Think Abortion Laws Reduce Abortions? Think Again!

197881Since Roe v. Wade, anti-abortion activists have done everything they could to pass every restriction possible in order to block a woman’s constitutional right to a safe, legal abortion. Rather than address the root problems behind the need for an abortion, they have instead thrown up legal barrier after legal barrier, which has disproportionately affected poor and rural women who do not have the funds or ability to travel to a clinic. In Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi and other conservative states, the same people who complain about government intervention in healthcare are interfering in women’s healthcare under the banner of being “pro-life.”

These people are often really only concerned about making sure a fetus is brought to term and then absolving themselves of any societal responsibility to that human being from the cradle to the grave. Food? Not their problem. Education? Not their problem. Healthcare, including making sure unwanted pregnancies don’t happen to begin with? Ermagherd, SOCIALISM!!!!

One of the silliest things about many of these anti-abortion activists is that they’re often against any kind of gun control, you know, because gun laws don’t stop criminals from getting guns. At the same time, they firmly believe that with every anti-choice law they pass and every government regulation they place on abortion providers, the rate of abortions will continue to drop. In fact, they believe that if Roe v. Wade were overturned, abortions would cease to exist – and that’s utterly delusional. Here’s my friend James Schlarmann to explain a little more.

Maybe the most dangerous assumption that Pro-Lifers make is that they can ever actually stop women from terminating unwanted pregnancies. They make this assumption by just completely ignoring reality and history, because the simple truth is that evidence exists that ancient Egyptian women were inducing an “unnatural” end to their unwanted pregnancies, and we know that all over the world nearly every culture has seen its women trying to control reproductive decisions themselves. The danger in presuming you can legislate abortion out of existence of course is that it creates a black market for them, as we had in this country for decades, which turns them into far more dangerous procedures, that don’t happen any less frequently than when they are legal and safely administered. (Source)

I know that trying to explain statistics to people who believe that being gay is a choice and that a fertilized egg is worthy of government protection but a migrant child seeking asylum is not is like trying to catch a greased pig, but let’s go ahead and try anyhow.

No matter how many restrictions you place on abortion, it does not stop women from getting one. Sure, it may make it more difficult for women on a limited income, but it doesn’t magically make the problem go away. Here’s another pesky fact: In Canada there are zero laws against abortion, and the rate of abortions is lower than in the United States. Yes, you heard that right. Canada, our hockey and nationalized healthcare-loving neighbor to the north has a lower abortion rate than here in the United States, despite all of the laws here against it.

How could that be? For starters, Canada places a lot of emphasis on sex education. Here in the United States, the religious right does everything they can to shelter kids from the facts of life, or teach abstinence-only which is almost as ineffective as “praying away the gay.” They also do everything to shame women who have sex, block access to contraception by any means possible (including voting to defund Planned Parenthood) and when someone ends up pregnant, the wagging of fingers and judgmental remarks begin. Canada also has less of an issue with poverty, which is a large factor in the need for an abortion as well. Again, social conservatives blame the poor for their condition, slash the social safety net every chance they get, and then act astonished when a single mom gets an abortion because she can’t afford another child.

If the “pro-life” crowd really wanted to end abortions, they would support a system in which all women, regardless of income, have access to reproductive healthcare and contraception. They would support education in schools that doesn’t teach abstinence-only and not turn their backs on the poor – the opposite of what much of Christian America does now.

I would like to see there be no need for abortion, and I think Canada has shown us how it can be greatly decreased. The problem is the religious right will never go along with it because it would require them to do what may be the hardest thing of all – actually be Christians.


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  • Stephen Barlow

    In third world nations, where a woman’s whole significance is often the # of babies she births, the single most effective advancement up from starvation level poverty is… BIRTH CONTROL. Giving that woman a CHOICE is giving her a CHANCE. The CHANCE, by CHOICE, to save the lives of more children by ONLY having the babies she can feed and care for. The CHANCE to CHOOSE to NOT be forced by dogma to watch their baby starve, their child be sold into sex slavery or conscripted by drug and diamond warlords and taught to murder before puberty.

