Should We Celebrate Westboro Baptist Church Founder Fred Phelps’ Death?

10148671_10152287107682489_1822544127_oThe Westboro Baptist Church is quite possibly the most hateful, disgusting, pathetic grouping of bottom-feeding parasites I’ve ever witnessed.  They are the epitome of what a “hate group” is.  They’re vile, wretched and I’ve always said that while I never wish ill on anyone – if something horrific happened to these people, I wouldn’t feel bad.

Well, as most people know, recent news has broke that Fred Phelps is now on his deathbed (or could be dead by the time this posts) according to his son.  Not only that, he was kicked out of the very hate group he founded.

Speculation as to why he was kicked out of his own hate group has gone from members finding out that he was secretly gay to a possible change of heart as he approached his death.

But no matter the reason why, his daughter has now claimed that the Westboro Baptist Church will protest his funeral, saying, “My dad Pastor Fred Phelps is a hell bound f*g enabling whore.”  So it’s clear something quite substantial happened within the last year.

As this news has picked up steam, the question that many have asked is, “Should we celebrate his death?”

Now I’ll admit, it would be very easy to do.  The man was an absolute monster.  The heinous things he’s said and done are some of the most detestable acts of “free speech” that most of us will ever encounter.

But as I know he lays there on his death bed, I actually just feel pity.

I don’t know what led Phelps to be the person he was.  But I do know, at his end, he’s going to die alone – hated (and protested) by the very monsters he created.

And while it’s easy to celebrate his death (I can’t judge anyone who does) I just feel that the best way to prove that we’re better people is to be better than he would have been.

Personally, I pity him.  For the way he led his life.  For what caused him to be the way that he was.  For the hate that filled his heart.  For the life he wasted living in such perpetual misery and loathing.  For the fact that on his death bed, even his own children hate him.

So, should some celebrate?  Sure, go ahead.  I wouldn’t blame anyone who did.  Heck, I thought hearing the news I’d want to celebrate myself.  Though, once I heard it, all I felt was pity.  I believe that Fred Phelps dying alone, apparently hated by his children, is a fitting end to a man who brought such misery to so many people.

Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Joe

    I have nothing but contempt for this “man” and I hesitated to even post about him, but I think the less attention he gets in death the better. To protest his funeral sinks us to his and his followers (or former followers it seems) and only brings more attention to their world view. Let him go and leave the world without so much as a whimper.

    • moe/larry & curly keys

      I love him as he personifies waaaay 2 many “Christians” I have met and listened to–
      ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,does anyone “think” anything has changed??? NOPE!!! the glenn becks and phil robertsons and michelle bachmanns still pollute this world; as do countless other religions scums over in other lands destroying those around them– in the “love” of ( dogma/mantra) GOD

  • Yes, of course!

  • Paul Julian Gould

    I’ll not cheer, dance nor sing at his death… likely, my reaction will be much like that on the death of any other hateful person… wondering what could have possibly made someone so hateful, and a “Hmm… well, he’s dead.” He deserves no better than that, and worse than that would say more about me than him… a lot more, considering I’m still alive.

    I can’t help but see that situation with his daughter and the rest of the clan as the relationship between the mainstream Republican Party and the Tea Party writ small … the monster they created has been turning its fangs on them, and is more hateful than they have ever been…

  • John

    Most of the Phelps family already has spots in Hell reserved for them. Sorry, Rev, but accepting Christ and asking Him for forgiveness for your homophobia won’t do jack for you now.

