It’s Time We Admit the Truth: The Tea Party is Hoping for the Downfall of the United States

tea-party-unarmedMy belief that the tea party is a form of terrorist group has sparked quite the debate.  While I don’t consider them a terrorist group in the same sense of the stereotypical radical Islamist militant group most people think of, in my eyes they’re still a domestic terrorist organization.

I fully believe that if it wasn’t for the fact that we live in a modern society, they’d be every bit as violent as the terrorists who hide out in the mountains of Afghanistan and Pakistan.

These individuals hate the federal government.  I’ve been to a couple of tea party events.  I’ve talked to many of these radical right-wing tea party “patriots.”  Many of these people are dangerous, and a lot of them are sitting around waiting for something to give them an excuse to “rise up” in some kind of armed rebellion against the federal government.

Heck, many of them are hoping for it.  How many images can we find on the Internet with people at tea party events carrying signs that allude to the fact that they’re not armed “this time”?  Many of these people hoard guns and cling to our Second Amendment, for the sole belief that they’re preparing themselves for the violent overthrow of the federal government.

Just look at the situation in Nevada with Cliven Bundy.  I’ve asked several conservatives I’ve spoken with since that story broke to tell me why they sided with Bundy.  Outside of him being a white male rancher facing off against the “big bad federal government,” most of them had no idea what the whole situation was about.   That’s all they needed to know to support armed protestors aiming guns at federal officials.

But what these people are really upset with is they live in a world where they believe what they want to be real is more important than reality itself.  To them, “freedom of religion” only applies to their religion.  To them, “freedom of speech” only applies to speech they support.  When the Supreme Court grants rights to certain individuals who they don’t feel should have them (a power given to the court by our Constitution), they’ll argue that those rights are unconstitutional.

They so badly want this country to be founded on Christianity, but it wasn’t.  And despite the fact that the words “Christian” or “Christianity” don’t appear even once in our entire Constitution, they’ll still maintain it was founded on Christianity.

What the tea party really wants is to tear this country down to such a level that they can then rebuild it the way they think it should be built.  Only if the United States completely crumbles will they be able to rebuild it, not based on the Constitution our Founding Fathers wrote, but based on the ideology they wished our Constitution supported.

These people want a government based on theocracy where they can use religion to justify any kind of hate and ignorance that they feel should be justified.  Our history shows that almost every time ignorance seeks to deny rights to certain groups of Americans, those opposing those rights almost always cite “religion” as their main reasoning behind their opposition.

Deep down, these people are hoping for our nation to fail.  That way when we hit our lowest moment, when we’re at our weakest, they can seize that opportunity to try to remake this country in the image they wished our current Constitution supported – but doesn’t.

And for growing number of these tea party radicals they’re simply looking for any reason to fire that first shot, to take that first step towards a second revolution against our government.

To me, any group that almost boasts about some kind of impending armed revolt against the United States government, while seemingly doing whatever they can politically to see this country fail as a means to better set the stage for such a revolt, constitutes a terrorist threat to this nation.

Because everything about their most hardcore supporters – from their propaganda, to their rhetoric and their political ideologies – points to a radical fundamentalist group driven by religion, hate, judgement and ignorance.  A group that doesn’t discount the effectiveness that violence might have to achieve their goals.

So if someone comes to me asking if I think the tea party is a form of terrorist group, I say “absolutely.”  They’re doing everything they can to tear this country down with the hope that by doing so, they can rebuild it based on what they believe.  Because apparently our current Constitution just doesn’t seem to support their idea of what “the United States of America” should be.

Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Scott Murkin

    “I don’t consider them a terrorist group in the same sense of the stereotypical radical Islamist militant group”

    The evidence (and the rest of your article) reveals no essential differences in these types of terrorists.

  • Chadlius

    Paranoia and fear of shortages are the main motive for the extremists within the Tea party. There are plenty of reasonable people too but they don’t show up as often nor speak as loudly when they do. Realize that these people are convinced that “their ” country has already been stolen by massive election fraud in 08,12 and that they personally are in danger of being rounded up in Fema concentration camps. They have a host of Panic Prophets selling them bullion coins, bogus financial advice and survival gear not to mention the NRA and the gun manufacturers who are making a killing crying wolf!

    • John Masters

      And while I don’t disagree with a single point you made Chadlius, it’s still no excuse for adults making decisions to behave and believe as these people do. There are certainly reasonable conservatives, but I’ve yet to find one in the Tea Party groups.

      • Chadlius

        John understanding an opponents motives is not intended to excuse them. But calling people names, even if accurate, seldom seems to alter their opinions or open their minds to new information. I love A. Lincolns’ saying “If I make a friend of my enemy have I not destroyed him?” To perceive any group as demons of bad intent closes all possibility of dialogue. I have met many tea party members who were lovely kind people in person. But they had been sold on the idea that all Democrats are Liberals who are actually Socialists who are really Communists and Atheists who lust to take away their freedom. Yes they are “wrong” to act and speak as they do. I guess I am Liberal enough to perceive criminals of every type as insane and ignorant on a base level. If they knew what I know they would not do what they do. What do you think of the recent study that shows strong correlation between reduced levels of lead pollution and a reduction in crime? I find it intriguing!

