What The Hell Have Republicans Really Done For Conservative Voters?

redneck-voterConservatives like to go on and on about the horrific policies of the Obama administration and how terrible Democrats are. But something that I seem to always notice is missing is what their party has done for them.

See, as a liberal who voted for President Obama, I can tell you what he’s done for this country:

  • Created over 15 million jobs
  • Presided over record high stock levels
  • Found and killed Osama bin Ladin
  • Passed health care reform
  • Saved the American auto industry

To just name a few, out of the long list of things that he’s done. These are quantifiable things that I can point to and say, “See, this is what my party did for me.”

Though conservatives will undoubtedly scoff at all of those. Because as we all know when it comes to conservatives, if Fox News doesn’t say it, it’s not real.

But when it’s all said and done, what the hell has their party done for them?

Let’s get a couple of social issues out of the way:

  • Gay marriage
  • Abortion

Outside of the people directly involved in a same-sex wedding, or an abortion, how exactly does gay marriage impact anyone else’s life? The answer is simple: It doesn’t. So, continuing to fight for these social issues isn’t “doing something” to improve the lives of the conservative voter. It’s just a power play based on some ignorant desire to control strangers based on what they believe is right or wrong. But even if same-sex marriages and abortions were illegal, that doesn’t “improve” the life of the average conservative voter. Sure, it gives them a “win,” but it’s not doing something for them. Because the typical conservative voter wasn’t going to have an abortion or marry a homosexual in the first place. So whether or not those two things are legal has absolutely no direct impact on their life. (Unless of course they’re a hypocrite and rally against things that secretly they would do, just to save face with their conservatism or Christian beliefs.)

So, again, what has the Republican party done for the conservative voter? Has this “trickle-down” economics made them rich? And don’t give me this “well Democrats keep preventing it from working properly” nonsense. Taxes have remained at all-time lows since Reagan. The rich are doing better than they ever have in this country. Many large corporations are making billions. So don’t give me this crap about taxes or regulations. If those were really burdens to our economy, then the rich would be suffering too.

And they’re not. In fact, they’re flourishing.

Is it guns? Because as far as I can tell, President Obama never passed a single law to strip away gun rights. Actually, the only suggestions he really made were universal background checks and limits on magazine size. And I’m sorry, but if you can’t hit a target with 10 bullets, you shouldn’t be operating a gun in the first place. And why would anyone oppose universal background checks? Have we become so paranoid in this country that we can’t wait a week for a gun? If you really believe your life is in that much immediate danger you either need to call 911 or seek professional help.

Besides, are gun rights really an issue on which you want to support an entire political party? How does that make sense? Vote against your own best interests in nearly every other facet of your life because you get to own more guns and get them a few days quicker than if the other party was in charge? Sure, you’ve got a safe full of guns – while you work 60 hours a week at two jobs for $7.25 an hour because the party you vote for refuses to raise the minimum wage. Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

And if I’m not mistaken (and I’m not) didn’t Bush tell us back in the early 2000’s that his tax cuts were going to usher in economic prosperity and eliminate our national debt? So, how exactly did the opposite of that happen? That’s right, because trickle-down economics is scam.

Is it this fear-mongering against people on welfare? Conservatives do realize that millions of conservatives are on welfare, right? And when it gets right down to it, welfare abuse makes up a very small percentage of those receiving these benefits. But this also ties into the minimum wage issue. Because millions of American workers have full-time jobs, yet still rely on the government to survive. And as much as it “pains” me to say this, mostly Republican states lead the nation when it comes to citizens relying on government assistance.

Women’s rights? Please. Female conservatives, please explain to me what the Republican party has done to secure true equality for women in America.

Then there’s always health care. After all, Republicans really tried to fix our broken health care system, right? Isn’t it amazing how suddenly “Obamacare” is some social radical idea, yet it was a Republican idea in the 90’s? In fact, the 2012 Republican presidential candidate, Mitt Romney, passed nearly the exact same law while he was governor of Massachusetts. But I guess once the black guy supported the law, then it became “evil socialism.” And to this day, even with all of their objections to “Obamacare,” Republicans have yet to provide a single plausible alternative.

Except, of course, “Obamacare.”

Oh, and for the record, almost all of the propaganda Republicans use against the Affordable Care Act:

  • Canceled plans
  • Kills jobs
  • Premium hikes
  • Confusing

Those are actually all arguments as to why we need true universal health care for all.

Bush was president for eight years and Republicans had control of most of Congress for much of his time in Washington. What did conservative voters get from it?