    • meatwad_SSuppet

      None of that hell and jesus garbage is real. Wake up to the hebrews plagiarized scripts of their torah and your bible, and the third release in their religious trilogy, their koran, all lies made up by liar hebrews.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        yeah babeeee! churned up to generate income and power.
        hell?>>> try going down on tori spelling

    • moe/larry & curly keys

      ahahahahahaaaaaa,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, according to the ( scum) pentacostal Christians,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, if/ when u “sincerely” give yourself to Christ and ask forgiveness: u will enter gods kingdom
      ==================================================
      according to “born agains”….. if hitler/stalin/mao did that on their deathbeds they would have salvation but the millions of jewish kids slaughtered wont as they died jewish– elitism to the MAX
      ===================================================
      gotta LOVE reeeee-ligion!! pass the tithing basket please

  • real_world_truth

    I would hope no one would celebrate. Indeed, if I were able to make the
    journey, I would volunteer to participate in any buffering group
    gathered to keep his ‘church’ from getting too close to those who choose
    to attend his funeral. I say this not because I in anyway support the
    man and his message of hate, but because it is the right thing to do. No
    one in grief over the loss of a loved one deserves to be subjected to
    the antics of Westboro and their vile commentary. Only love can conquer
    hate.

    • John Clark

      I think all us queers at least are on the same page here. My old joke is, “god hates fags” is actually gods anti smoking campaign. I’m still praying for this lost soul to find salvation in the end. The hate that made him is always a cycle. The only way to end that cycle is to love the haters and pray for their souls to which ever deities you talk to.

  • surfjac

    I think his funeral should be surrounded by Veterans carrying signs and yelling epithets like “god hates you” or “take the last train to hell”.
    He should, in death, reap what he sowed in life.
    And the next kook, take notice!
    Do what mr. phelps did and this is what you’ll get and how you’ll be remembered!

    • moe/larry & curly keys

      why bury him? put him on a cross to dry out and let maggots and crows chowdown. FOX “news” might glorify him

  • Asskickin Chicken

    Celebrate? I don’t know, that might be a bit much. But the world is a better place without him.
    Admittedly, I did literally jump for joy a number of years ago when I learned that Jesse Helms had died.

    • real_world_truth

      As a North Carolinian, I have to admit I turned to a friend when I heard Jesse was gone and said ‘Satan has left the building’. Bad of me, but I grew up here and can honestly say it was a relief to know that man would no longer be around to misrepresent my state in Washington. I fear, however, that we have other bigoted RWNJs filling the bill.

      • Asskickin Chicken

        I’m a North Carolinian as well. Though, I lived in Phoenix when Jesse kicked it. I’m in Charlotte now.
        It was a good day with Falwell took his dirt nap, too.

      • real_world_truth

        Glad you’re back, always nice to have one more voice against bigotry in our state. Maybe one day we can change them all through love…and our votes, of course

  • john smith

    Limbaugh and Beck are basically in the same league with these jackazz’s, hatemongering, scumbags!

    • Giershift43

      What is said is that so many listen to them and repeat what they say and that they make money off it!!

    • moe/larry & curly keys

      don’t forget the sweet pastor huck*(ster)abee–
      Bachmann>? her hell is sex with her foppish hubby
      ==========================================

  • Sandy Greer

    No, we should NOT ‘celebrate’ a death, even of a hateful person.

    We don’t treat people as they deserve. We treat people as WE deserve.

    Want a better world? Create the environment wherein it can thrive:

    We must be the change we wish to see in the world.
    ~ Mahatma Gandhi

  • Michael

    I won’t be sad.

  • Gary Menten

    No. I am reminded of a story from the Holocaust in which a concentration camp inmate is overheard offering prayers of thanks to God. When asked by another inmate what can he possibly thanking God for, he answers “For not making me like the Nazis.

    The story is probably apocryphal, but the point is that if we are truly better than this worthless individual, we owe to ourselves and others to act according to the better angels of our nature. I do not want to be like Fred Phelps.

    • meatwad_SSuppet

      Strange that those “camp survivors” didn’t live up to the above sentiment. They have become far worse than they claimed to be treated by the nazis. Funny tht a religious group demands lands their god “gave them” but forgetting the conditions to be met first,,, like their living messiah. No messiah, no damned israel.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        harsh; but essentially correct———— funny how money ( U.S. jewish money in that time) can overcome so-called angst.
        that being said- the jews did get screwed terribly in WW2: especially the innocent children

      • Norisia

        Love the anti-Israel insertion in here. Also the Jewish hate is strong within you, Meatwad.