      • Renee Reinhardt

        Look up the effects of Fluoride. A poison used to kill vermin, by the way.

      • Chadlius

        Renee
        I have recently heard that it affects mental function but to be fair haven’t the far right been against fluoride from way back and isn’t it Hollywood that has insanely white smiles?

  • candysampler

    The Tea Party, The Republicans and The Democrats are all in the same boat, in their own way. The Republicans recently shut the Government down! The Democrats have the worst President that our United States has ever had. He and his group are destroying everything sacred about our nation, and this is the second time he was voted in!!! All he lacks is his mustache and turban, which I am sure we will see once his power over us is assured! We had better do something about all of this craziness, and soon, or else we will end up like our friends, the snakes, without a leg to stand on!!!

    • Turnipblood

      did that candy come from a van parked down by the river? You really shouldn’t sample that stuff.

    • mytdawg

      You should have seen the president before him, he was a liar and a thief. Good thing you missed it.

      • strayaway

        If we have to choose between Jeb and Hillary, we will strike out.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        at least Hillary will get on base

      • Renee Reinhardt

        You forgot war criminal.

    • Peter

      Guess you forgot that GW Bush was president in this country when you refer Obama as the worst president ever. Look at the approval ratings. Look who created the downfall of our economy. And realize that its the republicans who makes Obama look bad by blocking everything good that Obama and the democrats are trying to do for this country. And the only ones needing a turban is the Taliban’s a.k.a. the Tea Party.

    • …And thus proving the article’s point (not so much about terrorism but about people living in their own reality).

    • Phil Keast

      OK, I’m honestly curious here, not baiting anyone, or trying to foster discontent.

      While I can see flaws in all groups along the political spectrum, it is obvious to anyone, and everyone, that the shut down of the government was done by the Republican Party in an attempt to blackmail the Democrats, and more importantly President Obama, into diluting an overdue and important program that would benefit many more people than it could inconvenience.

      But, I’m still looking for the evidence that President Obama has done anything that could be construed as making him the worst President that our United States has ever had. He and his group are destroying everything sacred about our nation and that he is a Muslim (let alone a Muslim extremist) who All he lacks is his mustache and turban, which I am sure we will see once his power over us is assured!

      So, keeping in mind that those who assert a fact must provide proof, fact check-able proof. Details proving such claims as the President’s faith and Muslim connections, that he has enacted legislation, foreign policy, or domestic policy that has in anyway diminished or threatened the safety of the USA or its citizens.

      Also keep in mind that legislation that enhances the rights and privileges of the poor and disenfranchised, especially where such improvements fall in line with those of many successful, stable democratic countries, is not a threat to the American way of life or inherently evil (unless of course being a nation that is regressive, discriminatory, racist, and has no respect for fundamental human rights, in which case destroying the American way of life would be a good thing). And no, the “what happens in other countries is irrelevant” argument doesn’t fly. If the USA is the shining beacon of freedom, then it needs to lead, if it is playing catchup that’s not threatening the American way of life, that’s joining the rest of the “free world”.

      • Pipercat

        She lost me on the mustache and turban……

      • Sandy Greer

        Methinks she proves my OP better than I ever could.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        he did do one thing to garner “votes” as worst pres ever,,,,,,,
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        he got elected and the john birch white trash reformed

    • moe/larry & curly keys

      candy samples when young was YUMMMMMMMMMMM

  • mytdawg

    Many of the comments I see coming from these people and their supporters indicates they have a an almost pathological need to lash out at anyone that does not agree with them and threaten them with violence. They seem to really want an armed conflict. I’m not sure they know why they are so angry but they certainly direct most of it at liberals. Apparently liberals have stolen their land, raped their cattle and burned their dinner. They have been led astray by selfish interests and won’t be happy until there is a refinery, well, mine or a war in everybody’s backyard.

  • Sandy Greer

    Tea (Taxed Enough Already) Party protests began in 2009, after Obama was elected. Any correlation? Or just coincidence?

    They morphed into Ugly. The video I saw of TPugs turning on a disabled man was disturbing – to say the least. They wave Confed flags outside the White House, like any other racist. Haters within their ranks say our president is a Muslim, on his knees to Allah, 5x a day.

    ‘Leaders’ like Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz see these things, and do nothing. TPugs do not ‘police’ themselves.

    Hate has infected The Right. Like all communicable diseases – Hate will spread across this nation – if we allow it.

    Just say NO to Hate; say NO to Party of No (GOP) Vote ’em the Hell outta Dodge!

    ‘Cause when things just aren’t ‘right’: Go Left. 😉

    • strayaway

      Answer: correlation. McCain was a big government corporatist Republican who did not represent small government conservatives. A grass roots attempt was made, having some minor successes, to bring the Republican Party back to supporting smaller government. After 2010, the tea party fizzled because it was largely taken over by some who wanted to either destroy it or redirect its energy for their own use. I didn’t see any tea party rallies in 2012. It survives largely as a nebulous punching bag for Democrats and status quo Republicans. Carl Rove is spending big money to route out small government liberty minded Republicans in the primaries. Funny, isn’t it, that Carl Rove and Dick Cheney are now your allies against any perceived small government Republicans.

