It’s Time For Liberal Christians To Reclaim Christianity From Conservatives Who’ve Distorted the Faith

jesusfacepalmIt’s not exactly a secret that I don’t think many so-called “conservative Christians” are, in fact, Christians. I just don’t believe you can be a supporter of the pro-greed, pro-death penalty, pro-gun, anti-helping the poor political party and yet still claim you follow real Christian values. That doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me.


In fact, the right-wing takeover (and distortion) of Christianity has done nothing but drive people away from the faith in record numbers. And I don’t blame people for running away from Christianity like it’s the plague. Not when people like this are often “the face” of the religion.

That being said, it’s time for liberal Christians to rise up and reclaim the religion that Republicans have severely tarnished over the last several decades. You see, I am one of tens of millions of liberal Christians in this country – and we’re a hell of a lot more like Jesus than our conservative counterparts. It sickens me that when most people think of Christianity in this country (at least in the political sense) the first people who come to mind are clowns like Mike Huckabee or Ted Cruz.

It’s disgusting and it has to stop. The Republican party represents Christian values about as much as the NRA represents a common sense approach to gun regulations.

Hell, Republicans have become so extreme that several have insinuated Pope Francis doesn’t “get Christianity.”

Which is why I implore liberal and progressive Christians to become more vocal. And by that I don’t mean that we need to force our views on other people. That’s the opposite of faith. Besides, as our First Amendment states, everyone in this country is afforded the freedom of (or from) religion. In other words, religion (or lack thereof) is everyone’s own personal choice and it’s nobody else’s damn business what that choice might be.

Because it’s not faith that corrupts man, it’s man who corrupts faith. The world wouldn’t be better off without billions of people not having faith, but it would be much better off if humans stopped trying to force their views on other people; views that are often influenced by their own corrupt and selfish desires for power and control.


The world in which I want to live is one where Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Atheists and people of any other sort of faith or spiritual belief can stand beside each other and live in peaceful harmony amongst one another, because everyone minds their own damn business when it comes to their own personal views about what happens to us after we die.

Because let’s be honest, that’s really what it all boils down to.

And while there are great sites and groups like The Christian Left or Kissing Fish who fight for liberal Christian causes and to reclaim Christianity from those who distort the faith, we still need to get more vocal. We need more progressive/liberal Christians to start fighting back against the conservative charlatans who, for far too long, have driven away millions of people from a faith by misrepresenting the true values for which it stands.

True Christian values include love, hope, acceptance, providing for the needy and helping the poor – not hate, fear, judgement and vilifying the most vulnerable among us as moochers just looking for a handout.



Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • buricco

    I’ve said it just this morning. We can’t let the fringe speak for us.

  • empf

    Amen. I have an atheist friend who says that she appreciates the Christians out there who do try to live their faith as Jesus taught it. And she does believe the world is better because of those people. Truly, the right has perverted the faith to something I cannot stomach.

    • Walverine Slayer

      If you support homosexual activity and abortion, you don’t know the faith.

      • Daniel Schealler

        Go ahead and show us where Jesus forbade either of those things.

        We’ll wait. 🙂

      • Walverine Slayer

        “Thou shall not kill.” Abortion is murder. Also, read Mark 10 when Jesus makes it clear marriage is between a man and a woman. Paul also expounds on this by stating that homosexual sex is an abomination.

        Next.

      • Walverine Slayer

        It should also be noted that whenever the Bible addresses gay sex- Old or New Testament- it views it as an abomination.

      • Ellen H.

        So do you also abhor all the other things that are abominations including divorce, pork, shellfish, mixed fabrics, and tattoos just to mention a few? If you just cherry pick Leviticus 18:22 and ignore the surrounding context and don’t know the original translation or the historical context, then you don’t have a proverbial leg to stand on.

      • Walverine Slayer

        No foods are unclean per Jesus. This was also mentioned in Peter’s vision in Acts.

        Be gone, Satan!

      • Ellen H.

        If you think I’m Satan, then you have real issues.

      • Walverine Slayer

        You are corrupted by Satan with your moral relativism.

      • Ellen H.

        Have you ever read Matthew 7:1-5 or so? Or is your actual name Enid Strict?

      • You’ve Been Trolled!

        Still the whore you were in high school?

      • David Markham

        Sounds like you’re saying the Bible isn’t just a big bag of useful verses you can pull out and use for justification anytime you don’t like something. What a concept!

      • Ellen H.

        I know! Exciting thought, isn’t it. 🙂

      • Ellen H.

        Did you know that according to Biblical scholars the word homosexuality wasn’t in any of Paul’s letters until more recent translations? The Greek word that Paul used was more akin to masterbaters than homosexuals.

      • Walverine Slayer

        Romans 1 makes it pretty clear that sexual acts between two men or two women is a sin without using any questionable terminology.

      • Ellen H.

        Two words: Historical context. In Romans 1:26-27 Paul is discussing gentile/pagan behavior and using that as an example.