Is Iraq better off? No. Did we balance the budget? No. Did we pay off our national debt? No. Did we find Osama bin Ladin? No. Did we usher in unheralded economic prosperity? No. Did we “win the war on terror”? No.

Tell me, what the heck did Republicans do for anyone but the rich during Bush’s eight years? The only people who really prospered during his time in the White House were the wealthy, big business, big oil and big defense. That was it.

So, conservative voter, I ask of you: What the hell has the Republican party actually done for you?



Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Jim Bean

    A vote against my own interests would be a vote for the party determine to grow government to the point where it smothers economic growth with partisan anal-retentive policies and regulations.

    • kidcat24

      Maybe you could get an oil or fracking job. Those have increased ten fold under President Obama.

      • Jim Bean

        Yes they have and I live in PA where they have been a boon to our state prosperity. But make no mistake. Those jobs have increased DESPITE Obama. Not because of him. He gets zero credit. If he did New York would also be enjoying the prosperity.

      • bobg

        When the drinking water is forever fouled and the sinkholes begin swallowing Pennsylvanians, Obama will get zero credit for that too. Enjoy the prosperity until the effects of fracking and drilling force you to abandon your home Jim.

      • Jim Bean

        When the toxic brew now forming in these mountain ranges of garbage landfills that we’re creating starts leeching into the water table, no one will be talking about fracking. Or climate change either, for that matter.

        Hysterical alarmists made the same claims a century ago about oil drilling and coal mining. We’re still here. Some of us have learned something from that. Some have learned nothing.

      • DJD11

        Of course he doesn’t get any credit. You wouldn’t begrudge it to him even if he was the one out there creating the jobs on his own, one by one.

    • Anon

      Really? I feel a vote agast my own interests would be a vote for the party that wants to shrink government influence and regulation to almost nothing so that corporations can basically control the entire country.

      • Jim Bean

        You’ve inadvertently exposed your lack of knowledge. No one has proposed anything remotely close to ‘ shrink(ing) government influence and regulation to almost nothing so that corporations can basically control the entire country.”

        That’s an illusion (effectively) fed to you by those seeking to manipulate you.

      • Jo Clark

        Oh, look! You’ve inadvertently exposed your lack of knowledge! Google Grover Norquist and his infamous “drown it in the bathtub” comment.

      • Jim Bean

        This one? The one you maliciously edited? “”My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub.” – Grover Norquist ”

        Shame on you.

      • Alierias

        And, how is that “unedited” version any different from the one Joe Clark posted? Norquist’s intent is clear : “…where we can drown it in a bathtub”

      • Jim Bean

        Its different to the extent that ‘half’ is not remotely close to ‘almost nothing.’

      • Raji the Green Witch

        “Drown it in the bathtub” is NOT a figment of the imagination! the point is, they want to do away with government entirely or make it so weak that it is ineffective.

      • Don

        And if government doesn’t run things, who does? Corporations? They have too much…make that waaaaayyyy too much…power…now. If we didn’t have political parties beholden to their corporate masters, that’d be ok too.

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        Grover Norquist has famously said he wants to “shrink government to the size where it can be drowned in a bathtub.” You are against regulation. In what alternative universe have you been living?

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      • Jonas Planck

        Here’s another little fact you might have missed while believing everything you were told:

        POLITICIANS LIE.

        look it up.

      • FD Brian

        they also cheat and steal.

      • FD Brian

        well, libertarians think that and the far right is very close to being libertarianish.

    • Alierias

      Maybe you don’t care that without regulations, you would be living in the equivalent of China: unbreathable air, undrinkable water, inedible, and downright poisonous food, no one checking scales or pumps to insure a truthful measure, no way to tell if the building you live in will fall down or not, because there was no one to ensure the materials and construction were up to any standards…
      Shall I go on? Read Adam Smith — capitalism NEEDS strong regulation to properly function. Without it, cheaters, liars, and midnight dumpers undermine the fair market, and the whole thing collapses, like it almost did in 2008.

      • Jim Bean

        I’m not opposed to reasonable regulation. I’m opposed to irrational regulation born of a desire to appease some little, but loud, segment of society. Liberals would regulate how many squares of toilet paper we can use and have a GoPro installed in our toilets to ‘regulate’ the behavior if allowed to run unobstructed. They’re already trying to regulate the size of soft drinks, for example. (And, no, that fact that YOU think its a good idea is not the same as it actually being a good idea.)

      • FuzzyBunnyFeet

        I’m opposed to irrational deregulation born of a desire to appease some little, but loud, segment of society like the NRA.