      What was the name of the guy waving the Confederate flag for instance? If he is such a big deal, then you should know who the guy is. He could be, for instance, someone sent in to have his picture taken to discredit the tea party on liberal websites. I really don’t know who the guy was. i saw the photo all over but no reporter, to my knowledge, asked him anything. You are supposed to believe that he was a tea party guy and act out on faith rather than knowledge.

      Who says our president is a Muslim, on his knees to Allah, 5x a day?I’m sure some people probably say such goofy things but others on this thread make references to tea party people as having pathological needs, being hateful, wanting armed conflict, being paranoid, unreasonable, and as being terrorists. Obviously, progressives can be at least as equally hateful or goofy.

      • Sandy Greer

        Larry Klayman. You asked before; I answered, before – Larry Klayman said our president is a Muslim. How many times do I have to say it?

        WRT guy(s) w/Confed flags – Do names matter? Isn’t it enough Hate and Racism exist? Do we need to know every name of every Hater and every Racist – to know they exist? If YOU were black, and a Confed flag waved outside YOUR house – would you care ‘who’ waves that flag?

        No. YOUR concern would be they’d be burning a cross on your lawn. Or WORSE.

        But, of course, it was Obama, so…
        ~~~~~
        Yeah. TPugs have so little influence, they hold House GOP hostage, and Boehner can’t find his balls. But IF they are only “small government liberty minded Republicans” (with no influence) as YOU infer:

        WHY does Karl Rove spend all that money? He could just swat ’em, and they’d be gone – like any other pest.

        Karl Rove is fighting for his party. He KNOWS The Right is filled with Hate and Racism – come to the forefront since Obama election.

        ^^^He KNOWS American public doesn’t buy what they sell.

        I wish him luck, and hope Moderates gain control of the GOP again.

      • strayaway

        Who I Larry Klayman? He must be a significant figure to you but I have to look him up. Ok, I looked him up, sounds sort of like an Al Sharpton of the right. One guy says something goofy and you extend it to millions of people? Umm…ok.

        Yes it matters who the guy with the flag was if you don’t want to appear naive. I saw a video of Montreal police creating an incident to discredit leftists. How did people figure out they were police. Because they forgot to change their issue police shoes. Same thing with ‘occupy’. it was discredited by our government. The flag guy might have been a tea party guy but neither of us know that and although surrounded by cameramen, no one from the press seemed to have been curious enough to ask him anything. I smell a rat. So I would be cautious about blanket accusations based on a press event.

        Case in point, how does Karl Rove trying to unseat Justin Amash abate hate? What on earth has Justin Amash, of Syrian descent, ever done to promote “Hate and Racism”? I don’t think that’s it at all. What Amash did was sponsor a bill to stop the NSA from spying on us. It almost passed 217-205 with mostly Democrats, to their credit, supporting it. He also voted against the defense appropriations bill. The likes of Karl Rove cannot abide those who don’t play the game. If the moderates you support like Karl Rove do regain total control, you can kiss your privacy rights good-bye.

      • Sandy Greer

        Wait. Are you trying to ‘discredit’ me by suggesting I’m ‘naïve’? ;D I smell a rat.

        What I SAID is that ‘leaders’ like Palin & Cruz speak at the same TPug rally – see/hear Confed flags/Larry K speak – and say NOTHING.

        ^^^Their silence is DEAFENING. And a ‘discredit’ to Honor. TPugs ‘discredit’ themselves when they don’t ‘police’ themselves, and their own LEADERS don’t step up:

        If they don’t want Hate and Racism associated with their efforts – they need to SPEAK UP. At the very least – they lack Courage.

        No. It DOESN’T matter ‘who the guy was with the flag’. We will NEVER know ‘who’ every guy is ‘with the flag’ and beneath the sheets.

        What MATTERS is we have people speak against it.

        And, of course, those who trivialize/minimize it – or deny it – and say we shouldn’t make ‘blanket accusations’. They matter, too – in their own way.

      • strayaway

        How about if I deem myself naive whenever I take things at face value like the time I was taken by the grapefruit guy? You are right about Cruz and Palin being wrong not to say something if they were aware of what the other guy said. I still think you are making assumptions about the flag guy who wasn’t wearing sheets.

        If it makes you feel better, Rand Paul has been on a drive to allow released felons to vote. Paul “told a Kentucky committee that restoring voting rights for nonviolent felons is a positive step toward changing the nation’s flawed “war on drugs,” which, he argued, has led to to disproportionate number of minorities being locked up and stuck in a cycle of poverty and crime.” -Washington Times. Since Paul is considered to be on the tea party end of the spectrum, that should offset Cruz and Palin’s crimes of omission.

        How come no one here is upset about 55 people being killed, probably not all terrorists like Cliven Bundy, with US drones last Saturday?

      • Sandy Greer

        You ‘get to’ think the guy(s) w/Confed flags are ‘rats’ (plants) But ‘assume’ for a moment you’re right:

        TPugs fell for it. Allowed it in. Until/unless they clean up their act, they will never gain traction. That’s why their leaders have to step up.

