ( format-wise) of your a;b;c;d choice regarding that above inquiry. NO ONE doubts that employment could be better– so lets do this:::::: wanna bet me an entire USA dollar that FOX “news” does NOT mention the substantial INCREASE in the monthly job report except the similar spin U just regurgitated? I promise that HERE I will NOT mention what the job loss PCT was as good ol’ GW bush was exiting his grand stage administration and how repub obstruction has quelled every attempt to increase JOBS- nor will I hound the dead Reagan for his explosive amount of jobs ( manufacturing) overseas to line the pockets of his $$$$buddies. that of course would be off-topic. LUCKILY Im self employed as a chef and find this type of verbosity entertaining at best. Better yet are the crybaby Christian white trash regressives ( Im a 55 yr old white guy) who parrot the same stuff seen the night b4 on FOX ”news” as they don’t DARE check the facts……. that wouldn’t sit well with other overweight impotent churchgoers railing the Kenyan anti American we have in the white house

      • fafhrd

        Not that I watch FOX news, nor do I have any way of collecting from you when they do mention more jobs ‘created’ than expected.
        I like your spin, even knowing how the Affordable Care Act has reduced hiring for small companies, restricted hours for many more, to say that Republicans trying to get rid of the Affordable Care Act is not an effort to increase jobs?
        Nor will you hound your Democrat buddies in Congress who have given us the highest corporate tax rate in the world. So high that it becomes economical to produce overseas and ship back to the United States.
        What Kenyan is in the White House? I don’t know where Obama was born, it may have been Hawaii, but forensic document examiners have reported that what was presented by the White House is a computer generated forgery and not a scan of a paper document.
        But I really appreciate all the glorious side trips you’ve taken us on in deflection from my question regarding how great the jobs report was when the article left out the bad news from it.
        Your question was kind of like asking for the result of 2+ and then not giving the number being added to 2. Some information (from the jobs report) was being deliberately left out.

      • regressive rightwing trash

        I have NOOOOOOOOOOOOO problem with anyone ( dem/regressive/independent) replacing ACA with a better plan,,,,,but coelecanths such as U never seem 2 come up with a definitive plan which REPLACES–and UPGRADES the formerly republican genesis of the ACA. They –as U— keep crying but offer no solution which is an UPGRADE. until they collectively do— we here on the progressive side will laugh at the obstruction and move FORWARD even towing the dead weight of the non-productive republican party

      • Steeler4Life

        “I like your spin, even knowing how the Affordable Care Act has reduced hiring for small companies, restricted hours for many more, to say that Republicans trying to get rid of the Affordable Care Act is not an effort to increase jobs?”

        So, ACA did this? ACA was the EXACT reasoning for what is quoted? Hmmmm, lets think about that.
        1. Small companies are hiring less due to the economy being shit and big companies like Wal-mart pushing out small mom and pop businesses.
        2.Hours have been restricted due to greedy ass big wigs that dont want to have to pay out to have people insured. ACA gave them an out, but yet many companies are still allowing things like spousal coverage, if they cannot be covered by their own employer.

        Now, like a typical right-winger, you mention ACA alot and use the same talking points as many Repubs. But think of this. Lets say you have cancer and Humana insurance. Now, with ACA, they will send you a letter saying that your coverage will be dropped and you will be rolled over to a new plan and if you like this new plan do nothing, except pay an extra 300-400 bucks a month. You decide that is too expensive so you get dropped. Now, WITHOUT ACA, you can go get coverage through BC/BS and they refuse to cover your cancer treatments and you suffer and die or you go broke trying to live. Or, WITH ACA, you go to the marketplace, find coverage that is 50-80% less than when you were paying before you got dropped and that company will HAVE TO COVER YOU, even with your pre-existing condition.

        Ok, now which on sounds better? Getting dropped and you either breaking your bank to live or suffer and die. Or would you rather be covered for that preexisting condition and have the insurance companies be help accountable for the money you put into your insurance?

        Typical GOP crap! Next thing ya know, you will tell me that ACA will cost us so much money and that we need to stop it now or go into more debt. Please, come say that, then I can throw it back into your face that if ACA is dropped now, it will cost us for the next 10 years!!!!

      • fafhrd

        Yes, many small companies have used the existence of the ACA as the reason why they aren’t hiring, and/or are limiting hours below the 30 hour threshold.
        I have had Cancer. My insurer, didn’t drop me. But my employer did cut my pay over $550, per month.
        You throw out a very rosy story. One that hasn’t happened. One that I’ve never heard anyone give to the media. I’ve heard many people losing the healthcare plan they liked (and the one the President say that they could keep. Period.) because insurance companies are dropping non-ACA compliant policies. I have not yet heard of anyone finding a ‘better policy, at a lower price’ on the exchanges, yet. (Which would really have been trumpeted if it ever happened) Just the opposite, people are finding that anything similar to what they had, will cost them more on the exchange.
        Keep trying. Rational analysis will lead you to reality.