      • Jim Bean

        The NRA fights to preserve the 2nd Amendment regulation. Not remove it.

      • Raji the Green Witch

        I haven’t seen ANY political organization trying to REMOVE the 2nd amendment at all. Urge a bit more closer scrutiny of who does and does not have access to firearms, yes. But THAT is covered in the Constitution as well. Felons and certain levels of insanity ARE constitutionally prohibited from participating in certain rights and functions which every other citizen IS entitled to participate in.

      • Jim Bean

        What you say is credible. There are a few basically impotent political organizations who would install enough regulations to make the 2nd meaningless but they are of no consequence other than making life difficult for Democratic Party politicians.

        For the sake technical correctness, felons are not ‘constitutionally prohibited.’ That implies there is something in the constitution that sanctions it, whatever ‘it’ is. In fact, they have forfeited their constitutional entitlements – including the one to freedom in many instances.

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        No, the NRA fights to enrich gun manufacturers. Who has tried to take away the Second Amendment?

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      • Drgulla

        What 2nd Amendment regulations are the NRA fighting to preserve? What “regulations” are contained in the 2nd Amendment? You mean that only a well-regulated militia should have guns?

      • Jim Bean

        “only a well-regulated militia should have guns?” That old saw has been so thoroughly rebuked so often I’m a little surprised to see anyone still confused about it. But its your lucky day.

        “I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the
        whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to
        enslave them.”

        George Mason

        Co-author of the Second Amendment

        during Virginia’s Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788

      • christianh

        EXCEPT that’s EXACTLY what it says… And idiot, MOST people had to hunt for their own food which meant having at least a rifle…

        The point of the second Amendment is THE MILITIA… Which became the National Guard…

        Join up and help take out ISIL tough guys…

      • Jim Bean

        I have an idea. I’ll go ask the guy who co-wrote that amendment what he meant by ‘militia’. Then I’ll get back to you.

        OK. I’m back. Here’s what he said.

        “I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is
        the best and most effectual way to enslave them.” George Mason, Co-author of the Second Amendment during Virginia’s Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788

        If I were you, I’d go back and give a piece of my mind to whoever hung you out to dry on that one.

      • christianh

        So Lincoln called EVERY AMERICAN when he deployed the militia over a strike…?

        What is the National Guard…? All the people…? Why does anyone think this government will become tyrannical…?

        The two of you should be in therapy together…

      • Jim Bean

        The colonists were ordinary citizens of England who had guns. They used those guns (and some others given to them by friends) to defeat their own government when they became disenchanted with them. Then they formed their own government and wanted to make sure (constitution) they would always have the tools necessary to overthrow that one too, should the need arise. The possibility of tyranny wasn’t so farfetched for them. They’d just witnessed it.

      • christianh

        The reason for the Revolution was TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION in England… You should be calling your Congressman and asking them why you pay taxes and businesses control the government… Once again sponsored by the GOP…

      • karensc

        So, you tea partiers are planning to overthrow the government because you don’t like what? Rules? Laws? Regulations that protect people you don’t think should be protected? Go to Somalia. That’s what they have all day long. See how long you last over there. Coward.

      • Jim Bean

        Not planning to overthrow it. Just prudently preserving the ability to make it possible.

      • karensc

        Take your gun and go to Syria and fight ISIL. You won’t, because like most of your kind, you are basically a yellow, cowardly POS.

      • Jim Bean

        That’s about the most unsophisticated brain fart I’ve ever heard.

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      • bobg

        Your argument us rife with fallacies Jim. Your assertions are based on slippery slope, ad hominem and overgeneralization. One guy hates big sodas. Nobody has ever mentioned toilet paper or toilet cameras. Stop acting like a petulant child and open your eyes to reality. Or stop posting b.s.

      • Champ86

        bobg, you’re right, his unfounded points only make any argument of his illegitimate

      • Alierias

        Wow, that some imagination you have…
        You’ll notice also that Bloomberg’s soda ban hasn’t gone nationwide, unlike the smoking indoors (hallelujah!) ban has. However, both of those regulations/restrictions are borne from scientific studies showing unequivocally that both smoking and excessive soda consumption is BAD FOR YOU, and I for one, don’t want to pay even more than I already do for health coverage, so it’s in MY INTEREST to ensure that the average health of the average citizen is good. Restricting soda sizes, but not the number of sodas one may purchase, makes an individual citizen THINK about what they are doing, rather than mindlessly filling up that 7-11 mega-gulp and drinking 1800 calories of sugar. You are free to buy 10 sodas and drink them, but maybe, just maybe, you’ll realize it might be a bad idea…

      • Jim Bean

        I don’t think I need your help with my thinking. I also think that the fact that YOU (and yours) think you possess the capacity to ‘help’ others with their thinking indicates you have an elevated, but wholly unsubstantiated, sense of superiority.