        JMHO but I’ve never understood why felons – once time is served – CAN’T vote. If our goal is to rehabilitate them enough to participate in society, I mean. So good for Rand Paul. Tho I don’t see why that should make me feel better? What is it you ‘assume’ about me – and how I feel?

        WRT drone strikes in Yemen – Why do YOU ‘assume’ no one is upset?

        A quick Google will show sites where it’s being discussed. MUST we all talk about the same thing – so strayaway doesn’t think no one is upset?

        We all have different ‘issues’ we think need attention. And that’s OK; different strokes for different folks. But we shouldn’t ‘assume’ others don’t care – simply because ours is not on their front burner. 😉

      • strayaway

        I don’t know if they fell for it. It depends in part where it was unfurled relative to the event and for how long. Did someone come along and suggest he pack it up? I don’t know.

        I don’t know how you feel but you seemed to dislike the Confederate flag irregardless of how it got there, that something someone said, and the non-respnse of Cruz and Palin. I thought that I would add some balance to all the dissing with positive notes about Amash and Paul who are leading the charge on a few things I suspect a lot of progressives want even though they are characterized as “tea party”.

        I find it curious that this strange article dissing a group claiming, for instance that tea partiers are, “hoping for our nation to fail” when most of them didn’t even vote for Obama (joke). Somehow a lopsided article oozing contempt for fellow Americans gets written about but no article gets written about 55 dead people killed by our government. Progressives priorities just seem a bit strange sometimes.

      • Sandy Greer

        I dislike Hate, and Racism. And that is what the Confed flag is, waved outside the White House. It’s in-your-face Racism – and it’s Wrong.

        I don’t respect people who see it – and either lack Courage to say it’s Wrong – or think it’s OK, when directed at our president. Whether they voted for him, or not:

        ^^^It’s not The Right Thing, at all. You ‘get to’ think I ‘diss’ TP too much. I can live with the disappointment.

        No surprise you think FP ‘lopsided’ – the surprise is you’re here. But you want to talk drone strikes? I suggest Fox News, Washington Post, RT, Guardian, and/or Al Jazeera.

        ^^^ALL have articles where you may post to your heart’s content. But I think you already knew that. The ‘surprise’ would be if you hadn’t already posted them. Since it’s on your front burner, I mean. 😉

        And, I think Conservative priorities more than a little ‘strange’ sometimes, too. So it seems we’re at an impasse, once again.

      • Pipercat

        His fallacies never cease to amaze me…

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        amazing he be!

      • Sandy Greer

        strayaway is OK; he’s civil. Not like some of the trolls that come out of the woodwork to post here.

        He’s earnest; doesn’t blow smoke. Selected an avatar when I asked. Allows me leeway when we talk. Tries to understand my POV – which makes me want to understand his.

        ^^^As good as it gets, with an Opponent.

        And, when I get aggravated enough, I just stop talking to him for awhile, LOL But I always read him, and don’t burn that bridge (ouch!) 😉

      • Pipercat

        He just pushed the “dog ate my homework” schtick beyond the point of good digestion. He has learned to drop the condescension routine, which is progress I suppose.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        they were arab scumbag terrorists…..
        wanna fuck America? enjoy the 72 virgins

      • Mskby

        “How come no one here is upset about 55 people being killed, probably not all terrorists like Cliven Bundy, with US drones last Saturday?”

        Probably because that is not what the article is about?

      • Mskby

        “No one from the press seemed to have been curious enough to ask him anything”….

        Nor did the other TP’ers…if they disagreed with what he was doing, why didn’t they say anything?

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        where was tea party when bush and CO was OVERspending and crushing us with wars?
        getting the remnants of john birch together. look up who started Jbirch/ then look up tea party starters

      • Fernando Herrera

        It’s interesting you say that about McCain when he and Elizabeth Warren together support the Glass Steagall act…

    • Eg Kbbs

      Might debate that they “morphed into Ugly.” As I remember it, they started out going to Town Hall meetings about the ACA, screaming at the top of their lungs to disrupt the meetings.

      • jeffy

        Ummmm no. Well before that. Bailouts. Stimulus. And other financial debacles. Rick Santelli’s rant on CNBC in February 2009 got the ball rolling on the tea party, well before Obamacareless.

      • Pipercat

        Have you ever watched Santelli? He does a Saint Vitus’ dance and gives me agita. I think he’s on meth…

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        im heavily into markets for 18 yrs; santelli and kudlow are schills

      • Pipercat

        The “duh” squad.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        joe kernan is also a buzzard

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        and where was gap toothed santelli when bush was overspending??????
        f*ck all white trash regressive tea party religious scum

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        How about where was Jeffy when bush was overspending? “Spending” money we didn’t have wasn’t a problem until Obama was elected. Then it became a major issue and that $11 trillion debt magically appeared from nowhere.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        dude————- that’s the biggest faux pas of the crybaby tea(bag) party,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        ” spending” ( perhaps they felt anything UNDER 11 TRILLION is OK)
        “smaller government”!!!
        ( except when states trample individuals rights to do silly things like VOTE or get a legal abortion,,,,or be GAY,,,,, or be BLACK,,,,,or LATIN–
        or moslem or Buddhist or martian)
        ==================================
        do U have any idea how much I would like to fight(legally) glenn beck and Hannity and rush Limbaugh?? I also want to punch “no tits and hating her life” malkin,,,, but hitting chics is socially ‘infra dig’
        =====================================
        allen west might beat my ass as he was a marine

    • Marc J

      Where on earth do you get your information? Turn of the TV propaganda!