      • GOPvsUSA

        You’re over here on another progressive site starting with the regulars? After I already tore you to pieces with your own talking points and lies over on Media Matters?

        Yep, you sure are a conservative that repeats the same mistakes over and over again!

        Think of each down vote as a graphical representation of your IQ that’s steadily dropping.

      • fafhrd

        You haven’t ‘torn me to pieces’ regarding lies on my part. Nor have you admitted your own ‘FACT’s for the lies that they are.
        We shall just have to see.

      • GOPvsUSA

        Keep saying that until you believe it. You’re easily deluded so it shouldn’t take too long.

        By the way … I can prove everything I said simply by pointing other posters to our comment history.

        Translation: You lose!

      • fafhrd

        Taking talking points from someone equally as misinformed, deluded or foolish as yourself isn’t proof of anything.
        What would be proof, would be verifiable facts. You’ve come up with a lot of opinions that you call facts, but those also aren’t verifiable.
        Getting your buddies to vote on our comment history is also not proof that you are correct.

      • GOPvsUSA

        Here’s the proof that I’m correct.

        Ready?

        1) Who built the roads that allowed people to drive those cars that Ford built?

        2) Who built the roads that help Jeff Bezos get his products to the people who order them?

        You’re now 0-23 and counting on responding but not ANSWERING the question.

        Hint: Lying and saying you answered them will NOT help you get out of this.

      • fafhrd

        Pursuing me throughout cyberspace, because you can’t deal well enough with one reality?

        You want a simple answer? As opposed to reality?

        Ford made his fortune selling cars before there were ‘roads’. That piece of infrastructure didn’t come along until after, after Ford made cars affordable and common enough for people to have them.

        Your ‘simple’ question about “who built the roads” is void of any basis in reality.

        The simple answer is “people” built the roads, following the dirt trails left by multiples of cars already using that path.

        Which is why, your question is irrelevant. And you are being stupid to push for a ‘simple’ answer that has nothing to do in reality to the question you asked.

        Similarly, “people” build the ‘roads’ that Bezos products arrived at their destination. But that answer leaves out the electronic highways for ordering products that didn’t exist, until the influence of Amazon, caused other companies to come in and create the ‘dot com’ boom in the mid 1990’s. That answer also leaves out the airplanes for rapid shipping of products, and the airports that came after airplanes.

        Again with Bezos, he was able to create a successful company, before the infrastructure was there. Your ‘simple’ answer, is meaningless and irrelevant.

        And you lying about the real answers doesn’t absolve you from the fact that I did answer your questions, days ago. Either that, or you persist in demonstrating your blind ignorance to reality in order to pay homage to the man who said “If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.” Even after I repeatedly showed you how these two men did create successful businesses, before the infrastructure was there, that Obama seems to believe is necessary for the creation of a business.

        I notice you continuing to leave out my winning side of the ‘score’ in your little game.120 – 23. And I also notice that you are getting more down votes than I could give you, which means you are losing on you own biased websites.

        And yet, you call ‘me’ a troll? Smh.

      • GOPvsUSA

        Nope … none of those above is a simple answer to “WHO BUILT THOSE ROADS?”.

        That’s because … as previously mentioned … responses are NOT answers.

        You’re just too damn stupid to know what the difference is between the
        two.

        Now we’ll keep trying this until you figure it out.

        Ready?

        1) Who built the roads that allowed people to drive those cars that Ford built?

        2) Who built the roads that help Jeff Bezos get his products to the people who order them?

        You’re now 0-24 and counting.

        It’s common sense that “people” build the roads you stupid POS.

        People who worked for WHO helped build those roads?

        I’ll even give you a clue here … all you have to do is fill in the blanks to complete the answer and post it as the first word in your response.

        People who worked for the g _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ t helped build those roads.

        Hint: Lying and saying you answered those questions will NOT help you get out of this.

    • strayaway

      Umm, actually unemployment rose from 7.2% to 7.3% last month. The following additional tidbits are from The Economic Populist .org. ” There were 932,000 more people considered not in the labor force for October 2013 according to the BLS employment report. The labor participation rate plummeted to a new low of 62.8%. ” Last month,”The labor participation rate plunged -0.4 percentage points to 62.8%. This is the lowest labor participation rate since March 1978.””The number of employed people now numbers 143,568,000, a -735,000 monthly decline.”

    • The Circus

      Let’s have intelligent discussion, not badmouthing and name calling. WE’RE ALL AMERICANS.