        Driving a car results in accidents and drives up health care costs. Want to ban them too? Or are you willing, in this case, to forego your righteousness long enough to preserve your selfish interests?

      • Alierias

        Driving a car REQUIRES you to have insurance, to protect yourself, and others, from the consequences of any potential accident. There are also an exhaustive list of regulations/laws governing the operation of said vehicle, as well as standards in it’s manufacture, and the safety features it MUST contain, as well as a robust justice system to punish those who would flaunt those sensible restrictions.
        All legislated by our representatives, which we, as citizens, elected and demanded that they enact. So, lots of people think like I do, meaning they examine the evidence and come to a reasoned, rational conclusion.

      • Raji the Green Witch

        Ah, but there ARE numerous regulations about car ownership, drivers and all sorts of things related to cars. So, according to your logic then, regulations concerning guns should be just as acceptable!

      • Jim Bean

        Driving a car is not a constitutional right.

      • John

        You do realize that to legally drive a car, a dangerous transportation tool that is designed to transport people quickly, you must go through a semi-lengthy testing and reregistration process, right? And that it is illegal to operate a vehicle without a license.

        So why shouldn’t a tool that is designed entirely to kill something/someone not require any of that? If anything, obtaining a gun should be harder than obtaining a car, due to the fact that a car is not designed as a killing tool. How is this hard to understand?

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      • FD Brian

        well how else would I be able to satisfy my constitutional right to pursue happiness.

      • christianh

        Owning a gun is a USELESS ONE… If no criminals can get them how do you need one…?

      • Jim Bean

        I need them because I can’t run fast enough to catch a deer or fly fast enough to catch a pheasant. And, btw, do you know of any where in the world where a criminal can’t get a gun?

      • christianh

        Please, how do you hunt for cheeseburgers…? And why did you answer a question with a question…?

      • Jim Bean

        Your question was “how do you need one (gun)” I replied, ‘I need them because I can’t run fast enough to catch a deer or fly fast enough to catch a pheasant.”

        The reply was a ‘statement’ not a question.

      • christianh

        So a crossbow wouldn’t work…? What guns do you have and do you buy steaks…?

      • Jim Bean

        Yeah, a cross bow would work for a deer. Hitting a flying pheasant would work too, about 1 time in a thousand. For that matter, so would a horse and buggy.

      • Pat

        Problem with your statement here. There ARE cases where a person’s ‘right’ to drive is taken away. For example. when you’ve been caught driving under the influence, you’re fined, and your license is suspended. Also, we have HEAVY regulations regarding our vehicles, as well as mandatory car insurance if we do damage to another’s vehicle. In fact, you can’t even walk into a dealership and BUY a car without proof of identity, a credit check, and proof of insurance. In my state, it actually takes significantly longer to buy the necessary vehicle to get to things like “your job” and “grocery stores” and “hospital appointments” than it does to purchase the completely unnecessary “rueger 9 mm pistol”. My state, oddly enough still doesn’t have laws regulating concealed carry. You can LITERALLY walk up to a counter in the local Fred Meyers and walk out with whatever gun you want…in about an hour. They didn’t check our ids for our ages (like they would for an alcohol purchase). They didn’t run a background check (like some jobs require before hiring you), or make us provide proof of having taken classes regarding gun safety (required for driver’s licenses in most states). We didn’t have to take a test to prove we knew how to use a firearm, or that we knew the local firearm laws (as is required for a driver’s license). Regulation isn’t banning.

      • Charles Vincent

        “In fact, you can’t even walk into a dealership and BUY a car without proof of identity, a credit check, and proof of insurance.”
        A dealership isn’t the only place to purchase a car. For example I can grab a news paper or want add and look up car lisitngs and run out an buy a car without providing anything but the cash required to purchase the Vehicle.

        “You can LITERALLY walk up to a counter in the local Fred Meyers and walkout with whatever gun you want…in about an hour. They didn’t check our ids for our ages (like they would for an alcohol purchase). They didn’t run a background check (like some jobs require before hiring you), or make us provide proof of having taken classes regarding gun safety (required for driver’s licenses in most states).”

        This is most likely a lie. and on the off chance it is true Fred Meyers broke FFL dealer law and can have their FFL license revoked.