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        its reality….. tea party is re formed john birch white trash religious scum,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        funny how NONE appeared when GW was financially screwing us and blasting our rights
        funny aint it?

      • Sandy Greer

        You want sources? I’ve got sources! Links don’t work here, so:

        1) Google: Tea Party mocks disabled man = see a 48sec YouTube video that would give most pause

        2) Google: Larry Klayman Obama Koran = see an approx 2min video. Many other articles on Larry K also.

        3) Google: Tea Party Confederate flag at White House = pull up any number of articles and photos. Enjoy.

        Not that I expect you will, of course. You’re far too busy, ‘upvoting’ your own posts, it seems. Nice touch, that.

    • Well Done

      Watch as your gay crackhead president loses the senate in December. he already lost Congress. He and his racist punk AG are goin’ down. Will be way too fun watching you wankers blame [whomsoever pops into your tiny mind]

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        yep—
        just like he lost in 2012
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        keep crying

      • TEA Party

        The American people lost in 2012… but just enough weren’t smart enough to see it

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        of course,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, that would explain record profits in stock market since then; would explain slowing and shrinking deficit( debt still rising),,,,would explain housing recovery( both in prices and new starts) and would explain how we are slowly recovering economically in spite of republican obstruction in congress
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        or; should I say,,,,,,
        “praise jeeeeesus”

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        hmmmmm–pops in my tiny mind?
        how about joe walsh,,,,, or cliven bundy,,,,,maybe Donald sterling? Michael (R) grimm?
        ===============================================
        silly me

    • jeffy

      Maybe you should look up the Rick Santelli Tea Party rant, and you will see what started it all, and that it was about gross financial negligence.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        and where was scumbag santelli when bush was financially screwing us?
        he was with tea party in NON existence.

      • jeffy

        You probably ought to look back at the history of Santelli rants before you open your trap and reveal your ignorance. I think there’s a saying about that.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        santelli never went after bush as he has Obama,,,Ive ben BIG ( financially as well as a watcher) of CNBC and the crybabies such as kudlow and kernan and skankbag bartiromo as well as santelli since 1995
        care to show your brilliance further?
        ==============================
        I miss mark haynes

    • moe/larry & curly keys

      sandy— we all know that tea bag party was RE formed john birchers,,,,,,, white trash crybabies who got pissed at a well spoken educated charismatic black man as president. funny how they didn’t cry when bush overspent and screwed with our rights

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        These are the same people who believe we magically inherited a recession and an $11 trillion debt on January 20, 2009.

    • radsenior

      I agree totally. They have morphed into the old KKK wearing suits and playing music. Virginians and other southern states(North and South Carolina to Texas) fall back on tradition. Tradition to southern states means holding onto bigotry, discrimination, prejudice and hatred. Tradition refers back to olden times when blacks were called “boy” and the Confederate flag flew over state houses. Seeking out history, we remember the hatred and segregation, the hangings and race riots and men wearing sheets terrorizing black communities. That still happens today in certain segments of the country. Go to concerts of Ted Nugent, Trace Adkins, Lynyrd Skynyrd and Hank Williams jr. and wait till they play Bonnie Blue Flag or the Ballad of Curtis Lowe and the Confederate flags start flying. They call it pride or heritage, but it pure hatred of change and people of color!

    • Patriotfire

      You people are the ones bringing the downfall of the U.S. not Tea Party and Constitutionalists. The founding fathers would be on the Tea Partiers side if they were alive today. You people are the real enemy of the Republic. LONG LIVE THE U.S. AND THE CONSTITUTION AGAINST ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.

  • vivienne

    What they don’t know is that they are being manipulated by the Kochs and other, power hungry, sociopaths. The 1% started this movement and fed the religious zealots a load of BS and sent them on their way to tear down our government. If these, power mad, people attacked our country with tanks and planes and bombs we would know we were at war, but instead they’re using money and influence to steal our country. One day the teabaggers will realize how they’ve been used and it will be too late.

  • @CamelotK

    I agree totally. Anybody with any sense has already left the Republican Party, or is in the process of learning and leaving. By representing only their moneyed interests, and insulting every other single group in America, they’ve narrowed their supporters down to the racists, right wing terrorists, and general nut jobs – or Tea Party. The Teabaggers have succeeded in one important task, very well. They have absolutely destroyed the Republican Party. It is a loose group of nuts and money, now. So strange.

  • nickdqwk

    By Allen Clifton’s own definition any TeaParty “patriot” can equally say that the progressive republicans and the progressive democrats are domestic terrorists.

  • ExSF

    Honestly, I don’t believe I’ve ever read a column that was so thoroughly, profoundly wrong headed, from start to finish. It’s extremely depressing to contemplate that anyone would actually believe this drivel, but evidently this author does. Heaven help him, and the United States of America.

  • sybilll

    This author has never read a single thread over at Democratic Underground, I take it. They openly call for the demise of capitalism and the USA as it is currently known. They moved from Socialism discussions 6 years ago to open calls for Marxism en route to Communism. Wake the hell up.