      • Bert Slater

        then why do you allow Democrats or Liberals to be called traitors? Want to stop the name calling? Go ahead, stop calling people names….

  • MooCow

    Message for remaining Moderate Republicans. Wanna have some influence on Democratic Party? Leave The GOP to the whackos and cross the aisle.

    • fafhrd

      Let me see if I understand you correctly… “Leave the GOP to the Constitutionalist small government types, and join the DNC”.

      • Suzie

        Why are you Obama haters, a/k/a Tea Party lovers constantly trolling this site? Do you constantly need to be in website sparring matches to try to make yourself feel better? The GOP lost the election last November, and they lost the shutdown war, and they need to seriously re-vamp their image if they have any slim chance of winning future elections. People want a political party that is for the people, not for Tea Party wackos and rich, bigoted, hypocritical Christians. Get real with what 2013 and beyond is moving towards instead of going backwards.

      • fafhrd

        Trolling?
        I just love the misinformation you like to spread amongst yourselves, thinking that you are so smart and open-minded.
        I have never met the man, so I can’t say that I ‘hate’ Obama. Having observed his policy choices, I can unequivocally state, that I do hate his policies. Hate him, no. Hate what he stands for, yes.
        I enjoy listening to you list the things you are lead to believe are wrong about the Republican party and TEA party, without any evidence being there to support your conclusion.
        And really, if you looked at what your favored candidates are supporting, ask yourself, how these choices fall under the Constitution.

      • Suzie

        There you go again, fafhrd. “Without any evidence being there to support my conclusion”, you say. Good God, where the hell have you been in the last year? Obviously watching Fox News, and listening to Beck and Limbaugh. Like I said, get real with what the MAJORITY of us want, and that is to move forward. This isn’t 1776 anymore!!!

      • fafhrd

        You are told to hate the Billionaire Koch brothers, who support the Constitution and Conservative ideals.
        You are told to support Billionaires George Soros, Micheal Bloomberg and Bill Gates. All of whom support Liberal programs (infringing on the Second Amendment, higher taxes, increased government spending).
        Why are some rich white guys good and some are reviled?
        Why do you support government control over your life, by regulation, as opposed to individual liberty?
        I’m asking you to actually think. About what you have said in this forum, and what you support.
        I don’t pay attention to most news agencies, because I know that they ALL spin stories. I go back to the sources of the raw information.
        This article is saying that there have been 42 months of consecutive job growth. That’s great! 204 thousand jobs were created, exceeding expectations of around 120 thousand jobs. Also great.
        Unfortunately, it leaves out that the labor participation rate has been going down. Fewer people are working now, than when Obama was inaugurated. A participation rate as low as March 1978, when Jimmy Carter was president. And the unemployment rate went up from 7.2% to 7.3%.
        This extra information, how does this make for such rosy Democratic spin on the Labor report.
        The reduction of many employees hours to under 30, the slow economic growth, attributed to the impact of the Affordable Care Act. Republicans trying to repeal it, is an effort to get the economy moving, but Democrats don’t see it the same way. Do you?
        And even though Obama won again last year, I have to wonder, how much did his assurances of “If you like your plan, you can keep your plan.” had to do with it.
        I wonder how much IRS targeting of Conserative groups, helped the President win re-election.
        I wonder who was responsible for the deaths in Benghazi, and why no one has been arrested yet, helped the President win re-election.
        Are those people who don’t care, really in the majority?

      • Timothy Bishop

        If you live in reality and are affected by global commerce, there is no such thing as individual liberty. you are coerced in everything you do to be positive for shareholders and business. the real question you want to ask yourself is whether or not the policies you support will create a vibrant middle class that has been shrinking since corporate taxes rates dropped and subsidies have skyrocketed. freedom for me is being in the middle class. to answer your questions….. some rich are good and some are bad because some have empathy and some do not. they can see how they caught a break while others feel they are divine and chosen to be rich. we look around the world and also into the history of this country and how states are run. the states with low taxes disproportionately have high crime, low education, high poverty rates while those with government control do not as much. the participation rate in the labor market is down and jobs are being created. you cant magically add 400,000 jobs to the market every month its unrealistic and impossible to sustain. good news isn’t bad news because it isn’t great news. it is what it is. the obamacare employer mandate doesn’t begin until 2015, how can employers be affected by it? it sounds like an awfully nice scapegoat a company to use to cut hours without taking responsibility. the president assumed people were smart enough to not like there expensive plans that don’t cover much of anything so he said if you like it you can keep it. he was wrong. the irs unfairly target conservative churches, I mean groups for tax fraud lol. unfairly went after the groups who advertised their tax fraud, untaxed groups with the name “tea party” and other political slogans in their name. I blame Hillary for Benghazi and it was her call on what to do despite not being given the funds to bring in more security I hold her accountable. it killed 4 people, so her punishment should be one one-thousandth of what George bush’ punishment was sending thousands of americans to die for no reason. I believe his punishment was to be president again. we certainly care sir, and we are the majority.