      • Walverine Slayer

        It was wrong then and it is wrong now. If God wanted men to fornicate with men and women to fornicate with women, then same sex reproduction would be humanly possible.

      • Daniel Schealler

        You’re presuming to know the mind of God in that the foremost and sole divine purpose of sex is for reproductive purposes.

        For all you know, God could have fulfilled more than one purpose when he designed the human sex drive. Reproduction may have been one of them. But so too could joy, intimacy and empathy have been divine purposes for the human sex drive.

        If you claim to know the mind of God, then that would be arrogance.

        If you cannot claim to know the mind of God, then you cannot rule out these alternate purposes for human sexuality as being divinely sanctioned.

        This, in turn, undermines that line of argumentation against homosexual sex.

      • You’ve Been Trolled!

        You’re a lice infested butt pirate!

      • Daniel Schealler

        Yes, but I assure you that my lice are free-range non-GMO and gluten free. Me harty.

      • NYCTim

        That wasn’t very Christian of you.

      • Dennis L. Chapman

        The gift of reproduction is on[y found in Heterosexual relations, what other alternate purpose gives that incredible a gift??

      • Daniel Schealler

        Sex has alternate purposes than just reproduction (which I think you acknowledge above). Reproduction is only a gift when the would-be primary caregivers want it. When they don’t, reproduction stops being a gift and instead becomes a burden.

        So when people want sex for non-reproductive purposes but don’t want reproduction, we have birth control technologies for that.

        We also have the technology to reproduce without the need for sex.

        So sex isn’t only about reproduction, and reproduction isn’t only about sex.

        There’s a link, sure. But that link has never been absolute. There’s always been fuzziness around the edges. Technology has merely highlighted the fact by giving people more options.

      • Dennis L. Chapman

        Do you realize you speak of sex in a clinical form, not once do you elevate it to love for each other and the gift from that love!

      • Daniel Schealler

        I’m speaking clinically because, in stark contrast to yourself, I’m trying to be clear and precise about what it is that I stand for. I invite criticism where others run from it.

        Obfuscation is the first resort of liars and scoundrels. 😉

      • Ellen H.

        So the only reason people marry is for reproduction? I guess infertile couples, older couples, and those who don’t want to have children should break up.

      • Ellen H.

        I had a feeling you were a troll, but as nuts as some right wingers are, it can be hard to tell.

      • NYCTim

        Troll — That is YOU saying that, not the Bible, not Jesus or not anybody you CLAIM is saying that. So do us all a favor and stop lying (that’s a sin, you know) and shut up with your nonsense.

      • Daniel Schealler

        1) Jesus did not provide ‘Thou shall not kill’. Moses did. Allegedly.

        2) Mark 10 does not forbid homosexual activity.

        In your conversation thus far with Ellen H. all your examples forbidding either of these things has to come from sources other than Jesus.

        Interesting, no?

      • Walverine Slayer

        Paul’s teachings are infallible. You will burn in hell for you whorish ways.

      • Daniel Schealler

        Do you agree that disobedient children are worthy of death? Because Paul included disobedience towards parents as part of the list if ills that are deserving of death.

        Romans 1:29-32

        I’m sure, of course, that you have a wonderful interpretation as to how the disobedience to parents thing doesn’t count, but the other stuff does. Confirmation bias is great like that. 🙂

      • dan bosh

        If you can’t figure out right from wrong you need prayers.Jesus didn’t have to mention every detail that’s why we have a brain.

      • Daniel Schealler

        The point that was in contention (that has since been deleted) was that homosexuality and abortion were wrong because Jesus (allegedly) forbade them.

        That was the point I was addressing.

        I agree that we should use our brains to help distinguish right from wrong. I think that there are good ways and bad ways of doing this.

        I think that ethical philosophy is the best method because it takes in the maximum amount of nuance and input, and allows for rigorous internal critique and improvement as new information is acquired..

        I think that prayer is a bad method because it lacks a reality check.

      • Dennis L. Chapman

        God,Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are one, so in essence Jesus/God did put forth “thou shalt not Kill!!

      • Daniel Schealler

        Depends on your theology.

        As a lapsed former Catholic, I the trinity I disbelieve in is the trinity in which is that God is the Father, God is the Son, and God is the Holy Spirit. But that The Father is not the Son, and the Son is not the Spirit, and the Spirit is not the Father.

        I wouldn’t bother disbelieving in any of the others, because you’re all heretics anyway. 😛

        In seriousness though: In what conception of Christian theology is Moses equivalent to Jesus? Because that’s a new one.

      • NYCTim

        Yeah, THOU SHALT NOT KILL. How many thousands of gun-owning American dumbasses violate that one every year? You’re a moron, one of those Bible-thumpers who cherry-picks passages and ignores the majority of it because it doesn’t suit your very narrow, hate-filled agenda.

      • You’ve Been Trolled!

        May your whore mother die of cancer.

      • NYCTim

        LOL. Clown

      • You’ve Been Trolled!