    • Renee Reinhardt

      I am awake and I want you to break down the vocabulary you are throwing around. Definitions, to go with all you claim. Here’s mine: Terrorism: the use of coercion and/or violence for political agenda. It doesn’t say anyone has to be killed, etc., as I hear people saying things like ‘they are nothing like ___ terrorists because they are only threatening, they haven’t killed anyone’. Then I read a blunder of misused terms and I am asking for the ground to be cleared based on actual definitions and application, folks.

    • moe/larry & curly keys

      shall we get back quickly to those sterling republican policies of past 25 yrs which led America to such wonderful places at home and abroad?

    • MLR

      I think we all know there’s radicals on the right and on the left. The difference is that at least the left admits it. But the right doesn’t admit a damn thing. They could be proven wrong beyond a reasonable doubt and they still won’t admit anything.

      • jeffy

        My principles in regard to the purpose of government align with the framers, so that puts me nowhere near extremism.

    • Pipercat

      En route by way of Saul Alinsky blvd?

  • Well Done

    LOL what a load of douches on this board. As your gay crackhead non-American President dismantles your country, you blame the people who can see what a aszwhole he is? Too fun!

    • Renee Reinhardt

      Your comments are so very redundant (copy/paste type) and do nothing constructive while saying nothing worth responding to. I am simply done rereading the same abusive stupidity. Grow up.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        he faw down an’ go BOOM

    • felipe63

      Scientists who study human sexuality have repeatedly found that men who are the most vehement in in their accusations of homosexuality in others are the same men who get most turned on while viewing gay porn.

      Your repeated and baseless statements that Obama is gay reveal that you are a seriously conflicted closet case. That you have fixated on Obama tells us that your greatest desire is for you have your a** pounded by a big black d*ck. Your rage is is clearly a sign of your sexual frustration because you haven’t come to terms with your carnal desires.

      Look dude, it’s the 21st century and it’s perfectly okay for you to s*ck as much c*ck and have as many men f*ck your butt as you see fit, just play safe.

      BTW – I didn’t vote for Obama

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        im loving this—- and that U didn’t vote for Obama and wrote this means ( to me) that sane rightwingers still are in America
        ……………….. hope U don’t view any tea party cretin as VIABLE

      • felipe63

        Lol – dude I am so far to the left that I view Obama as as Repub-lite. I live in a solidly blue state and can afford to throw away my vote on the Green Party without hurting the Dem candidate.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        well at least U know Obama isn’t left left left wing….
        FOX “news” will NOT like that :))

    • Pipercat

      This isn’t Yahoo!, you can say asshole, shit, fuck or douchenozzle…

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        then he MUST repent in his sunday voodoo session( at tax free church)

    • moe/larry & curly keys

      enjoy Hillary keeping the white trash religious scumbags —like you— crying…..crying,,,,,,,,,,,crying………..
      “BENGHAZI”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • French_Swede

    You couldn’t be more wrong if you tried. This article is just a bunch of horse squeeze.

    • moe/larry & curly keys

      well; the white ttrash regressive crybaby religious(see: voodoo) tea bag party is pretty f*cked up– after all; where O where O where were they prior to jan 2009??? NO WHERE…. they were created ( as 2nd john birch) to get after a black liberal centrist well spoken president who scares white trash because NOW equal rights for ALL americans will be a reality. white trash doesn’t like this–period. they want THEIR jeeeeeeeesus in legisloation,,,no ther religion; no other color skin and women?? please step back2 where U belong– biblicly in the past!
      cant wait til a few of these scumbags fire upon federal agents–
      “obamas coming after our guns” ,,,,,ok sure–

      • Pipercat

        Horse squeeze?

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        actually,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, TEGU droppings 🙂

  • Renee Reinhardt

    Terrorism: Coercion and /or violence to forward political agenda.

  • MLR

    I totally agree with this article. In fact, I’ve believed it for a long time, which is why I always tell people that it’s a big, huge mistake to simply dismiss the tea party and laugh at what they say and do. No, these people should be taken seriously and if you think they are not dangerous, think again. Our dismissive attitude toward the tea party could be our downfall.

    • TEA Party

      Please, don’t laugh, try something new there little progressive… think. Then when you see that we are really sane people in an insane world. JOIN US and make a statement at the ballot box in November. Vote these fence turtles out. Get the lawyers out and put conservative people in.

  • TEA Party

    This poor sap doesn’t have a clue what the TEA Party is or what is stands for. So allow me to illuminate a little…

    1) TEA – Taxed Enough Already. – As long as Jessie Jacksons jailed kid is getting over 140K a year is pay, it is proof

    2) Constitution – A document that we don’t seem to be using that was constructed to protect the people from the government

    3) Violent overthrow of the Government – to be conducted via the ballot box … that was BALLOT not BULLET

    4) Racist – An attorney General and President who refuse to prosecute law breakers because of the color of their skin. TEA party membership is open to all races and genders and sexual orientations. Just because you may be a homosexual doesn’t make you a bad person. I may not agree with your lifestyle and I may talk to you about it, but I will not harass you about it.
    5) Religion – If you have a faith, please feel free to practice it. This nation WAS founded on Judeo Christian principles, but it was founded in such a way as to avoid being a Theocracy. Anyone who can understand history understands that not only were we populated by people running form religious persecution, but founding fathers like Thomas Jefferson made sure that religious freedom was cared for. The first amendment protects religious freedom, NOT freedom form religion.