      • Dave Michaels

        George Soros, one of your “good guys” said the best job he ever had was stealing all the wealth from the Jews when Hitler had them executed. Is that your idea of good? Bloomberg has New York City like a prison. Bill Gates want’s to reduce the world population by 80%. These people are the reason the middle class is shrinking. They look at the middle class as potential completion. Take Bill Gates for example, I am a computer programmer and I have a system that beats the hell out of Windows. It’s true, the computer I am using now is running it. You may have heard of it, it’s called Red Hat. This computer is more stable than any Windows machine I have. Do you think it will ever have a fair run at Windows, hell no. Washington will make sure it doesn’t because Bill Gates has them in his pocket. That’s called crony capitalism. Do not confuse it with capitalism because it isn’t. It’s about closing down the little guys while Obama’s rich buddies control everything. For the record I didn’t vote for Bush and I will not vote for Hillary. I wish they did punish Bush for his war crimes but your logic is George killed a bunch of people so why can’t Hillary.

      • Pat

        Oh wow, and I suppose you believe that there never was and still isn’t “crony capitalism” among the Republican party. How about those multi-billionaire Koch Brothers, who own Georgia-Pacific, just for starters. Talk about some rich guys who want to continue their stomping out the little guys. By the way, I haven’t heard anything about the philanthropic efforts of the Koch Brothers. I think they prefer to keep their billions in their own pockets, while Mr. Bill Gates and his wife have made the rest of their lives about helping others who are less fortunate with their billions. Hmmm, I would take Bill Gates types over the Koch Brothers types anytime!

      • Suzie

        You ask me to think??? I have thought plenty, about a lot of things, and I am old enough to know better than a lot of young people or self-righteous political types who only want to think about themselves, and their unobtainable wish for less government and yes, less taxes, which always seems to be the ultimate goal. You think you care so much, well so do I. I care a lot, that’s why I think we need government to step in and help take care of the poor, the weak, the elderly, the sick and disabled, etc. Maybe you would be happy to see all of these people out on the street. Yes, some of the taxes I pay go to helping these people, and I am OK with that because I love my Country and I want to take care of my fellow Countrymen if they cannot take care of themselves. I am also for regulation of big banks, corporations, big business, etc. because if someone doesn’t lay down some rules, these people will cheat, steal, lie, etc. to gain money, power, control, domination, etc., whatever their own selfish interests are for, and the government can help enforce rules and regulations that can at least try to keep them in line. We have all seen what happens when there is less regulation, and as they say, “it ain’t pretty”. I am also for more gun control, because there is absolutely NO NEED for this country to have more guns than it does people. I am not saying to ban guns, but for heaven’s sake we need stricter laws and more enforcement of those laws to keep the guns from getting in the wrong hands. Don’t tell me you care more than I do, because you don’t. So, I will stick with the Democrats, who seem to be far from perfect, but are also the party to want to do what is right for all, not just for a select few. Most of them don’t have hatred and bigotry towards different races, different religions, gays and lesbians, women, the poor, etc. I prefer to stand with the people who aren’t looking for a handout, unless they absolutely need one, and then thank goodness that there might be some governmental organization who will help them in their need. If everyone had nothing but interest in helping themselves, what an ugly, ugly world this would be. You seem to have a preoccupation with the latest job growth news. Why? Is it that you are afraid that it will make our President look better than you think he deserves? Well, that’s just too bad because I don’t think the President won because of his comments about insurance, or targeting conservatives, or whatever other b.s. reasons you think he won because of. I think he won because he cares about the people of this country, be they rich, poor, white, black, gay, sick, elderly, etc. That is what came through about him to me when I made up my mind to vote for him. He’s not perfect, nor is he always right, but I sure prefer him to someone who stood in a room full of people, and said he didn’t care about 47% of the people of this Country. Who has sums of his huge amount of money hidden in tax shelters overseas, so he doesn’t have to pay his proper share of taxes on it. I am for the most part, happy about my Presidential choice, and would absolutely still vote for him today. I cannot speak for anyone else, but, I still think “the better man won”.