        Maybe she will get raped by ISIS.

      • NYCTim

        That Troll asshole deleted all of his messages. No surprise. They probably took his computer away from him at the crazy house.

      • David Markham

        And don’t forget most fundamentalists support the death penalty, even though they have a saviour who was murdered through the unrighteous application of a death penalty.

      • NYCTim

        There is an immense amount of hypocrisy and stupidity from the people who claim to be Christians. They claim that God speaks to them. So then why don’t they listen? They’re too stupid to hear the real message.

      • Dennis L. Chapman

        Jesus was without sin, that is the difference!

      • Dennis L. Chapman

        God did not say thou shalt not defend yourself!, Think about the difference!!

      • NYCTim

        The difference is you’re an idiot. You’re also trying to speak for God. Only Tea Bagger dumbasses do that. You all think God speaks directly to you, yet you ignore God’s most basic rules. Again, THOU SHALT NOT KILL!!!

      • Dennis L. Chapman

        You have no cogent argument, only screams of illiterate rantings! Thanks, but no thanks!

      • NYCTim

        Naturally, you reject common sense. It’s not a surprise.

      • dan bosh

        Jesus didn’t condemn a lot of bad things he figured if we use our common sense we would realize murdering babies and gay sex goes without saying a word,for Christ sakes ( I say that in a nice way) use your brain.

    • inamomentoffaith

      1:21 Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn’t worship him as God or even give him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result, their minds became dark and confused.

      The bible tells us satan comes disguised as angel of light and I believe he wrote this article

      • dan bosh

        Good point it would take the devil to confuse people this much,it’s mind boggling.

    • Jeannette K. Miller

      My husband is atheist and I am conservative Christian Catholic. My husband says liberal Christians are Fraud. Especially people like the Clinton

      • dan bosh

        You’re husband is right.

    • Dennis L. Chapman

      The leftist Dems have shunned God and even voted God out of the Dem platform! Then you judge the Reps as not being the right kind of Christians, What’s with that?

  • Cemetery Girl

    I hear it a lot, “oh, so you aren’t a real Christian.” Believing in loving others, caring for those in need, knowing as a human I will sometimes fail but that doesn’t mean I quit trying… nothing like that matters. What matters is how hard you push other people to be Christian (since we are to be fishers of men) and how passionately you tell people they’re going to burn in Hell for homosexuality and abortion. I have accepted that I’m a Christian, but not a “real” one. It’s ok though, I don’t want to be lumped with the “real” ones. I always hate to see the look of expectation that I see when some people find out I’m Christian. The look of they are expecting to be berated for the things they have done. I don’t like people expecting me to hound them, criticize them, and insist they attend the same church as me (because it’s the only way to be a real Christian.)

    • You’ve Been Trolled!

      Slut!

  • annum004

    There’s good qualities in both liberal and conservative christianity.

    Would be nice if they both leave politics out of the equation.

    • Daniel Schealler

      Religion is politics.

      • annum004

        Not christian if that’s the case.

      • Daniel Schealler

        In Mark 10 when Jesus said that ‘what God has joined together, let no one separate’, that was a policy statement regarding divorce. That’s politics.

        Religion is politics. Even Christianity.

        Religion isn’t government, however. Or at least, it shouldn’t be: That is bad for government, the governed, and the religion.

      • annum004

        You’re right. Secular marriage and secular religion is bad for all… Except for those who stand to profit.
        Now, regarding God, per se, no strings are attached to the State… Including religion and marriage.

        Where religion took a bad turn is the 501C3, among other things… Patriarchy being a sore spot for me.

        Politics has nothing to do with God without the usual distortions.

      • Daniel Schealler

        In terms of ‘secular marriage’, I want to check first before I respond.

        Do you object to the notion of a secular civil union?

        The idea being that a civil union is the state recognition of a committed pair bond between consenting adults, and conveying particular rights and privileges, such as (for example) supporting a foreign national civil partner’s application for residency.

        A secular civil union in the sense that it has has all the secular trappings that typically go with marriage, just not with the M word or any religious context.

      • annum004

        What God has joined together isn’t secular, but sovereign. Recognition by the State is secular.

        You trade-in rights for licensed privileges with the State.

        I prefer sovereignty over chattel status.

        Each to his/her own.

        The politics, marriage, God and religion you’re referring to is secular.

      • Daniel Schealler

        Secular means neutral regarding religion – neither for any religion or lack thereof, nor against any religion or lack thereof.

        You can’t have a secular religion. That’s a contradiction. It’s like saying you can draw a circle with corners on a flat two-dimensional plane.

        Just to check my reading of you: You’re okay with it if people who are not you pursue and register a civil union with the state and are granted rights and privileges by the state, such as visitation rights at a hospital or the right of a partner to migrate.

        Is that accurate? If not, what did I get wrong?

      • annum004

        I don’t understand your question but I’ll try.

        Secular, being neutral, means that God, religion and marriage has no place in politics.