    6) Second amendment.- the amendments were considered in their relative importance. The first was freedom of the press and religion and the second was the freedom to bear arms by militia. Did I just scare you? See10 U.S.C. § 311 : US Code – Section 311: Militia: composition and classes where you will find that, under law, the militia is … well everyone. The founding fathers knew that if the government got too tyrannical, it was up the population to take control again. But the TEA Party isn’t saying that we should rebel.

    • felipe63

      1 – Nice way to race bait by pointlessly name dropping Jesse Jackson. The kid has his own name, use it. You’re gonna worry about a paltry $140K while cheerleading for a trillion dollar + war based on lies? Your priorities are strange.

      2 – What is the Tea Party doing to stop Obama from executing US citizens (who had never been charged with a crime) with flying killer robots? NOTHING. Don’t talk to us about the Constitution while you ignore the most egregious violations of it.

      3 – Fair enough

      4 – Racism is the belief that one race is superior to another. Don’t believe me, crack a real dictionary like OED or Merriam Webster. While I not a fan of the spineless AG or Obama, I have not seen anything that leads me to think that they believe one race is superior to another race.

      The religion part is complete and utter bullshit. The word (or variations of the word) Christian do not appear anywhere in the Constitution. However the Treaty of Tripoli of 1796 clearly states: “As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion…..” This treaty was unanimously ratified by the Senate of the time and signed by then President John Adams, one of those founding fathers you claim wanted a christian country.

      5 – You seem to be overlooking the requirement that militia members be under the age of 45, nor does it apply to women who are not a member of the National Guard, so no, it’s not ‘everyone’ like you state. That is a blatantly false assertion on your part, what intellectually honest people would call a ‘lie’.

    • moe/larry & curly keys

      hmmmmm,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
      whats the % of non Caucasians in tea party rallies?
      ==============================================
      take ur time,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, this will require some effort

  • Ronald Mack

    These Teabaggers are full of the people the Republican party created with their Southern strategy that was adopted in the late sixties. The Tea Party is the bastard step-child of the Republican Party. The monster they have created has come home to roost, and will eventually tear the party apart. I hate to see it happen. No matter how bad I dislike the Republican party we as a nation need the two party system. If one party has complete control with no opposition to keep it in check. Then the controlling party will run amok creating all kinds of problems. Don’t misunderstand me; I am a Liberal to the core, but I am also a realist. Nothing corrupts like absolute power.

  • bpless

    I think they want to turn the clock back to the “roaring twenties” which was only “roaring” for the well-off. The rest of the work force was living in poverty, women didn’t have any rights, and people of color were subjected to all types of hatred and violence. These people won’t stop until we have another civil war and our country is destroyed. I think they are terrorists. Anyone who tries to destroy our government by their untruths (they don’t even know what our Constitution says), preaching the use of weapons to gain their way, and trying to divide our country into groups based on hatred are terrorists. These people are full of hate. They claim to be Christians but the Bible I read can’t be the same one they read or pretend to read.

    • gian keysTOOEASY flat mom

      sad but true,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, white trash scumbags who want THEIR version of VOODOO( see: religion) in legislation

  • James Schroder

    That’s OK, guys. As a solid liberal and some would call “leftist”, I didn’t bring my gun (this time) either.

  • David Rosenblum

    Right. When the federal government that they hate was spending $1 trillion+ on a war based on lies, killing 4,400+ Americans in the process (and wounding/maiming/paralyzing 32,000+) , where was their outrage then? Oh, but now that there’s a Democrat and a black man in the White House, now they’re outraged!

    • Laurissa Graves

      David…Call people Racist much? And what lie’s are these you speak of? The one’s where the Dem’s voted to invade and fund the war in Iraq? Remember it passed the House 296-133 and passed the Senate by a vote of 77-23.

  • cdb5556

    well, this site obviously will censor posts that want a different point presented. I tried to link to the Tea Party Patriots actual website and my post was not published. I guess that this site may not want their liberal readers here to actually research what the group does support, vs. believe what this author purports them to be about. If you do look at their site, their principals are far from “hating” the federal government, wanting a Christian theocracy, being a terrorist group, etc. But since the “about” portion at the bottom lists the author as one who “stirs the pot for the Progressive movement”, I suppose I should not be surprised that he might spice the pot with a few lies and mistakes.

    • Jason

      No, it’s that putting links in posts is what spammers do. We know exactly what the Tea Party stands for, no matter what the pretty words on a website say. Words are cheap; the actions of the Tea Party have spoken far louder.

      • cdb5556

        Words are definitely cheap, Jason. Words like a 9 trillion national debt being “unpatriotic”. words like the ACA will let you “keep your plan/doctor”, and save the average American family “2,500 dollars in premiums” per year. Words like “the problem is I’m the president of the U.S., not the emperor”. Now, should I believe all those words? OR should I believe the actions? BTW, what actions of the tea party would make you believe any of the tripe the author purports in his article? Other than supporting more conservative republican candidates that the “establishment” republican supports I can’t really identify any diabolical actions. Enlighten me.