      • fafhrd

        Got it, you think government needs to step in and perform the same task that charities already perform better, and at lower loss of dollars along the way from your pocket to helping those in need.
        Government regulate companies (good), but what about the regulation of government? It is growing, expanding, consuming more tax dollars to support it’s own growth, putting power into hands of unelected bureaucrats, to control and dominate the citizens. (You must purchase a government approved health insurance policy or pay a fine [tax]).
        Gun control, even though gun crime went up from 1994 – 2004 during the assault gun ban, and since the expiration of that ban, gun crime AND other violent crimes are on the decrease (with increasing gun ownership, no criminal wants to target a place where they can get hurt).
        Romney didn’t say he “didn’t care about 47% of the people” (though you may believe that is what he said). He did say he didn’t want to waste a lot of effort trying to convince 47% of the people to vote for him, because those were the people that were voting based on what the government would give them.
        Overseas tax shelters? Ask John Kerry about his money, Nancy Pelosi, or Harry Reid about where their money is. These are the people that CREATED those overseas tax shelters!

      • Timothy Bishop

        government is regulated by the people reasonably well until money becomes involved and becomes a form of speech and voting, the basis of libertarian policy. liberal policy (democrats are center right and not liberal) is the idea that government makes the things that all citizens need available through tax or low affordable price. Single payer care is the way to go if the most important thing is for sick people to get the care they need over the most important thing being to profit from the sick, making sure they stay sick to continue profiting, and denying to help those who have paid for insurance because they don’t have the influence/power to defend themselves likely not knowing they are being taken advantage of. democrats and Republicans are bad at taking money in exchange for legislation and corruption, but it is the basis for libertarianism and the tea party. the solution isn’t to double the things hurting our country. but perhaps to get back to the policies of the periods that had the biggest and most expanding middle class.

      • Suzie

        You go ahead and think what you want, Fafhrd, but my point was that no one, and nothing is perfect, not the Democrats or the Republicans, but I still am happy that Obama won, and I would happily vote for him again, because I think he has more of a heart than the rather heartless Republicans, (not all of them), who seem to care only about themselves and others like them, and their own selfish agenda. If your goal is to pay less taxes, which as I said above, always seems to be the bottom line goal of the people who complain about our government, then go somewhere else that you think is better and will allow you to keep more of your precious money. By the way, did you ever hear that, “money can’t buy happiness”? We could use more people being positive about what is good here, than always focusing on what is bad. Perfection is unobtainable in any person, place, government, etc., but I still think I made the right choice with President Obama.

      • KCMOfan

        Hey fathead or whatever, charities are stretched to the limit. If you pulled your head out of your butt maybe you would know that. We just went through the worst recession since the Great Recession, and the GOP have cut food stamps and undercut any effort to create jobs. This House is the worst in the history of the USA. Pay attention. Stop snorting that Foxygen.

      • fafhrd

        Charities are stretched to the limit. And people aren’t giving as much to charity anymore, because government is taking more of their money, and people are expecting the government to take care of them.
        Since the Affordable Care Act is doing such a great job, at destroying jobs, any effort to repeal the ACA is an effort to create jobs. The Republicans aren’t the ones undercutting efforts to create jobs, Democrats by insisting on the ACA, are.
        So witty. I never heard of ‘Foxygen’ in any of my chemistry classes…

      • surfjac

        What’s your point? That maybe when mr. boehner said priority #1 was JOBS, JOBS, JOBS he really meant they would name post offices?

      • fafhrd

        Well, since the Affordable Care Act, is recognized by Republicans as the biggest job killer extant in the country, that would tend to explain the multitude of efforts expended by the Republicans to repeal, defund and replace the Affordable Care Act as a means of getting the government out of the way and allow companies to create the JOBS, JOBS, JOBS.

      • surfjac

        We’ve had 42 straight months of positive job growth…how has the ACA been a job killer?

        Only one thing creates jobs: DEMAND.
        Say it with me: DEMAND creates jobs not tax cuts.
        The ACA is self-funded.
        Yes, I’d like to replace it, with SINGLE PAYER, Medicare for all, a Public Option, all of which would lower costs. The ACA as crafted does more for the health care industry and keeps the gov’t out of health care. The ACA does not regulate people’s health but regulates the health care industry.

      • fafhrd

        And for every one of those 42 months of ‘job growth’, more people have left the job market, tired of looking. Every month of those 42 months of ‘job growth’ have seen a fewer number of people working at the end of the month than at the start of the month.
        Please, go look at what the Bureau of Labor Statistics has actually been reporting, as opposed to what some ‘news’ source has been spinning.
        One thing that kills DEMAND, government interference into free markets.
        ACA is NOT self funded, it comes out of the General Fund of income tax revenue.
        Self funded, would mean a separate tax just for it, much like FICA for Social Security (which has been raided constantly since LBJ), or Medicare payroll taxes.
        Single Payer, it might lower costs, but try to find a doctor that would want to work that way. See how well it is working in Europe.
        No, the ACA as crafted, doesn’t regulate the health care industry, it regulates the health INSURANCE industry.