        Civil unions, 501C3’s, licensed marriages, State recognition of any kind, including social security, drivers license, ownership, titles, banking statements, fishing license, registration, credit cards, business license, employment, unions, US citizens, etc… are property of the State whereas, you forfeit your natural, sovereign American Rights, for Privileges.

        I don’t expect anything good to come out of all that, and nothing does. I’m not surprised about the problems you mentioned.

        Another sore spot for me is when a child is born, he/she automatically gets a Social Security Number before the age of majority, and enters into a legally binding contract with the State… unconscionably. -Not to mention, the children of illegals.

      • Daniel Schealler

        Secular, being neutral, means that God, religion and marriage has no place in politics.

        Actually, no.

        Secular means that something is neutral regarding religion or the lack thereof.

        America has a secular government. But it does not have secular politics. Every time a candidate for presidency asserts that God told them to run for office, they endorse a religious position. That is not what secular politics would look like.

        ‘Politics’ doesn’t mean republican or democrat, conservative or liberal. Those are political position. Politics is the conversation that takes place between those positions. ‘Politics’ is to do with what the policy will be, and who gets to set the policy. Actually setting and enforcing policy is government.

        Every time the bible makes a statement about how people should or shouldn’t live, that’s politics.

      • annum004

        Of course, the term “politics” can apply to communication beyond just the government. -But this topic has everything to do with the government being tied-in one way or another.

        According to Christianity, in its true sense, a discussion with the Sovereign God isn’t political.

        Dualistic rationale led some of us to the point of creating a liberal VS conservative form of Christianity. -But that doesn’t neccessarily make it right, or beneficial for anyone.

        According to my understanding of Christianity, dualism is the result of the partaking of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Our minds are now wired that way, religious or not… Good/evil, heaven/hell, profit/loss, beginning/end, black/white, rich/poor, liberal/conservative, etc.. Our technology cow-tied into dualism as well as our hypothesis in common core science. Our computers, ranging between on/off signals and all the possible combinations between those 2 dualistic extremes, leaves us with an automated, digital form of survival rather than a lineal integration with life.

        Christianity, in its true sense, isn’t dualistic or political upon conversing with the Sovereign God, nor does it belong in politics in this context because it’s a private affair with the soul. Many think there is no soul. Therefore, no mechanism is available to relate with any emergent properties beyond the cause of physics. -So each to their own.

        The fiduciary with the Sovereign God is compromised with dual agency, co-mingling the Church with the State, whereas, the Church represents “We the People” on behalf of Sovereign Christianity, not liberal or conservative, nor a 501C3 religion.

  • Ron Hussey

    There’s a bit of a problem, Abortion, and Gay Marriage are a definite affront to Jesus, and God. Also, the removal of God from society, and fighting for the removal of any mention of the Cristian religion may also be a problem for Liberal Democrats. I assume if you support that, then you are part of that debauchery.

    • jenisedai

      No, I’m sorry, but in your interpretation those two things are an “affront to Jesus and God”. This is your interpretation. It’s not set in stone in the Bible, and there are even hints that those things were not only not affronts but were accepted.
      As the article says, liberal Christians respect the rights of others, which means that there isn’t a need to push the Christian religion into every facet of society. If it is welcomed by the participants than it will be there. If it is forced then it isn’t based on faith- and that’s not what we’re called to do. Preach, yes; share, yes; force? No.

      • Walverine Slayer

        Jesus said love one another, not condone every action people do. Jesus did speak to marriage as being between a man and woman. Paul also spoke to this in his letters. Abortion is the deliberate ending of human life. That is murder.

        The problem with liberals is that they easily fall into the trap of moral relativism.

      • Ellen H.

        If you don’t like progressives, then why are you here?

      • Walverine Slayer

        To counter the progressive lies, tyranny and hypocrisy.

      • Ellen H.

        You poor thing.

      • You’ve Been Trolled!

        You filthy whore.

    • Cemetery Girl

      Homosexuality was not discussed by Jesus. The favorite story to support how vile homosexuality is can be interpreted as opposing homosexuality or also as God being angered by the people of Sodom and Gomorrah’s treatment of others. Either way, the rape of women is considered acceptable in the story. Old Testiment treats pregnancy as potential people. Even the specifications on the price due if harm comes to a person doesn’t even list a price for children under a month old. They had less value than a slave.
      Christianity does not have to be part of society. First of all, I have no interest in forcing people to follow Christianity. Faith should holding meaning to the individual, not be something they forced to follow by threat of prosecution. Second, in the U.S. requiring others to follow a religion is against the law. The government cannot establish a religion. Third, if we were to disregard the 1st Amendment, which religion would we follow. The different denominations of Christians can’t agree! If they agreed we wouldn’t have a bunch of different denominations. If they can’t agree on things such as should homosexuals be welcomed in services or should women be allowed leadership positions, then how do we base society off of them?