    In places where the WHO and the CDC have been able to overcome Evangelical monstrosity of “Pray the baby Away, the distribution of birth control AND sex education have gotten the same results as in Canada, a lower rate of abortion AND I higher rate of other education (women who can read and write). Tell us all ,oh holier than thou ones, what is so ‘ungodly’ about that?

    In locations where systematic, gang rape is a terrorist military WEAPON… that is ever so more important and protection. Tell me how the Evangelical Christian explains why abstinence-only works again? Are they insisting that Todd Akin was right, or that Rape is GOD’s WILL?

    But in first world America, the evilgelical really rears it’s head by denying religious freedom to any and all they hire, or live next door to. YES! If you are pro Choice and against FORCED CHILDBIRTH AND MANDATORY PREGNANCY, you are DENIED your Constitutional Right to a safe and available abortion by harrassment, abuse, terrorism, and possible murder at the hands the “God Squads” who want to FORCE their religion into your lives and your future.

    And the Robert’s Court is willing to DENY the Constitution and DENY precedent to help them do it to you and your daughters and grand daughter’s and THEIR unwanted children as well.

    The BEST Thing you can do, is DENY A Republican the chance to EVER appoint or vote to confirm any other Radical Religious zealot to SCOTUS. HOW? NEVER allow another Republican to be elected to public office. VOTE against ANY ‘family values’ evangelical who thinks Biblical laws supersede the American Democracy you say you cherish and are so Patriotic about.

    Your parent’s inflicted these decisions upon you because before you had a voting voice. Their choices for leaders made these choices for you and your children will suffer the consequences of these choices being FORCED UPON them AGAINST THEIR RELIGIOUS FREEDOM and will.

    Choose wisely at the polls.

    • IMHO

      The only ‘holier than thou ones’ that do not condone birth control are Catholics as far as I know. I believe in God and don’t believe God would have a problem with preventing pregnancy it is the killing of life after that I object to and believe God does as well. Have a problem with paying for some else who made that decision to end the life of a person already created, essentially making me an accessory. Would yu like to be made an accesory to what you believe is wrong? I don’t take away your choice but it’s ok for you to take away mine?

      • StarryNight

        I don’t know about your’s, but my insurance only covers abortion as documented by physicians in cases of rape/incest or risk of life to the mother. Even under the ACA, it is not covered as essential, and no state is required to cover it aside from common exceptions under the Hyde Agreement.

        Bring the thought closer to home, imagine it was one of your family members. And unless you are directly involved in the creation, it’s still not ultimately your decision.

        While you believe in God, not everybody does. Does it make you “more right” because of it? If there should be an afterlife consequence, that is between that person and their maker.

        That being said, I would not choose to have one, that is my choice. But I don’t believe I have the right to deny that choice to someone else regardless of my personal religious beliefs.

      • Stephen Barlow

        She should think about her MOTHER being gang raped by ON WHITES and impregnated with 4 different guys babies. Let’s see if she would FORCE her mother to take them all to term and them keep them and live on welfare.

        i agree with you about choice. her’s is NOT MINE to make. neither is YOURS. Even though we feel the same way.

      • IMHO

        In cases of rape incest or life of the mother (real threat not trumped up), are legitimate reasons to give a choice. Otherwise the choice was made prior to conception to abstain, or use contraception.

      • Stephen Barlow

        6 of 9 on SCOTUS is misrepresentative.

        But how many PROTs are on the Evilgelical bandwagon. they think RAPE is solved by a secret prayer to god and a special biological trauma gene… LMAO!!! Todd Akin for PRESIDENT!!!

        BTWm NONE of the methods hobby Lobby “objected to” were POST conception medications.

        the SCIENCE PROVED it, the Catholic Court IGNORED REALITY.

        Good luck in the afterlife. Ever notice how most of the people in church “have nice personalities”. Until you tell then some science. None of them are pretty enough to get through a velvet rope without a big tip for the bouncer.