      • Gary Menten

        Schmuck!

  • snowhawkwoman

    I think that a wonderful way to remember this man is to donate to The Equality House which sits right across the street from the Westboro Baptist Church Compound in Topeka, KS Donate to this wonderful group that supports the LGBT community in Topeka, KS in memory of Fred Phelps….then the Equality House can send a note to the Westboro Phelps family telling them how much was donated to support gays in Fred Phelp’s memory!!!

    • CherMoe

      What a brilliant idea!

    • GOPhater

      That IS a great idea!!!!

    • Mary Marcum Eversole

      Outstanding idea!!!! Their address is: The Equality House 1200 SW Orleans St. Topeka, KS 66604

    • Shane Gerzon

      gay people can be sweet but also snipey and repulsive like the rest of us.

  • 1EdMeadows83

    There will be those who are sure old man Phelp’s soul will be burning in hell. Nope. That ain’t so. There is no hell and the old man’s body will be “mouldering in the grave” That’s it.

    • moe/larry & curly keys

      I want him in limbo as I am certainly going to hell ( ask any “Christian”)
      …………….. hell? great looking debaucherous chics and killer BBQ!!!
      limbo? Mario lanza/ ray coniff music with crappy food and no women !!

  • Maureen Colpitts

    There is no need to celebrate his death. He is a mean, bitter, and probably lonely old man. Let him go in peace. IMHO, I am not threatened by the WBC as much as people like Pat Robertson or the late Jerry Falwell, who have much more influence over millions of people. At least everyone realizes the WBC are completely whacko and have zero credibility.

  • dae

    I would like to see his corpse get married.

  • CherMoe

    I don’t advocate “celebrating” anyone’s death. I just think this is proof positive of how vile and dangerous this CULT is. Having said that, I think this is Karma. Kind of like a “live by the gun, die by the gun” thing.

  • Jennifer m

    He is a vile human being and while Im not glad hes dying I wont feel an ounce of sadness when hes gone.

    • meatwad_SSuppet

      I am kind of happy that his family has disowned the old ‘fag’.

  • meatwad_SSuppet

    I will celebRate when their so claimed church burns down and they refuse fire insurance. Tax those parasites, all of them.

    • GOPhater

      ‘celibate’?? Good! God help us if you ever have offspring!! EEEEEK!!!

    • 1EdMeadows83

      OOOO, Meatwad, you’d better look up the word celibate!

      • meatwad_SSuppet

        Yes sir, but I’ve always had trouble with the second e. I am born and raised in a USA Mexico border town. I find multiple c’s in words that use them as both S’s and K’s annoying. My R key is one of a few that if hit wrong, do not take. Than you.

  • rossbro

    I’m sad I wasn’t standing on his neck at his death.

  • Chichiplus

    I’ve never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure”― Clarence Darrow

  • moe/larry & curly keys

    donnnnnnnnnn’cha find it interesting that they dis the old scumbag after he is dead??? NOT all the time BEFORE when this “church”—and its holier than thou scumbag members– were causing such anti American anti TRUE jesus stuff? sounds to me typical of regressive scum: now they have to remake the clan so they dont get screwed financially anymore. ( kinda like the republican party???) they — as the tea party trash– are not to be trusted

  • ldoone

    After giving it some thought, I have to admit that I’m glad to hear that he’s dying. Not because he had any particular impact on my life (personally I think he gave gay-bashing such an ugly face that it pushed a lot of people over the fence toward acceptance of marriage equality) but his death is, to me, a reminder that this is the ultimate path of all tyrants. Eventually that great equalizer, Death, frees us from all the sociopaths we are struck with. I will be glad again when I hear that it’s the Koch brothers exiting the stage. And Dick Cheney. And several more I need not mention. Thank you Thanatos for sweeping the world of these fouled souls.

  • I will never celebrate any person’s death, but neither can I be forced to mourn.