      • Walverine Slayer

        That’s funny. Progressives have zero problem forcing others to violate their religious beliefs! The fact that a progressive website is trying to talk about Christianity is an absolute joke. The progressive movement is the biggest threat to Christianity and religious beliefs that this country has ever seen.

      • jenisedai

        That’s kind of funny when you cinsider that the biggest reason people leave the church are the intolerant conservative attitudes of the “christians” in the church. Jesus called everyone, he sat with whores and thieves, he said that even those with the faith of a mustard seed would be welcomed in heaven, but all conservative christians seem to want to do is to treat church like a country club that only a select few are welcome to join. Christianity should be the true “big tent”, not the invitation-only be-like-us-or-go-to-hell club it’s turned into.

      • Walverine Slayer

        He sat with whores and thieves. That doesn’t mean he supported whoring and stealing.

      • Cemetery Girl

        He also preached of love and caring for one another, but not the whores and thieves and those considered unimportant by society, right?

      • NYCTim

        Given how many Republicans claim God told them to run for President, He MUST support whoring and stealing.

      • You’ve Been Trolled!

        Your trashy mother must have been a Republican.

      • You’ve Been Trolled!

        Republicrap and Democrap- 2 sides of the same corporate coin.

      • Ellen H.

        Christianity is not under any kind of threat. The majority of people in this country still identify as Christian. However, I think what you don’t like is that Christianity is no longer the only religion. The one religion that has a federal holiday, Christmas, is Christianity. No other religion has that. By the way, I’m a life-long Episcopalian so I’m not anti-Christian.

      • Cemetery Girl

        Sorry that your belief that Thanks-Christmas-Year is the only holiday that exists from Nov 1 to Feb 1 is being trampled. Sorry that the Sunday school teachers from your church aren’t allowed to come teach their lessons at the public schools to all the heathen children that don’t attend your church. Sorry about the rage you must feel when you’re stuck behind a car at a red light and it has bumper stickers that express views other than your religion. Guess the founding fathers really mucked it up when they didn’t write in the Constitution that everyone must follow whatever denomination that you are. It totally screwed up your right to have everyone like you!

      • Walverine Slayer

        You will burn in hell with the rest of the harlots who think gay sex and abortion are ok. Later cunt.

      • Cemetery Girl

        Ah, and there it is! Gotta having someone telling everyone else they’re going to hell! (And do you pray to God with that mouth????)

      • You’ve Been Trolled!

        Your whore mother calls me god.

      • NYCTim

        She calls you “Two-inch” or “Pre-Jack.” Yeah, you know what I’m saying.

    • Walverine Slayer

      Amen brother.

    • Daniel Schealler

      1) Find any reference where Jesus condemns abortion of gay marriage. Note: Jesus. We’ll wait.

      2) No-one is attempting to remove God from society. Not even Liberal Democrats.

      3) No-one is attempting to remove any mention of Christianity. Not even Liberal Democrats.

    • NYCTim

      No, they are an affront to YOU. And, frankly, I couldn’t give less of a shit about you and your beliefs because you want them to infringe on me and my beliefs. But go ahead and amuse me and tell us — in specifics — how LOVE is an “affront to Jesus.” I’m dying to know. You’re one of those loons who want the country governed according to the Bible, which is madness, since more than 1/3 of the country doesn’t even believe in your religion. Religious FREEDOM seems to be a major problem for so many CONservative Republicans. I assume you support that and are part of that insanity that should be separated from normal society. I’ll take debauchery over stupidity and insanity any day.

  • mcnairwilson

    Scores of books and virtually every government and academic study have proven that conservative-leaning Christians and conservatives w/ no religious bent at all are for more likely to give time, money, and other resources to assist people in need. They volunteer far more hours at shelters and food kitchens. They are not sitting back believing, “I paid my taxes, the government will take care of the ‘needy’ for us.” That’s what all the studies show to be the over-whelming attitude and BEHAVIOR of those of a more liberal or left-leaning persuasion. And, of course, there are EXCEPTIONS on both sides. My favorite statistic, that shows up in study-after-study (including U.S. Census), is that people of a conservative mind set (especially Christians on the right) who are in lower income groups give a far HIGHER PERCENTAGE of their income to charity than the rich and very rich (especially those on the left …so-call “progressives”.) In the end we are each accountable to ourselves and our Creator for how we use the talents, skills, time, and “blessings” that come our way. I find it sad that we have a President who spends ANY TIME trying to draw contrasts (and create friction) between left and right on social issues as appose to using his influence and “bully pulpit” to call us ALL to do what we can and a “smidgen” more. When I worked in creative marketing at Compassion International we hit ONE MILLION children sponsored in 25 countries. (Most are sponsored by one person, or one family). But the U.N. believes there are nearly 500 BILLION living in the $2-a-day (per/family) income level. Compassion’s recently-retired, long-time president, Wess Stafford, used to say, “The opposite of poverty is NOT wealth, but ENOUGH.” To which Wess added, “Do you have ENOUGH to help?” We all do.