      • IMHO

        Is it me or does it seem Liberals usually resort to personal insults to prove some point they know is weak or invalid? Being attractive or unattractive has nothing to do with morality and integrity. Your argument proves immaturity.

      • teresaInPa

        I pay foe many things I find immoral. We all do. It is called paying taxes to be part of civilized nation. But I am not sure how you think you are paying for anyone else’s abortion. The vast majority are paid for by the woman.

      • IMHO

        Medicaid, Insurance, government subsidized clinics and personal, Depends on the state the level of involvement.

  • Laura Hurt

    In the Netherlands, the country where I came from, sex is not a taboo. Sex education is not a taboo. Nobody screams in horror when they find out their parents are still having sex. Nobody screams in horror when they find out their kids are having sex (depending on their age of course). Contraception is not a taboo. Abortion is available in every city. Women who have sex are no sluts, just as men who are having sex are no sluts. The Netherlands are also a country where the teenage pregnancies are amongst the lowest of the world and abortions are amongst the lowest of the world. Gee, it almost sounds like that would work better than shaming women and preventing them access to contraceptives and abortion.

  • Vivian Sue House Hughes

    Doesn’t it seem so strange that the “Christian” parents are the ones who insist on telling their children lies about sex?

    • IMHO

      I’d like to see poll numbers on that statement.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Just look at the backrounds of pregnant teen victims of Abstinence only ignorantification..

      • IMHO

        You mean like Mary the mother of Jesus? I grew up abstinence only and was not a teen mother. It is wise to take each person as an individual. If a child is honest with a parent and vice versa, teen pregnancies would be significantly reduced. But the new society wants to remove all manner of respect for parents and put children’s minds in the hands of a government gone wild. Parent have forgotten or ignored how to parent and children run amuck.

  • IMHO

    First of all no one believes making abortion illegal will make it never happen again is just dumb. No the point is because we believe in a right to life that a creator gave, we believe we do not want our country paying for it making us a contributor to the murder of that life. People make mistakes, people make their own decisions. We don’t want someone who is ‘on the fence’ about having an abortion to think ‘it must be OK, or the government wouldn’t pay for it.” We revere all life as sacred and holy created by a holy God. How can anyone refute that?

    • FD Brian

      I think the vast majority of women who contemplate getting an abortion don’t take make that decision very lightly.

      • IMHO

        Would that make you feel better if someone decided to murder you or one of your loved ones?

      • FD Brian

        That’s not the same thing to a lot of people, especially in the first trimester, it becomes more questionable as the fetus becomes viable outside of the uterus.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Murder requires a living being PERSON be killed. Abortions are NEITHER.

        No matter what, the other 309,999,999 Americans decision will NEVER be your right to even QUESTION.

        Let alone make for them.

      • IMHO

        And that is your opinion, and if you wish to make that donation to society and life in general that is your choice, why do you get to make my opinion invalid, because I do not wish that to be for me?

      • Stephen Barlow

        It is certainly a life altering thought, no matter the outcome of the decision. Considering the increasing rate of teen suicides… I bet a lot of those fetuses REGRET being FORCED to be born…

    • Meg Sawicki

      so i guess you’re against your tax dollars supporting war and the death penalty too.

      • IMHO

        Yes and no, war for war’s sake is wrong. There are purposes of defense which include defending others life, rights, and freedom that have warranted such action, no I don’t like war, it’s repugnant Tyrannical leaders often put their innocent citzens in danger to look innocent themselves when they are not to cloud the reality of an issue. Usually an unjust government at that.. I do feel unwarranted, power seeking at all cost force requires appropriate force in defense at times. And equating an innocents child’s life to the death penalty is precisely my point. Why does an innocent child pay the debt for the mistakes of the ‘adults’ in the matter? A condemned prisoner who has been deemed unrepentant and unrehabitable may well require the death penalty. Ever watch Silence of the Lambs? How could an innocent child deserve such a sentence?