      • Jason

        “the problem is I’m the president of the U.S., not the emperor”… Nice cherrypicking, but that’s your side’s style, taking things out of context and ignoring the overall story. I’d list off a number of ways the Tea Party is the home of traitors, but you’d just ignore them or blather on. The simple fact is, it’s all true. I’ve even experienced it personally, with a gun shoved in my face by a Tea Partier when I tried to exercise my right to speak. So, you can blather on about what Obama MIGHT do, like so many ignorant saps; I know exactly what the TP HAS done.

      • cdb5556

        @Jason, I hope you filed an assault charge as is appropriate to do when someone “shoves a gun in your face”. And as far as “my side’s style”, your side (I am assuming you support the author of the piece we are discussing), says tea party members are: terrorists like the jihadists in Afghanistan, hate the federal government, want a Christian theocracy, and are hatemongers. Not my words, the words of the “pot stirring progressive” author. Now is “taking things out of context” just one sided, or is Mr. Clifton and yourself doing the same? Again, I point out that the group’s founding principles are there for all to see on their website.

      • Laurissa Graves

        Jason….”I’d list off a number of ways the Tea Party is the home of traitors, but you’d just ignore them or blather on”…The simple fact is, it’s all true.”…
        ——
        No, really..please enlighten us as to this Factual list of yours and by the way I was held-up by a black guy with a Knife when I tried to exercise my right to walk to the store, so what’s your point?

    • Actually no, it’s because they’ve set up the comments to not allow links from anybody. If you’ve been commenting on the site for a while, you know this. To get around that, format your link as follows: TeaPartyPatriots DOT com.

      You’re rather quick to jump to conclusions, aren’t you?

      • cdb5556

        BB, thanks for the instruction. Glad to hear they don’t censor here. I actually just responded to a link on a facebook page, so was not even aware of this site. And unlike the author who paints the tea party with a broad brush based on some unsupported assumptions, I try not to jump to conclusions.

    • Otis Django

      The Tea Party is the Republican’s “FRANKENSTEIN”. Dang thing done got outta control.

      • cdb5556

        I’d say a better analogy would be the Republican’s BATMAN…focusing on the things that the party talked about, but just would not or could not do. (Less government, conservative values, etc.), all the while being misunderstood, vilified, and underappreciated.

      • Otis Django

        Interesting, when you consider that Red states actually get more money from the federal government than they actually send in.

      • cdb5556

        that’s a non-sequitur argument, when the federal government borrows 40 cents out of ever dollar it “send” anywhere and has a current debt of 17.5 trillion. I am in a red state, and would vote for any leader that would have the courage to say, ‘we can’t afford the pork anymore”.

      • Rob Bailey

        Jeebus. Where you ‘gonna cut government, Princess? Wars (defense)? Nope. You guys like big penis substitutes that keep feriners like ISIS from cutting off your Neanderthal-like heads. Medicare & Social Security? Nope – most white old people are on both and are a guaranteed (R) vote.
        OK, I’ve covered defense and the entitlements. So you cut education and investment in infrastructure? Fantastic idea! Try to compete with the Asians and Europeans over the next few decades! Businesses LOVE uneducated employees, crappy highways and airports, and bridges that fall down.
        Finally. Ahhh. That incredible juxtaposition of “Less government and conservative values”. Friggin’ priceless. Less government = states passing laws to ban gay marriage, forcing Jeebus on kids, preventing women from the right to choose how & when they reproduce… Makes sense! Yay Freedom!

      • Laurissa Graves

        Rob Bailey….”Where you ‘gonna cut government, Princess?”
        ———
        There are many places to cut Wasteful Govt spending, you could start with not sending Millions of American Tax Payer dollars in Tax Refunds to Illegal’s…How about that Rob?

        Oxnard Calif the IRS sent 2,507 refunds worth $10,395,874

        Raleigh North Carolina IRS sent 2,408 refunds worth $7,284,212

        Phoenix Ariz IRS sent 2,047 refunds worth $5,558,608

        Palm Beach Gardens, Fla IRS sent 1,972 refunds worth $2,256,302

        San Jose, Calif IRS sent 1,942 refunds worth $5,091,027

        Arvin Calif. IRS sent 1,846 refunds worth
        $3,298,877

  • Otis Django

    The Tea Party types want a CASTE/RACE BASED THEOCRACY. What most of them fail to realize is that the protections of the federal government such as the EPA, minimum wage laws, disability insurance, etc. actually benefit THEIR KIND.

    Most Red states actually get MORE FEDERAL MONEY than they actually send in.

  • suburbancuurmudgeon

    I’d love to see these clowns try to take on the US military. Hell, you don’t even need soldiers anymore. Waste their asses with drones.

    • Laurissa Graves

      A lot of those Teaparty members are EX-Military and many in the Military support the TeaParty and would never turn on their Family, Friends and Citizens.

  • Amy Engelsdorfer

    I wish I could disagree with anything said in this article. Sadly, I can’t.