        But in the end I think you are full of shit

      • Raji the Green Witch

        Charles, try driving that car that you purchased privately on ANY public road, I guarantee that you will be stopped and asked to show registration and proff of insurance. It doesn’t matter where or who you buy it off of, the car is STILL heavily regulated. YOU will still have to prove that you are a licensed driver (meaning that you had to prove that you were capable operating a vehicle according to the rules of the road).

      • Charles Vincent

        First reread what I posted. I never said a peep about driving the car I spoke solely on the purchase of the car. which directly addressed the persons claim to which I was replying. Your whole post is Non Sequitur.

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        But you do need some help with thinking.

        Cars weren’t designed to kill people; guns were. Regulations have made cars much safer (better engineering for crashes, air bags, (once opposed by Lee Iacoca), gas tanks more protected (are you old enough to remember the Pinto with the exploding rear tank?). None of those regulations killed any jobs.

      • Charles Vincent

        The purpose for which an item is designed for is irrelevant. I can use any item as a weapon to kill or maim. You will never solve the problem of violence if you continue to blame in animate objects. violence and death from violent acts have plague our species since the beginning of time well before guns or even swords.
        the quicker you and others realize you waste effort on the symptom and not the disease the quicker the problem will get solved.

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        quick quiz————-
        (a) how many GUNS are in the USA today
        (b) how many do we need?
        (c) using math; and using ‘a’ and ‘b’….. do we need MORE guns,,,or LESS guns?

      • Charles Vincent

        1) 300+ million.
        2) As many as each individual sees fit.
        3) see answer 2.

      • JOHN McCARTHY NUDE ARREST

        wrong answer– do we need MORE guns ????
        if so; how many exactly?

      • Charles Vincent

        I thought the answer was clear….

      • JOHN McCARTHY NUDE ARREST

        nope———— I want to know if napiform Charles ‘thinks’ 300 million PLUS guns is enough ( or not) for America to be considered ‘armed”
        ==========================================
        try to avoid spinning here; chuckles….

      • Charles Vincent

        We have been over this the answer is what ever the individual think he needs. You want more guns buy them you want less guns sell them or don’t buy them at all its your choice and no one else.

      • christianh

        So doesn’t that make you like a crazy cat lady..?

      • Charles Vincent

        No it makes me responsible for my own safety and well being . In addition it places me in the I support peoples unalienable rights category regardless of my personal beliefs.

      • karensc

        Coward, afraid of his own shadow. “Gotta have a gun, some little black kid might come by. I’m so scared of them black people. Gotta kill them.” That’s why you morons want guns.

      • Charles Vincent

        You’re an idiot if that’s what you think. A gun is a tool of self defense and for many a way to provide food for their family. Way to look like a complete tool.

      • karensc

        Guns make it easier to kill people. Cowards like you have to have firepower I guess because you are afraid of everything.

      • Charles Vincent

        Not really I can kill just as easily with a car, or a rock, or my hands its just more up-close and personal depending on the weapon of choice. i don’t think you understand how fragile humans are.

      • christianh

        That same old car argument.. CARS have a purpose OTHER THAN killing.. Guns are for killing… PERIOD…

        And you DO need help with your thinking… The right to own a gun is NOT as important as the right to not have poisoned water, which the GOP supports even though they won’t have any either…

      • Jim Bean

        But lets make the argument about human life. Both take human lives and neither are necessary. I know you didn’t mean to but it sounded like you had assigned a specific value to human life like, too high to sacrifice for the other guy to just to own a gun but not high enough that I should sacrifice my wheels (or even my mobile phone.)

        You water is going to be poisoned by the toxic brew seeping from the mountain ranges of garbage landfills we’re creating long before oil spills or fracking have any substantial effect on it.

      • christianh

        So we should not stop trying to poison it other ways…? Should we work on cleaning up the garbage at least…?

        Republicans prove every day they don’t think rationally… I stopped driving in 2004…

      • Jim Bean

        DUI? (Sorry, just kidding. Couldn’t help it) Cleaning up the garbage should be way at the top of the list. Look around out the mountains of landfills created in just the last hundred years. Now imagine another hundred years with twice the people and quadruple the refuse. Then imagine that toxic brew that is forming at the bottom of them seeping into the water table. Am I being irrational?

      • christianh

        And the deregulation from the GOP makes everything harder.. They fight against EPA regulations that would make companies clean up their own messes…

        So the article is in fact, true… Republicans only make things harder for everyone… All so you can run through the woods shooting at Bambi…?

      • karensc

        Ash ponds in North Carolina that polluted the Roanoke River, main water source for a whole section of the state of North Carolina. Republican governor tried his hardest to cover it up. In the pocket of Duke energy, where he worked. They were one of his biggest campaign contributors. Republicans lie, cheat, steal, for the almighty dollar.

