It’s Time We Put An End To The Ridiculous Argument That “Guns Don’t Kill People”

gun-nuts3Gun fanatics are easily some of the most irrational people I often come across. These are people who look at a deadly inanimate object with actual admiration and affection. Just look at these open carry advocates. These are people who dedicate themselves not to ending homelessness or feeding starving children, but to the belief that people should have the right to openly carry guns with them at all times – basically everywhere. These are people so obsessed with guns that concealed carry isn’t good enough. For them it’s not even about the right to carry a gun in public, it’s about the right to openly carry their guns.


There’s a line that’s often used by gun fanatics which is easily one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard: “Guns don’t kill people, people kill people.” It’s often accompanied by the ridiculous belief that if we’re going to blame guns for gun violence then we should blame spoons for obesity as well. Yes, because a gun and a spoon are exactly the same thing, right?

The clear message from this absurd rhetoric is that a gun isn’t harmful unless it’s used by a human – which is true. Then again, neither is a grenade, a rocket-propelled grenade (RPG) or a 10 pound brick of C-4.

Currently we have over 300 million guns in this country and lead the modernized world in gun violence – by a lot. It’s never made any sense to me how gun advocates claim guns make us more safe, when it’s clear that the reason we lead the modernized world in gun violence is because we have more guns than every other country. It’s a question I like to ask, “If 300 million guns won’t put an end to gun-related homicides, then how may will it take?”

But then I have to ask, what if Americans owned over 300 million RPG’s, grenades or bricks of C-4 – would that make us more or less safe as a society? What would happen if I waved a magic wand and saturated our country with these types of violent and deadly weapons?

Would violent crime go up or down? Would homicides rise or fall?

And let’s not forget that grenades, RPG’s and C-4 are essentially harmless unless a human uses them for some sort of nefarious means… just like guns.

So, using the “logic” of the gun fanatic, would our society be “safer” if we saturated it with 300 million highly volatile and explosive devices?

Of course not. 

Imagine for a moment if someone were able to get their hands on a box of grenades by simply strolling into their local Walmart. How might that work out for this country? Thankfully, that’s not possible…

Because that would be completely idiotic and extremely dangerous.


Yet almost anyone can stroll into one of these stores, buy a semi-automatic rifle and a pack of ammunition and be on their merry way to do who knows what with it.

Ultimately the answer we get is that gun advocates are partially right but they don’t understand how to fully apply their logic; it’s not just the deadly object that causes gun violence, it’s the easy access to that deadly object combined with a society filled with criminals that leads to gun-related violence.

That is exactly why we need tighter gun regulations – not to punish the responsible gun owners, but to make it far more difficult for criminals and those suffering from mental illness to get their hands on deadly weapons. Besides, how is making someone wait a few days to get a gun “punishing” them? If you’re in such fear for your life that you need a gun immediately – call the police. And if you are one of these people who claims “my house doesn’t call 911” because of your guns – you’re probably too mentally unstable to own guns in the first place.

Sadly, as long as gun fanatics continue to deny that guns have anything to do with gun violence, we’re never going to be able to get sensible regulations passed. This isn’t about “punishing gun owners,” it’s about using common sense and understanding that we should be doing everything we can to make sure guns only fall into the hands of responsible gun owners. That doesn’t happen in a society where gun laws are so lenient that all it really takes to obtain a gun is a 15 minute trip to any local Walmart.



Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Erin Elizabeth

    for the record forward progressive:
    some of the people in this country are both gun owners and progressive. some of us believe that we should be true progressives and once a background check has been performed and a gun has been purchased the owner should be able to carry however and where ever they like. in fact some of us think if you took every person in our country and taught them gun safety in school and taught them proper handling of and treatment of a firearm there would be a lot less injury due to ignorance. we teach kids how to drive and that is handling a deadly weapon. so what’s the difference? AND when they graduate high school they should be issued a gun (provided they have passed a psychological evaluation also given in high school) by our government.

    since more and more cops are out shooting unarmed people and the criminals aren’t going to care what laws you pass (they dont go through any background checks to get them now how is more going to help that?) maybe it’s time we all carried. i know for sure if more people openly carried there would be a LOT less crime. because not to many people want to get in a shootout to rob, rape, or kill somebody. and if you know that’s what you have to do to rob, rape, or attack someone it’s gonna happen a lot less.
    so just be aware we can agree to disagree. and that doesn’t make us a gun nut. and it doesn’t mean we aren’t progressive or forward thinkers. it simply means we have a different view. so if you wouldn’t mind not bashing gun owners as “gun nuts” or those who disagree with your opinion as crazy. please and thank you. that’s just shitty article writing. you are better than this.