    • Rich

      Could you please cite the statistical study-after-studies? Because I had never come cross this argument previously, and my (admittedly sketchy) research suggests that your statistics don’t hold up to scrutiny ,and that there is no perceptible difference in charitable activities between people in your country who avow a political persuasion of any kind.

      • mcnairwilson

        Google charitable giving for Conservatives vs. liberals/progressives

      • Judith_Priest

        *IF* your numbers are higher (and I doubt that), it is because you are all forced to *TITHE*, and that is counted.

  • Walverine Slayer

    Progressives are the biggest threat to organized religion this country has ever seen. It’s laughable that a progressive website would even to try to talk about Christianity.

  • Walverine Slayer

    It’s hypocritical and a joke that a progressive would even talk about the world being a better place if humans didn’t force their beliefs on other humans. Progressives are all about forcing their beliefs on other people. Just ask bakers and photographers in Oregon and New Mexico.

  • Daniel Schealler

    That’s the problem with granfalloons. When a sub-set splits off to form their own granfalloon, there’s nothing to pull them back because there’s no genuine karass involved.

    Which is to say: Neither conservatives nor liberals are in charge of Christianity, because Christianity isn’t the kind of thing over which any person or group of persons may be in charge.

  • You’ve Been Trolled!

    Time for God to smite down you heathen progressive whores.

  • You’ve Been Trolled!

    Theresa was a slut in high school. We called her the Cum Dumpster!

  • You’ve Been Trolled!

    Exterminate rug munchers and butt pirates!

  • You’ve Been Trolled!

    Exterminate politics!

  • You’ve Been Trolled!

    Exterminate religion!

  • You’ve Been Trolled!

    Later fools. Vote Trump!

  • Daniel Schealler

    I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: ‘O Lord make my enemies ridiculous.’ And God granted it.

    – Voltaire

  • El Burns

    A.J. Data the lesbian couple sued because the bakery owners published their names and address. Get your facts straight. Turn off Fox and stop being brainwashed. Think for yourself. Ask God for wisdom and actually listen to what He says.

  • Brianna LaPoint

    I love it when Christians assume there is something to reclaim from their religion. Ever since its inception, Christianity was all about raping, looting, and setting fire to “false idols” it was about questioning the beliefs at the time, unfortunately, the height of Christianity was when art and science suffered the most. Historians would rather ignore the Dark Ages than acknowledge that Christianity has any wrongdoings

  • Kelli Crackel

    This is the only bible verse I need to live my life like I believe God expects me to lead. Romans 13:10 “Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.” If we could just love everybody and allow them to live the life it’s in them to live without judgement from family or strangers we would be just fine. I have friends across the board in religious beliefs, from Muslims to Atheists and I love each one of them. I don’t agree with all of their opinions (I’m pro-choice, and pro-equality), but I don’t feel the need to constantly point out how wrong and ridiculous they are, and they don’t feel the need to do the same to me. We’ve developed an (admittedly weird) balancing act between religious beliefs (or lack thereof), and respect for each other’s individual beliefs. It’s a tightrope walk, definitely, but it’s also totally worth it. I’ve seen fundamentalist Christians change their views on marriage equality because someone made a point that caused them to rethink their stance. I’ve seen atheists who pretty much think Christians are idiots, find common ground with at least the moderate Christians in my circle. I know it’s not the ideal. I’d love it if I could wake up one day and convince the world to love everybody without qualifications, but in the meantime I’ve found real change can only come through respecting people despite beliefs a person holds, even when I find those beliefs to be horrible. If you respectfully address each others differing beliefs, it’s much easier to make people more tolerant. As opposed to turning every online exchange into an online version of a Jerry Springer episode. For some reason, at least with my friends, we are much more respectful to one another in person than online. So, we are mindful of this when we are talking online. We can share our beliefs without attacking each other’s humanity. We’re all fellow travelers on this planet and we should always remember it takes all kinds to run the world. It’s an imperfect system because we are imperfect humans doing our best. My friends (and I’m sure probably most people who aren’t raging psycho-killers) are each perfect in their own way and that’s good enough for God. Why isn’t it good enough for humans?

  • Charles Kirk

    I have never seen such a load of garbage as the comments in this post.
    To all of you whether liberal or conservative I say READ THE SCRIPTURE AND STOP PLAYING POLITICS.
    Facts are facts and truth is truth irreguardless of what you personally think.
    Christianity and Islam will never be able to stand side by side in peace because they are opposites. Real Christianity seeks peace first and conflict if necessary, Islam seeks death for all who do not follow Islam period.
    God gives the right to choose and also provides the consequences of the choices available. Following Christ invokes Gods grace and eternal life, rejecti g Christ as savior invokes Gods judgement and second death.
    The choice is each individuals. You can not follow Christ and live a purposefully unrighteous lifestyle.