      • surfjac

        What part of my income tax goes to paying for my health insurance? Oh right, none of it.
        What is gov’t interference in the free market mean? It’s okay to put unsafe products into that free market? It’s okay to use methods at a job site that will get people killed?
        Europe is way ahead of us in health care; that is, they rank higher.
        So, how do you create jobs? Tax cuts bush gave didn’t do it. Lack of regulations just got a number of people killed in texas. How do YOU create jobs? What plan has mr. boehner, mr. mcconnell, mr. limpbaugh, mr. priece, ms. palin, ms. bachmann or any other republican’t twit offered up in the last five years?

      • fafhrd

        Your health insurance subsidy comes out of taxpayers pockets, maybe not your income tax, or maybe you earn enough so that you don’t get a subsidy, and are subsidizing others. Right, that’s where those subsidies are coming from.
        Government interference in the free market is the government telling you that you have to buy something, it is the government telling companies what they have to sell, what has to be in that insurance policy.
        That is a proper regulatory function, not that it is necessary. If a company sells unsafe products, has hazardous working conditions, they won’t remain in business very long.
        I’m sure you believe that. There is no consistent guideline for infant mortality. We try to resuscitate stillborns, if unsuccessful, that counts against the measure, in Europe they don’t try, and it doesn’t count. Waiting periods to see doctors are longer in Europe, conditions get worse before seeing a doctor. Visit Europe, see for yourself, I was lucky, I got to Europe while serving in the military.
        Tax cuts Bush gave, prevented a much larger recession after Islamic terrorists used airliners as cruise missiles.
        There are two Republican plans sitting in committee. Several Republican suggestions on how to improve healthcare, and create jobs have been made. Tort reform, selling insurance across state lines to increase size of risk pool. I can’t help it if you are ignoring what you are told (if it comes from the mouth of someone with an ‘R’ after their name).

      • surfjac

        “Tax cuts Bush gave, prevented a much larger recession after Islamic terrorists used airliners as cruise missiles.”
        That clearly means to me you just don’t have a clue. Have a nice life.

      • fafhrd

        I don’t have a clue, and you aren’t aware of the rationale behind the tax cuts, all of which came after the attacks of 9/11, the economic devastation that those attacks caused…
        Right….

      • surfjac

        Let’s see, so Sept. 11, 2001 came before June 8, 2001?
        Bush actually did include the cost of the wars in his budget?
        Bush didn’t take a surplus and turn it into a deficit?
        Tax cuts do create jobs?
        There’s a lot of people who’ll argue with you on that.

        During the 2001 to 2007 business cycle, America’s economy enjoyed 52 straight months of job growth. But it was sluggish—in fact, the slowest rate of jobs growth on record since World War II, and just one-fifth the pace of the 1990s.
        The tax cuts failed to bolster most taxpayers’ earnings, even before the
        recession hit. Median real wages actually dropped from 2003 to 2007.
        Household income from business-cycle peak to business-cycle peak
        declined for the first time since tracking started in 1967. As
        documented by my colleague Timothy Noah in his series “The United States of Inequality,” this did not hold true for the nation’s billionaires and millionaires. Garden-variety high-wage earners saw their income go up. And incomes for the top 1 percent skyrocketed. For some people, obviously, the cuts “generated new wealth,” in the president’s phrase. But overall, inequality got worse.
        Unfortunately, the tax cuts never translated into robust economic
        growth, either. Indeed, the aughts saw the worst growth since World War
        II. From 2001 to 2007, annual GDP growth averaged just 2.4 percent per
        year, lower than in any other postwar business cycle. The contrast is
        starker still when judging against the previous decade. In real terms,
        GDP grew half as much from 2001 to 2010 as from 1991 to 2000.
        h/t Annie Lowry

      • fafhrd

        Many of the tax reductions in EGTRRA were designed to be phased in over a period of up to 9 years. Many of these slow phase-ins were accelerated by the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003 (JGTRRA), which removed the waiting periods for many of EGTRRA’s changes.
        Surplus? What surplus? The dot com crash wiped out any surplus. Even Clinton was running annual deficits.

      • surfjac

        Wrong-Clinton’s large budget surpluses also owe much to the Social Security
        tax on payrolls. Social Security taxes now bring in more than the cost
        of current benefits, and the “Social Security surplus” makes the total
        deficit or surplus figures look better than they would if Social
        Security wasn’t counted. But even if we remove Social Security from the
        equation, there was a surplus of $1.9 billion in fiscal 1999 and $86.4
        billion in fiscal 2000. So any way you count it, the federal budget was
        balanced and the deficit was erased, if only for a while.

        bush gave tax payers a rebate in August, 2001. He cut taxes reducing gov’t revenue considerably but never really cut any spending. He borrowed to pay for the wars and didn’t put them in the budgets. his medicare plan d was unfunded.