      • Jim Bean

        Obama gave a sweetheart deal to fundraiser George B. Kaiser that enabled him to recover his Solyndra investments ahead of the taxpayers investments when the scam went belly up. Democrats lie, cheat, steal, for the almighty dollar.

      • karensc

        Stupid false equivalencies. That’s all you have. Coward.

      • Jim Bean

        That’s all I have because any equivalency that exposes the Left’s hypocrisies is ALWAYS false because they truly believe there is always something ‘different’ about their half of the equivalency. Whats ‘different’ is they did it and everything they do is righteous even though the same thing done by some one else is not.

      • Andy Baker

        I’m a liberal and regulations on soda sounds like a money making republican scam! If liberals want to be taken seriously they can fuck off with dumb shit regulations like that! What’s next the entire fast food industry? Get a clue about reality!

      • Charles Vincent

        It was democratic Mayor Micheal Bloomberg who tried to regulate soft drink sizes.

        http://www DOT nytimes DOT com/2012/09/14/nyregion/health-board-approves-bloombergs-soda-ban DOT html?_r=0

        And although he is registered asn an INdependant since 2007 he was a registered democrat before 2001 and a republican from 2001-2007. despite the flip flop in party affiliation his policies are democrat/liberal agenda.

        The irony here is you supported a republican.

      • christianh

        Bloomberg is an INDEPENDENT…

      • Charles Vincent

        Who was also republican and for the majority of his life a democrat. I already went over this.

      • christianh

        It was stupid to bring it up.. maybe he’s as tired of seeing fat slobs slogging everywhere like they’re God’s gift to not being a fat stupid slob as I am…
        Walk your fat asses to the gym… We just got overtaken by Mexico as the most obese country and child obesity was an epidemic…

        But guess what, some of the new policies have lowered the rate… Damn that Michelle Obama… Why isn’t she out twerking somewhere, right…?

      • Charles Vincent

        Doesn’t matter you don’t get to tell others how to live. They want to be fat and slovenly that’s their business not yours. Just like if they are LGBT it isn’t your business.

      • christianh

        It’s not abut telling people how to live… Obese people affect others more than gays… We use a lot more fuel to carry us as has been reported by airlines…

        Soon we may have to change the average number for elevators, but fortunately new policies are lessening the childhood problem…

        Cookies my ass Palin…

      • Charles Vincent

        Yes it is, it’s exactly that.

        “Obese people affect others more than gays… We use a lot more fuel to carry us as has been reported by airlines…”
        Says you. sorry I don’t recognize your Opinion as fact. airplanes could use more fuel because they carry more passengers. Just saying.
        The essence of the no drinks larger than 16 oz was we who know more than you are going to make your decision for you.

      • christianh

        That was introduced by an INDENPENDENT… Not a liberal…

      • jerrystraut

        The Republican mayor of New York City introduced the soft drink size limit. How is that a liberal idea? Next.

      • Raji the Green Witch

        Don’t confuse him with the facts… LOL

      • Charles Vincent

        he was listed as an independant when he tried banning soft drinks.
        “http://www DOT nytimes DOT com/2012/09/14/nyregion/health-board-approves-bloombergs-soda-ban DOT html?_r=0

        And
        although he is registered as an Independent since 2007 he was a registered democrat before 2001 and a republican from 2001-2007. despite the flip flop in party affiliation his policies are democrat/liberal agenda.

        The irony here is you supported a republican.

      • Raji the Green Witch

        Jim, I’m a liberal. I don’t care in the slightest HOW many squares of TP that you use. Nor do I even care IF you use it or do not at all. And certainly, I have NO interest in viewing you in your bathroom with a GoPro or any other camera, for that matter. Why are you so paranoid about MY interest or non-interest in what goes in in YOUR bathroom? You have some serious issues that go further than just your politics and should probably seek professional help.

      • Jim Bean

        Its called ‘hyperbole.’ Used to illustrate a concept. Not meant to be taken literally.

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        Your “hyperbole” tends to diminish your arguments to the point of irrelevance.

      • Jim Bean

        So stop reading them, already.

      • SophieCT

        Actually, Jim Bean, hyperbole is lying.

      • Jim Bean

        An exaggeration is technically a lie. That is correct. Its not one that is malicious or intended to deceive. One who then attempts to argue that it WAS intended to deceive is, however, engaged in something malicious.