  • Jo Clark

    The best way to totally thumb your nose at some disgusting creature like this is to have him occupy a place of total indifference in your life. I don’t celebrate his death, nor do I wish for it. I just simply can’t waste my energy on him. Such negativity he’s brought to the world and what a pathetic legacy to leave behind, that most folks think the world is better off without you in it. That’s where Phelps is now.

  • Neil

    Taking the high road. surprising? Not really.

  • Eddie Krebbs

    It will indeed be fitting that his so-called church (composed largely of family members) will be protesting his funeral. I won’t shed any crocodile tears. But won’t lower myself to his level; plus the most damning condemnation I can delivery is to treat it as a non-event.

  • Patricia Gregory

    Come on people now, smile on your brother. Everybody get together , try to love one another right now.

  • Jim Sittnick

    John Donne -“……any mans death diminishes me, because I am involved inMankinde; And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee.”

  • tangledvine

    His ousting was probably so that the group could choose his successor, not him. I’m sure there was no change of heart. He’s a vile bastard and I want his grave marked on Google Earth so I can come dance on it. Hell, yeah. Lets CELEBRATE. I usually turn the other cheek but he assaulted so many people already in pain and trying to lay loved ones to rest with his hatred. And, his “flock” are adults. They had a choice to follow or not. They followed. They need to see it’s time to contain their hatred. And, his corpse can be the tool.

  • AlienFactor

    How about a ‘peaceful protest’ with everyone carrying signs that say ‘God loves everyone’? Not my personal brand of religion (none), but I think that it would be an appropriate response to the hatred that he bred and the conflict that he cherished.

  • Mainah

    There is no need to celebrate or picket. The man will be dead and I highly doubt it would bother them much nor will it change their hate groups. Let him lay without thought to be forgotten in the dust.

  • Aaron Dana Pendlesteiger

    ugh……is all I have to say about this story and people comments

    just ugh……

  • Jennifer Jennings

    I truly believe that the right thing to do is to protect the sanctity of his funeral and protect it from the hating protesters. Quite possibly he was living in fear of ‘coming out’ as so many others in his generation were ‘back in the day’. We have all seen what any organized religion is possible of, and how they previously alienated those that didn’t follow strict scripture and the tenents of the church. Hate no one…respect all…don’t let this man darken YOUR heart…pity the choices he has made, we do not really know the driving force behind those choices.

  • Linda Newnum

    At the hospice center, the nurses are playing Dust in The Wind and Don’t Fear the Reaper for him!

  • freethinker666

    He spent his lifetime taking poison in the hopes it would kill his enemy.

  • terry63

    No. We lead by example. These people should now start waking up. Do you throw a temper tantrum because your 3 yer old does? No. You instruct him or her on the correct way to act. We dont lower our selves to the same level. We provide a better way and hope that they follow. My guess is that now, the spell is broken. The cloud has lifted. Not for all, but for some. They will be waking up now. Do as I say, not as I do, is always the wrong apporach. No body repects that.

  • Norm Davis

    I hope is death was slow and painful. I wish the same for all his children and members as well. Maybe then they would understand what pain they caused to the families of my fellow brothers that had fallen and that they showed no respect for at their funerals. He’s does not deserve sanctity or a peaceful burial, it should be made mockery of. Eye for eye. If I had the opportunity, I’ll whip out my penis and urinate, possibly dedicate on grave with the biggest grin. That what he deserves at the very least.

  • Matthew Reece

    “I’ve never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure.” -Clarence Darrow (not Mark Twain as is commonly believed)

  • Shane Gerzon

    send them that spiteful note and then they can come kill one of your abortion doctors…and the war will rage on. Is there a better path?

  • Shane Gerzon

    Perhaps Allen C. is growing up. Maybe the liberal doesn’t want to die with solitary hatred like his nemesis. Perhaps hating and vilifying is not the way.

  • freethinker666

    His obituary “The founder of the most hated church in America” he spent 84 years on this earth and his legacy is hatred and intolerance, I refuse to sink to his level, by continuing to espouse hate. I hope in death he finds some measure of peace, and his followers learn from his mistakes.