Virginia Revokes Out-Of-State Concealed Carry Permits, Gun Fanatics Flip Out

NRA gun nuts concealed carryConcealed carry laws allowing people to carry concealed handguns are in place in many states across the United States. In the hands of a responsible individual who is trained and understands the laws, the ability to carry a weapon isn’t necessarily a bad thing – an opinion I know many liberals will likely disagree with me on.


Virginia has moved to bar people with out-of-state permits from carrying weapons, because those 25 states have lax regulations that allow individuals to transport guns they wouldn’t be allowed to under Virginia’s laws.

“Evenly, consistently and fairly enforcing Virginia’s concealed handgun permit law, as we are now doing, means that it will be more difficult for potentially dangerous individuals to conceal their handguns here in Virginia and that will make Virginians safer, especially Virginian law enforcement,” Herring said.

The move means that Virginians will no longer be able to use their concealed handgun permits in six states that require a mutual reciprocity agreement: Florida, Louisiana, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, South Carolina and Wyoming.

John Whitbeck, chairman of the Virginia Republican Party, said Herring’s announcement was further proof that Democrats have “declared war on the Second Amendment.” (Source)

Attorney General Mark Herring is acting in the best interests of the residents of Virginia, and he is trying to stem the tide of people who have decided that their only protection against Islamic terrorism is being heavily armed.

As a liberal who owns guns and carries a concealed weapon at times, I have nothing against law-abiding citizens who have been properly trained doing the same. When you have to wait minutes or even hours for a police officer to show up, many people have no other choice to defend against a violent intruder or a carjacker.

These are reasonable circumstances when a responsible gun owner may have to use deadly force to protect themselves, but that isn’t what the gun lobby and the NRA is promoting. They want everyone to buy a gun, often without background checks, and even to be able to openly carry that weapon into any building that individual wants to. These places include government buildings and schools, places that should only have trained members of law enforcement with weapons.



In some states, people are even allowed to carry guns into bars, which is just a disaster waiting to happen – but the NRA cares nothing about responsible ownership anymore and promotes guns anytime and anywhere.

Virginia is making this move to protect the residents of their state, despite the howls of the gun lobby and the NRA. They aren’t banning guns by any stretch of the imagination and they are allowing people from places like Louisiana to obtain a permit in Virginia, so long as they qualify by Virginia’s standards.

This isn’t an assault on gun rights, it is simply requiring people who travel to the state to abide by the laws of Virginia, and reduce the chances of an untrained or unqualified individual taking a life they didn’t have to.




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  • bannedbymotherjones

    Manny Schewitz I find it both utterly fascinating and utterly sad how quickly you pounce on those who are rightfully against this decision that AG Herring has made by calling them – well us – gun fanatics.

    Herring claims that he made this decision based on data he received that the requirements of the states that have reciprocity agreements with the state of Virginia. He also claims that those states have less stringent regulations on who can apply for a concealed carry permit. Based on my own research into this he is lying at best. Every state that shares a reciprocity agreement with VA has as strict or stricter requirements for obtaining a CCP.

    As for his motives two possibilities jump out right away. The first is that the move to end the reciprocity will get gun owners who used to be able to CC in VA to apply for and obtain a VA CCP and in doing so get more money into the state’s coffers. The second – and far more concerning – possibility is that he is doing yet another end run around the Second Amendment and trying to control the guns of law abiding citizens under the assumption that this will help with gun violence.

    What I would like to see is data that points to people with out of state CCPs committing firearms related crimes in VA. I suspect there is no data on this.

    • GL

      The point is, some states’ Concealed Carry laws are weaker than others’. Virginia, in looking to make sure that someone who, by their standards, would not have gotten a CCP cannot legally Concealed Carry until they get a Virginia CCP, is banning other states’ CCPs outright. That way, they don’t have to check every permit against a list of states, don’t have to check to see if another state’s permit is a forgery, etc., etc.

      They can just go “That permit is not valid here”, which is well within their rights as a state. They’re looking to protect the people of the state.

      Besides… if we’re talking about crimes that don’t exist, how about the rash of legislation against voter fraud?

      • bannedbymotherjones

        Which states? Did you know that North Carolina has a requirement for a mental evaluation of a CCP applicant? Virginia currently does not. And yet that state is cut from the list as not meeting the same standards as Virginia? Please. All Herring did was create a controlling solution for a non-issue.

        As for someone using a fake CCP – please tell me when that has happened. In fact tell me when someone using an out of state CCP that VA shares reciprocity with committed a violent firearm related crime in VA?

        As for voter fraud that does indeed exist – allow me to illustrate that with one fairly recent case in Ohio in where a poll worker by the name of Melowese Richardson not only cast an absentee ballot in her name and in her sister’s name – her sister being in a coma BTW but who then also cast votes again in her name and in her sister’s name in person. Google the name Meloese Richardson.

        You were saying?