  • Alex

    You call yourself a right wing conservative and you are correct because you all are so full of hate. You like to take away food stamps and welfare away from the poor, you like to start wars and kill millions of people, you like to send your neighbors kids to war to die, you like to kill women and children with guns, you laugh when a gay person is murdered, you rejoice when a killer cop kills a Black teenager, you love to because you all are so full of hate. You like to take away food stamps and welfare away from the poor, you like to start wars and kill millions of people, you like to send your neighbors kids to war to die, you like to kill women, you laugh when a gay person is murdered, you rejoice when a killer cop kills a Black teenager, you love to invade foreign countries and you love to kill their leaders, you love to kill immigrants at the border, you laugh when your people murder the innocent in schools, churches, restaurants, and other public places, you rejoice and give thanks to the Lord when you give your child a gun…. you get the point. No nobody support killing children…. you do.

    • Dennis L. Chapman

      You sound like a frustrated 12 year old who is spewing, but not making any sense whatsoever! Those are such silly , simplistic, foolish things to say, You know all of this because you are God?? Wow!

  • Jeannette K. Miller

    I am A conservative Christian. Liberal Christians are fraud. For example Hillary Clinton says she is for women’s rights. Well he husband was commander & Chief commits adultery. Well it a military personnel gets caught they are court martial. Hillary also believes in abortion at anytime of the pregnancy even when the baby can survive outside womb. Liberal Christians like Hillary Defend child molesters and laugh about it. Liberals are the Roaches and demise of their own doing. Liberals create slavery

  • David MacNamara

    Liberal Bishops think homosexuality is fine, most are homosexual. Many of these bishops recuit more men like them selves into the priesthood. They do this because there liberal. But the problem is that many of these priest go in to molest you boys and the church seems to be riddled with them. So the problem with the church is liberalism. Some Catholic you are, obviously you must leave before mass is over or you don’t pay attention. The last thing the priest says as he end the mass is for us to go out and spread God’s word and we do that by being an example to others. Liberal Catholic don’t care about peoples souls by not caring about what others believe by with holding the faith from those that are walking a blind. This is selfish and one that thinks this way deserves the pains of hell for it because they don’t care about anyone else but them selves. Liberal Catholics support abortion and homosexuality. To support these very abomination that are condemned in the bible. It actually goes against the first command God the Father gave Adam and Eve and that was to go fort and multiple. Adam and Eve broke that commandment and so that’s why God the Father punished man kind to indure death. So think how furious he get when we pratice sexual acts that do not share in God’s creative nature. Then there is abortion. To stop God’s child from being born and coming to completion so he can go on to be part of God’s great plan for man kind, I am sure encourages God’s wrath upon the sinner. If you asked me the Catholic church is control by liberal Catholics.

  • Ron Hussey

    Yes, because if you’re not killing babies, you can’t be a. Christian….. LOL, what a joke, there can be no such thing as the Christian left. But you keep believing that B.S.

  • Ron Hussey

    There isn’t, and can’t be, any such things as Forward Progressives, and surely no such thing as Christian’s on the left, both are oxymoron’s.

  • ziggyman911

    This is the statement of fools. you can’t take back what you never had. Liberal Christianity is nothing more than I can do what I want and Jesus doesn’t care. Everyone is saved nobody is going to hell. Just a very foolish article

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  • Jared Nieboer

    Your graphic at the start does volley legitimate criticism at many that consider themselves conservative Christians, though not the entire group. Your article devolves from there. You never provide an example of how conservative Christians have distorted the faith, yet you introduce common liberal distortions of Christianity quite liberally.
    Example 1: You wish to live in a pluralistic world where people serve many gods, not the one true GOD. (not very christian – one day every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord)
    Example 2: I quote the last line of your article,”True Christian values include love, hope, acceptance, providing for the needy and helping the poor – not hate, fear, judgement … ” While you would not receive any argument from conservative Christians that Christian principles include Love, (1 Corinthians 13 defines for us what love is and tells us that it is of principle import), but the bible never asks us to accept sin! Actually it is quite to the contrary telling us to root out sin from our lives. Conservative Christians also realize that, we are to HATE what is evil, FEAR God and understand that our God is the almighty, omnipotent Judge (His wrath is is Judgement – The same God that flooded the entire earth Killing all, but what he saved in the Ark) Malachi 3:6 tells us that God does not change.
    Christianity is the worship of the almighty GOD as a Justified (Just as if I had never sinned) believer washed clean by the blood of the lamb (Jesus Christ – who died on the cross).
    The problem with Liberal Christianity is that it tries to take what is convenient at the time (peace, love and hope are easy sellers), ignore the rest (the inconvenient truth), and march onward in the name of Jesus, A master they never knew.
    Jesus never took the easy way to save us, as there was none. There is no easy way (or liberal way) to be a Christian. Deny Yourself, Pick up your cross (this is hard and it hurts), and follow him. (This does not mean you will not fall down, but you must get up again and continue the journey until your appointed end.)