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

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        =======================================
        case in point: religious idiots

      • andreaallennyc

        Your comments about liberals are entirely ridiculous. I’ll excuse the toilet paper comment as hyperbole. But Bloomberg, of ban big soda fame, is in no way a liberal … He’s a Republican and in many ways a conservative and, more than anything is very pro big business … An economic conservative and a social moderate. (Do you just decide someone is a liberal if you disagree with them?) I was not particularly for (or against) that ban, I just thought the whole thing was not worth the trouble. But keep in mind there would have been no ban on buying multiple sugary drinks (which I certainly would have been against!). The rest of your comments are equally without basis and/or just ridiculous.

      • Jim Bean

        Bloomberg is no Republican.

        A Democrat before seeking elective office, Bloomberg switched his party registration in 2001 to run for mayor as a Republican. He defeated opponent Mark Green in a close election held just weeks after the September 11 terrorist attacks. Bloomberg won a second term in 2005 and left the Republican Party two years later.[4] He campaigned to weaken the city’s term limits law and was elected to his third term in 2009 as an independent candidate on the Republican ballot line.

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        Bloomberg was a Republican. Too bad, so sad.

      • Charles Vincent

        He was a democrat prior to 2001 and an independant after 2007.

      • andreaallennyc

        I lived in NY through all of this, you have an interesting slant on all this. We have had liberal republican (and other parties) mayors, but there is no way Bloomberg is one of them. There is no way he would have gotten the Republican nomination if he were. So, yes, you just label people liberal if you don’t like them. You can do that if you want but, sorry, you can’t expect anyone to respect your POVs when you do that.

      • Charles Vincent

        To bad so sad you’re incorrect.
        http://en DOT wikipedia DOT org/wiki/Michael_Bloomberg
        and the NY time article that links his profile and it lists him as being an independent. click his name in blue in the article Jim bean is correct.

        http://www DOT nytimes DOT com/2012/09/14/nyregion/health-board-approves-bloombergs-soda-ban DOT html?_r=0

      • andreaallennyc

        Umm… And that shows he is a liberal? Bloomberg has had a variety of affiliations and often ran on multiple lines, including Republican. My point is that he is not a liberal and he did run as a Republican and wouldn’t have been nominated by a recent Republican party in NYC if he were a liberal. Too bad you don’t read before you respond.

      • Charles Vincent

        Then why is he supporting liberal policies? By your actions we will know you.

      • andreaallennyc

        Oh, come on! He almost never supports liberal policies. He’s a big business, economic conservative who is pretty moderate on social issues … But rarely supports anything actually liberal. Liberals in NY hate him; moderates are ambivalent but supported him for economic reasons against weak and/or untrustworthy democratic opponents. I’m not quite sure what that soda bit was … Certainly not conservative, but more weird than anything else. It is hardly the centerpiece of any liberal agenda I’ve ever seen.

      • Charles Vincent

        HMm Supports gun control a Liberal cause/policy. Supports the ACA another Liberal policy. Was a registered democrat for the majority of his life. I would say that puts him on the left more that on the right.

      • andreaallennyc

        You, of course, are entitled to your opinion and we will simply need to agree to disagree. I think you need to take a broader look at his positions. Keep in mind many moderates and even some conservatives support gun control. His gun control position is not particularly extreme and he could not have ever won office in NY if he were not at least moderate on issues such as abortion and gun control. Many moderates also support the ACA. Especially moderates who are politicians in large cities. Do you think Romney is a liberal because he put together an ACA type of plan in MA or supported abortion. No, he was being expedient. (I am not criticizing Romney here! Nor praising him. Most members of my family are committed LDS. I know where he is coming from.) Given how liberals hate Bloomberg, it is difficult for me to see how anyone can consider him a liberal. But many things in this world right now that I find unbelievable.

      • Charles Vincent

        I don’t think Romney is a liberal nor do I care if you criticize him. The problem with bloomberg is the MSM paints him as a liberal. And don’t get me wrong on the whole healthcare issue I know something needs done to remedy the problem I just don’t think the ACA is the solution for many reasons that are irrelevant to this conversation.

      • Jim Bean

        I label people as liberals when they presume to appoint themselves as some other adults nanny. Party affiliation means nothing to me. I merely pointed out a mistake.

      • andreaallennyc

        Well, so you choose to use words with totally original meanings, like liberal and mistake. That’s fine, but it only works if you’re talking to yourself. Now I know. Go for it!

      • Jim Bean

        I have no idea what you just said. Normally, I read pretty well, too.