      • teresaInPa

        Whose body are the death penalty victims living in? Women are allowed to control their own body period. We are not wards of the state or incubators.

      • IMHO

        The body of the society they would otherwise be free to roam in. If you do not wish to be an ‘incubator’ then use abstinence or birth control. You are not a sperm receptacle.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Against war (not in defense of an actual military assault on American soil) YES!!!

        I am for PUBLIC executions with the victim (or family) able to OPT IN to push the plungers. I bet we could cut the deficit in half AGAIN if we sold lottery tickets for the executioner’s job @ $100 a pop!

    • pdawg119

      So all life was created by God, eh? Well then where did God come from?

      • IMHO

        He is life, he created it he is it he takes care of it. I asked a guy one time that had 3 phd’s (hint was not my own thought I don’t think – I on my own am not that smart) if everything in the universe is the result of an accidental big bang, what are the odds that accidentally the earth rotates around the sun just right and the moon rotates around the earth just right to create the exact thing called a lunar eclipse or solar eclipse to be almost exactly to fit over the other? He was also a statistician and came back the next day to say – seems something intelligent may have caused it. Accidentally happening is astronomically difficult statistically. When you get to heaven ask God that question, I’m not privy to that one yet.

      • pdawg119

        You did not answer my question. Where did God come from?

      • Stephen Barlow

        She won’t answer because she KNOWS she can’t. “That is why I call it faith” she might say as she departs the conversation.

      • IMHO

        Well when I returned, yes I did.

      • Stephen Barlow

        The Stork.

      • teresaInPa

        That’s a simpletons question. For a person of faith God always was. Where did the universe come from?

      • IMHO

        Please check out my reply to Stephen.

      • Stephen Barlow

        SO god created himself you say? Out of what? and if there was nothing before GOD, how could he create ANYTHING BEFORE he created himself FROM nothing?

        YOu are the victim of a millenium old mass hallucination.

      • pdawg119

        Exactly, Stephen. What IMHO used is known as the Fallacy of Passing the Buck. She thought she was nailing it when she said God made us, but she actually posed a harder question.

      • IMHO

        Please check out my reply.

      • teresaInPa

        Same argument goes both ways. What was there before the “big bang”? If it was caused by a chemical reaction……..? Atheists/fundamentalist Christians are the same thing. Both are people who have few answers but can’t see it.

      • IMHO

        First of all Stephen, time is relative – even science agrees with that. The further you get from the earth the more it changes in our terms. So if time is relative to earth and our experiences, then timelessness may well be a God thing and something that defies explanation at this point because it is an undefined quantity. Now how do I know that, well, when I spoke with my friend the 3 time phd, I told him that I had a near death experience and had experienced what was part of God and many of these things explained to me, Jesus, Heaven and Hell in 18 1/2 minutes, people already dead, people not dead yet (that is the timelessness part) and people not yet born. And that I had seen stuff that would have taken hours to reiterate what I saw and did there. Now you want science to explain God and timelessness talk to them I’m no scientist. But I know what it is, been there done that. He’s the one that expained to me about time being relative.

  • FD Brian

    outlawing abortion will stop abortion like making drugs illegal stopped people from using drugs.

    • IMHO

      I have not advocated stopping abortion I just don’t want to be as one who is included in accessory. in that action.

  • Matthew Reece

    Think abortion laws reduce abortions? Think drug laws reduce drugs? Think gun laws reduce guns? Think prostitution laws reduce prostitution? Of course not. If there is a market demand, someone will find a way to fill it and make money in the process.

    • IMHO

      So it’s against the law to rob your or someone elses house – with that logic we should make robbing everyone’s house legal. I have not advocated stopping abortion I just don’t want to be as one who is included in accessory. in that action.

      • Matthew Reece

        Not so. My point is that simply making a type of economic transaction illegal will not stop it from being done. It will still be done on the black market, with all the violence and increased monetary costs thereof. Crimes against people and property (the only legitimate crimes there are) cannot be completely stopped by law, but they can be stopped by overwhelming violence used in self-defense against criminals.