  • Jared Nieboer

    Your graphic at the start does volley legitimate criticism at many that consider themselves conservative Christians, though not the entire group. Your article devolves from there. You never provide an example of how conservative Christians have distorted the faith, yet you introduce common liberal distortions of Christianity quite liberally.
    Example 1: You wish to live in a pluralistic world where people serve many gods, not the one true GOD. (not very christian – one day every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord)
    Example 2: I quote the last line of your article,”True Christian values include love, hope, acceptance, providing for the needy and helping the poor – not hate, fear, judgement … ” While you would not receive any argument from conservative Christians that Christian principles include Love, (1 Corinthians 13 defines for us what love is and tells us that it is of principle import), but the bible never asks us to accept sin! Actually it is quite to the contrary telling us to root out sin from our lives. Conservative Christians also realize that, we are to HATE what is evil, FEAR God and understand that our God is the almighty, omnipotent Judge (His wrath is is Judgement – The same God that flooded the entire earth Killing all, but what he saved in the Ark) Malachi 3:6 tells us that God does not change.
    Christianity is the worship of the almighty GOD as a Justified (Just as if I had never sinned) believer washed clean by the blood of the lamb (Jesus Christ – who died on the cross).
    The problem with Liberal Christianity is that it tries to take what is convenient at the time (peace, love and hope are easy sellers), ignore the rest (the inconvenient truth), and march onward in the name of Jesus, A master they never knew.
    Jesus never took the easy way to save us, as there was none. There is no easy way (or liberal way) to be a Christian. Deny Yourself, Pick up your cross (this is hard and it hurts), and follow him. (This does not mean you will not fall down, but you must get up again and continue the journey until your appointed end.)

  • Jared Nieboer

    Your graphic at the start does volley legitimate criticism at many that consider themselves conservative Christians, though not the entire group. Your article devolves from there. You never provide an example of how conservative Christians have distorted the faith, yet you introduce common liberal distortions of Christianity quite liberally.
    Example 1: You wish to live in a pluralistic world where people serve many gods, not the one true GOD. (not very christian – one day every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord)
    Example 2: I quote the last line of your article,”True Christian values include love, hope, acceptance, providing for the needy and helping the poor – not hate, fear, judgement … ” While you would not receive any argument from conservative Christians that Christian principles include Love, (1 Corinthians 13 defines for us what love is and tells us that it is of principle import), but the bible never asks us to accept sin! Actually it is quite to the contrary telling us to root out sin from our lives. Conservative Christians also realize that, we are to HATE what is evil, FEAR God and understand that our God is the almighty, omnipotent Judge (His wrath is is Judgement – The same God that flooded the entire earth Killing all, but what he saved in the Ark) Malachi 3:6 tells us that God does not change.
    Christianity is the worship of the almighty GOD as a Justified (Just as if I had never sinned) believer washed clean by the blood of the lamb (Jesus Christ – who died on the cross).
    The problem with Liberal Christianity is that it tries to take what is convenient at the time (peace, love and hope are easy sellers), ignore the rest (the inconvenient truth), and march onward in the name of Jesus, A master they never knew.
    Jesus never took the easy way to save us, as there was none. There is no easy way (or liberal way) to be a Christian. Deny Yourself, Pick up your cross (this is hard and it hurts), and follow him. (This does not mean you will not fall down, but you must get up again and continue the journey until your appointed end.)

  • Jared Nieboer

    Your graphic at the start does volley legitimate criticism at many that consider themselves conservative Christians, though not the entire group. Your article devolves from there. You never provide an example of how conservative Christians have distorted the faith, yet you introduce common liberal distortions of Christianity quite liberally.
    Example 1: You wish to live in a pluralistic world where people serve many gods, not the one true GOD. (not very christian – one day every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord)
    Example 2: I quote the last line of your article,”True Christian values include love, hope, acceptance, providing for the needy and helping the poor – not hate, fear, judgement … ” While you would not receive any argument from conservative Christians that Christian principles include Love, (1 Corinthians 13 defines for us what love is and tells us that it is of principle import), but the bible never asks us to accept sin! Actually it is quite to the contrary telling us to root out sin from our lives. Conservative Christians also realize that, we are to HATE what is evil, FEAR God and understand that our God is the almighty, omnipotent Judge (His wrath is is Judgement – The same God that flooded the entire earth Killing all, but what he saved in the Ark) Malachi 3:6 tells us that God does not change.
    Christianity is the worship of the almighty GOD as a Justified (Just as if I had never sinned) believer washed clean by the blood of the lamb (Jesus Christ – who died on the cross).
    The problem with Liberal Christianity is that it tries to take what is convenient at the time (peace, love and hope are easy sellers), ignore the rest (the inconvenient truth), and march onward in the name of Jesus, A master they never knew.
    Jesus never took the easy way to save us, as there was none. There is no easy way (or liberal way) to be a Christian. Deny Yourself, Pick up your cross (this is hard and it hurts), and follow him. (This does not mean you will not fall down, but you must get up again and continue the journey until your appointed end.)