    • marysrn

      The article was pretty good. And you are a gun nut. Your rant proves it.

    • R. Eilers

      Hmm…yet another gun nut thats only Out For His Own interests

      • Paul Joe G

        That was a girl who wrote that there, Chief.

  • I-RIGHT-I

    Some guns are good and some guns are bad just like people. I say we ban all the Black Thug Guns. If it were not for the Black Thug Guns out there killing people the murder rate in the USA would be on par with every other Western nation. When less than 7% of the guns do more than 50% of the murder and mayhem it’s time to take a closer look. Just my opinion.

    • Paul Joe G

      Haha I see what you did there!

      • I-RIGHT-I

        It’s not funny though is it?

    • Rob McSwain

      Love the flag

      • I-RIGHT-I

        Thanks Rob!

  • bestfriend

    So, you not only want to place more laws upon gun ownership you also want to determine how people speak about it. Will restricting people’s speech also make the world a better place?

  • Parkway

    Guns that must be “carried” so openly and publicly … usually a compensation for having a small (or non-functioning) penis. Look it up, the research data supports this.

    • Paul Joe G

      A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.”

      ― Sigmund Freud

      • MorganLvr

        I’m sure Freud wasn’t talking about the ridiculous situation we now have in the US.

      • zonmoy

        Freud would have a field day with the psycho states of America!

      • bigdog

        Freud was a cokehead who also suggested every boy wants to sleep with his mother. Try again.

      • Paul Joe G

        Yeah quoting the father of modern psychology really isn’t bringing anything to the table in comparison to some hoplophobe’s unbacked claim that we own guns to compensate for our dicks.

  • Rob McSwain

    More BS I’ve had a SigSauer 1911 on my hip all day, I got a blow back in the chamber on top of that. Hasn’t killed any one all day!

  • Rob McSwain

    (“There’s a line that’s often used by gun fanatics which is easily one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard: “Guns don’t kill people, people kill people.” It’s often accompanied by the ridiculous belief that if we’re going to blame guns for gun violence then we should blame spoons for obesity as well. Yes, because a gun and a spoon are exactly the same thing, right?”)

    Oh good lord! How do you miss that concept!? It’s like explaining how to wipe your ass to a 5yr old with brain damage. Ok it takes a human to squeeze a trigger, or I imagine a monkey could do it too. Same as a spoon. Its requires human intervention to put those biscuits and gravy in your mouth. When you were in college, taking a final exam, did you pass that test, or did the pencil do it for you? According to liberal logic, I need to get one of these pencils when I go back for my MBA.

    • Matteo Colonna

      Or a toddler can pull the trigger.

  • Rob McSwain

    (“The clear message from this absurd rhetoric is that a gun isn’t harmful unless it’s used by a human – which is true. Then again, neither is a grenade, a rocket-propelled grenade (RPG) or a 10 pound brick of C-4.”)

    Who do you know personally that has an RPG? NO ONE! how about a brick of C-4? “Well there is this guy that lives down the street” shut the hell up, no you do not know anyone with C-4.

    I will admit it would come in handy for beaver dams!

  • Charles Linkiwcz

    I mostly agree but your diatribe about grenades, RPG, C4, etc available to the general public is ludicrous. It illegal for citizens to purchase, own, sell military armoury. To base your gun argument on the above is comparing apples to oranges. Realistic Basis for your position is to use real life examples like Michael Dunn and Curtis Reeves; I bet in
    hindsight they wish they never purchased a handgun.