      • IMHO

        What is not so – your answer makes no sense to my comment.

      • Matthew Reece

        I explained what I was actually saying, then addressed why your objection was erroneous. What did you fail to comprehend?

      • IMHO

        So you are advocating overwhelming violence against anyone you personally deem a threat regardless of law – got nothing else, your morality may be way off the mark. Lawful society and morals dictate actions, Lawful society follows those laws in America historically instituted by our forefathers in line with the commandments of God to maintain peace and harmony to protect the innocent that is what is wrong with abortion period. That is where or society is failing. We have lost a moral compass communicated by the creator of all life and everything. We have become ‘lovers of the creation more than the creator” in doing so there are consequences just like physical laws of science there will be consequences of these actions. I didn’t order it, did not promote it but will live by it because God chooses it. You are free to Mock God because he gives you that freedom. Are you prepared for those consequences? You are not arguing with me (I am a simple human and child of this Living God of the Living universe that he created). The God who gave you the breath of life is entitled to take it, I have no say in that. You might want to check with Him that things you live by are correct. Otherwise you choose to sink or swim.

      • Matthew Reece

        I am advocating violence in self-defense against any credible threat that a reasonable person would believe is going to be carried out.

        Society does not exist. Each individual person exists.

        Morals come from logical proof, not from divine revelation.

        Since you choose to invoke the supernatural in argumentation, it is your burden to prove that such entities exist.

      • IMHO

        Ok, I’m alive because of Jesus, In the early 70’s The night before they were to do the surgery I was left in the ER where they thought I would likely die. I had a blood transfusion 6 months previously from a miscarriage that almost killed me. There was a rare disease that had entered my blood and the platelets were coming out shaped like a broken plate I was dieing not only from lack of oxygen but I also had gall stones one the size of a large marble the rest the size of small pebble. The large one was pushing the small ones thru my bile duct into my liver making me suffer extreme shock and could not eat. I was allergic to pain meds to take care of the pain and had lost weight down to about 80 pounds. I had believed there was a Jesus but no one ever educated me on the miracles he could bestow. Until my son’s baby sitter, a little old lady who was Pentecostal called me and said, if my husband and I would pray to Jesus and believe I would be healed I would be. My husband was a sceptic, so we prayed, if I would be healed how could we not believe in the healing power of Christ? Well in the middle of the night (I lived thru hours they did not expect). They kept coming in to do tests. At one point they took blood again and a second and third time which seemed really bizarre. They checked me in later that next morning The last time I complained, the lady just said the dr would be in to explain. He came in about 5 am (drs never go into a hospital at 5 AM) to tell me that somehow in the middle of the night I had a blood transfusion (not given by the hospital), he could not explain that and somehow my body had recovered enough they were planning the surgery for later that day I could eat or drink nothing (all I had was normal IV fluids). I was a little upset he did not finish my healing but accepted at least I was alive.Well, God was doing a further work in me. I died in surgery, saw my own body, left the hospital supernaturally my soul went into the edge of Hell, Jesus came to take me out. He took me to Heaven to see what happens there (have seen timelessness) people of ancient times, people I knew who had died in my lifetime and people not dead yet or born yet. I saw colors humans don’t see, I heard sounds we don’t hear, I listened while the entire universe and Heaven practiced the tune up of praising God. We are part of God thru Life (HE is life and love) (he blew into Adam the breath of life, his own) We are not God but we are part of God. This world and this universe is not all there is. We are part of God’s experience of life.

      • IMHO

        Has my experience been divine revelation enough for you?

      • Matthew Reece

        No. It is a combination of post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy and the malfunctioning of a brain near the point of shutting down.

      • IMHO

        Suit yourself. God told me I had to tell you, he said you might not believe, but then you live a miracle and don’t believe it either so, put your life to waste if you like. God gave you free will. I don’t think I have to go back to visit Hell so we most likely will never meet. Adieu!