      • fafhrd

        But, as passed, Social Security payroll taxes aren’t allowed to be used as part of the general fund (unfortunately, they’ve been raided for the purpose of ‘balancing’ the rest of the federal budget since LBJ, leaving Social Security underfunded). This is part of the reason why Social Security is going broke.
        When it started, 16 workers for every retiree funded it, and there were Social Security surpluses. Now, only two workers are paying in for every beneficiary (not just retirees anymore). And the money that you are paying in now for your retirement, is already spent.
        Much as I like your numbers, the Congressional Budget Office numbers disagree with you.
        Bush did rely on supplemental allocations to fund replacing material expended in the wars, yes. But those supplemental allocations did find their way into the accounting of the budget deficits. As did Medicare part D.
        Yes, I agree, Bush wasn’t fiscally conservative.

      • surfjac

        SS is fully funded into the mid 2030’s.
        Raise the income cap to $200K, end of problem. Don’t raise the income cap, don’t complain about SS going broke. The cap was to remain in place for 30 years to give the boomers the opportunity to fund their own retirement, easing SS tax for the wealthier among us who likely wouldn’t use SS in retirement or at least rely on it as much as someone not wealthy. That was 30 years ago; now go ahead and try and raise the cap. Also, the wealthy of 30 years ago are not the wealthy of today so they will be more likely to use or rely on SS when it’s their turn to retire. But it’s not okay to complain about SS and make believe there’s nothing to do to preserve it.

    • The Circus

      WE’RE ALL AMERICANS. Let’s have intelligent discussion, not badmouthing and name calling.

  • Mr Smith

    The next step is they will take ownership of “Obama Care” claiming its the best thing since social security and that President Obama actually had nothing to do with it, that Ted Cruz championed the legislation.

    • regressive rightwing trash

      probably right— will be fun having Hannity piss on that explanation

    • strayaway

      I just read that 30 people in North Dakota have already signed onto an (un)ACA health care plan. This has been offset by the 35,000 North Dakotans who have lost their health care plans. That’s a 1/1,000 ratio. It’s probably going to be awhile before we see that happen. So far, Cruz has been vindicated by the early results.

      Rafael Cruz pointed out that the government shutdown didn’t destroy the economy as Democratic fear mongers predicted.

      • Suzie

        You are just another one of the negative trolls on this site, and I get sick of seeing your name knowing that it will always be another hater comment. Ted Cruz is a nut job who needs to pack his bags because he is yesterday’s bad news!

      • strayaway

        Is Ted Cruz responsible for 4.2M people losing their health care insurance? That would earn him a negative assessment. If he is responsible, I think he should pack his bags. And here I thought I was bringing you happy news about all the people signed up in North Dakota. Sigh…

      • Suzie

        Your sarcasm isn’t funny. I guess you are one of the few who hasn’t heard what a loser Ted Cruz is yet. Get with it, strayaway.

      • Fairy Larry

        Well according to the polls Cruz and the Tea Nut Nation is being held responsible for the SHUTDOWN and the 21 BILLION DOLLARS LOST TO THE ECONOMY.
        President Obama’s poll numbers have slipped but then he’s not running again,,The Teanuts are and they are polling somewhere around pond scum puke..
        Red is Dead and Teanutology killed the bi**h

      • strayaway

        Those polling numbers might comfort you for now but Cruz was right. President Obama was just as responsible for shutting down the government. Cruz talked all night, for just one night, but the President refused all compromises when a bill passed the House. I doubt that tea parties would have compromised either but the President was as inflexible as the tea party. Like the (un)ACA, the sequester was settled law and Democrats tried somewhat successfully to repeal this settled law that they had previously agreed to while tea partiers tried to repeal the (un)ACA. It seems like the same behavior to me. I think the more important number is that 4.2M Americans have lost their health insurance coverage because of the (un)ACA. At this point it is a failure as Rafael Cruz pointed out. Maybe Americans will realize this if they stop listening to the MSM presstitutes’ drivel. Maybe not…

      • Fairy Larry

        See ya at the voting booth teanut. Red Is Dead. Teanutology Killed The Bi**h

      • Fairy Larry

        The GOP said after the last election “why oh why does Americans hate us so bad that we have lost 5 out of the past 6 national elections”
        Lets commission an autopsy report the GOTP said because we are DEAD.
        The report came back and said “Hey teanuts guess what? Seems America views you as white trash racist, limp dick misogynist, they see you as rabidly homophobic and your xenophobia they say is because of your teabilly ignorance. They say you suffer from severe religious delusions and think you constantly jack-off bloated immoral wealth”:

        Thats not me talkin thats your very own teanut autopsy

      • Steeler4Life

        Is Obama responsible for 4.2 million people losing their healthcare? Did he PERSONALLY cut every one of those poeple out of their insurance? Hell no, it is the insurance companies that are sending out letters to people, lying, stating that they have to have ACA compliant coverage and if they dont sign up for a plan that is similar to the one they had before, costing more money mind you, that they will be cut off. Humana did this, a D.C. based insurance company did this! All the while, not telling people about the marketplace. So, please explain why Humana got fined in KY about there misinforming letters? Tell me why, when ppl did get into the marketplace, most if not 99% of them found BETTER coverage for LESS? Hell one woman went from paying over 700 bucks on her insurance plan to EIGHTY DOLLARS with the help from ACA and subsidies!!!! Seems like ACA is gunna go down just like Medicare/Medicaid did years ago, hated on and shot down by the GOP to find out later on that it actually helped people, unlike what the GOP had said!

      • strayaway

        Yes. President Obama is responsible for 4.2 million Americans losing their insurance. He lied to make the bill pass. It is his signature legislation. Even Bill Clinton is telling Obama now that he should stand behind his promise. If the (un)ACA policies are so good and 99% find them better, why isn’t everyone canceling their policies and getting a new one? Answer: because its another lie. Hey, maybe the ACA is going to be wonderful but we don’t yet have much evidence that that is possible. So far, we have 4.2M people out on the street without insurance largely because of new requirements. That’s a national tragedy.

        I have some good news for you though. The rules have changed so that from now on anyone with an (un)ACA policy in their shopping cart will be put in the sale column even if they haven’t made a payment; wink, wink another lie to inflate the numbers.

        I liked the last paragraph of your post. it was amazingly like those ads “My sister makes $500 dollars a week at home on her computer”.

      • Steeler4Life

        Damn, that is amazing, I never new Obama ran the country and was the head of dozens of insurance companies! He must have a pouch of magical pixie dust like Dwayne Johnson did in the Tooth Fairy! Guess the teatards think that Ted Cruz’s father is a great role model too huh?

      • strayaway

        Obamacare wasn’t named after insurance companies although they did have a big role in writing it.

        Liz Fowler”put together the White Paper last November–2008–the 87-page document which became the basis, the foundation, the blueprint from which almost all health care measures in all bills on both sides of the aisle came.” -Sen Baucus

        Who is Liz Fowler? She was the head lobbyist for Wellpoint Insurance before working for Sen. Baucus. Now she works for Johnson and Johnson. Sometimes it’s hard to figure out where the Bush and Obama administrations leave off and where corporations begin. They sure don’t want us to get in the way of swinging doors.

        Ted Cruz’s father? How did he get into this conversation? Maybe we could have another thread evaluating whether Obama had a better father than Cruz. That would be fun. Mr. Clifton, we have a request.

  • Buckthesystem

    What, are you kidding, the GOP will now claim that we can have success without the govt. and the govt. does not create jobs as it was shut down and we still had job growth. Don’t be fooled ( taken from their favorite movie ) by the man behind the curtain, they will spin this to try and make themselves look better, they all know what is coming in 2014 and we just have to keep up the pressure and remind ALL the people so they don’t forget, another GOP move, the people have short memories.

  • Dave Michaels

    If you cut workers hours from 40 to 29 you will need more employees, wham more jobs.

    • Pat

      Gee, did it ever occur to you that by doing this, that more people will lose their benefits because they aren’t working more than 29 hours a week, which is a much cheaper choice for the business owners so they keep more money in their own pockets instead of hiring full-time workers with benefits? Darn those benefits, they cost the employer way too much. This has been going on all over America since the recession started. The job creators like it this way. The employees don’t like it this way. No wonder the wealthy keep getting richer, and the middle class is disappearing. DUH!

  • John15601

    This is one of the most delusional articles I’ve ever read – Cruz is correct – shutting down the gubmint wasn’t the economy killer the lefts lapdog media claimed. the jobs number didn’t go down. But if you are telling me the jobs numbers are good you are out of your mind Reagan had GDP climbing at 7% long before this point in office. In fact the recovery started before a dime of stimulus was spent (recovery started in June after the election and although the stimulus passed before June it wasn’t by much and the bureaucracy was still looking for those shovel ready jobs they never found) Then when Soetoro care passed the recovery stalled and has been at best anemic ever since. Even printing a trillion dollars a year out of thin air hasn’t helped and now the left is asking for more inflation. Jimmy Carter all over again.

    As for having the R’s become D’s I’m all for it. Start with McCain you can have him Lindsey too.