      • Raji the Green Witch

        He has an “R” behind his name. That makes him a Republican. Jim, YOU do not get to say who is and who is not what THEY state that they are. Based on YOUR say so, Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Eisenhower and Nixon would not have been Republicans because they stood for the common man or signed legislation that YOU consider to be “liberal” into law.

      • Jim Bean

        Huh uh. Bloomberg left the Democratic party in 2002 to run as a Republican. He left the Republican party in 2007 to run as an Independent. Has nothing to do with what I say.

      • Jon Floate

        Would you even recognize an irrational regulation if you saw it? Honestly who do you hate more? Regulate the size of soft drinks? One mayor cuts out two of the biggest sizes of cups available and automatically it’s a conspiracy for mind control? Where did you get the GoPro memo? How did you know? TELL ME DAMMIT!! You weren’t supposed to find out! I’ll tell you what, we’ll just send a drone over to your house and we’ll get it ourselves, or better yet, we’ll send a swat team to perform a “reasonable search” on your house and find it. Then we’ll call you a terrorist and send you to GITMO for trying to infiltrate the toilet industry. (And no, the fact YOU think it’s a bad idea is not the same as it actually being a bad idea. WTF?)

      • Mary Sassin

        If you can’t debate without using ludicrous examples..(squares of toilet paper)..you have already lost the debate..if you are just trying to justify your ignorance …please proceed

      • Drgulla

        Seriously, could we see this “toilet paper” legislation of which you speak? Or are you just pulling that out of…well, you know where. And the soda ban- that was one guy, billionaire mayor Bloomberg. Hardly part of the national Democratic platform. So, once again, a fact-free dispatch from the Right Wing.

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        Uh, exactly what “irrational regulations?”

      • Jim Bean

        A child can’t a bubble blowing gun at another kid. A student gets suspended for wearing a T shirt with an American flag. A student gets suspended for wearing an NRA T shirt. A student gets suspended for wearing a USMC T shirt. A student gets suspended for wearing a Catholic cross. A student gets suspended for wearing a ‘Support our Troops’ shirt. A student suspended for saying ‘bless you’ when someone sneezed. A student suspended for pink stains in hair after participating in a charity run. A student suspended after disarming an armed student on a school bus. A student suspend for having a small pocket knife. A student suspended for hugging a teacher. A student suspended for ‘touching’ another students prescription pill. A student suspended for hugging another student. A student suspended for wearing a Pepsi T shirt on official Coca Cola day. A kindergarten student suspended for point his finger like a gun.

        This just scratches the surface of what insane controls Liberals, if given an unobstructed path to play God, will come up with.

        If a guy got suspended for coming to school dressed like a girl, however, that would be a whole different ballgame.

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

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      • Shawn Behanna

        I think these replies show how the typical conservative exaggerates and generalizes just to oppose anything of liberal origin. Maybe they’re afraid that supporting these points would eventually lead to such extremes.

      • Jonas Planck

        Well, since you’ve reduced the choice to a binary equation of absolute extremes, then all other options are now off the table. Great. You’ve effectively demanded that the only possible courses of action are absolute governmental tyranny or absolute corporate tyranny, with no breathing room in between. Wonderful. Good job throwing your ideals under the bus, there Tex. Since you saw fit to remove all other options, then under your flawed and primitive premise, I would be given no choice but to choose the left: Government has constitutional restrictions on power, corporations do not.

        This is a game for people who can count higher than the number two. Please recuse yourself from it until you learn basic arithmetic.

      • Jim Bean

        Jim Bean says: “I’m not opposed to reasonable regulation.”

        Jonas hears: (Jim Bean) effectively demanded that the only possible courses of action are absolute governmental tyranny or absolute corporate tyranny, with no breathing room in between.”

        Then Jonas structures a reply to the comment he made up. Clever!

      • Jonas Planck

        Your statement of openness towards state power, if reasonably applied, would hold more weight if it was not followed by an argument explaining why you think pursuing reasonable regulation is an exercise in futility, because politicians tend to want to micromanage things. Bosses do that too. There’s a lot of crossover in that demographic nowadays. The binary substitution is inherent the paradox.
        For my next trick, I will take this vivid straw man I’ve constructed of you and go drop it on the lawn of someone who disagrees with you. If the perceived failings in logic still stick, I’ll try again with a few more people.
        We might be on to something here, Beaker! Bring the tape recorder!

      • Jim Bean

        I’m sorry. I can’t find where I said I ‘think pursuing reasonable regulation is an exercise in futility.’ And since that’s the foundation of your response. . . well. . . .

      • Jonas Planck

        “Liberals would regulate the size of toilet paper,” a statement calculated to imply that they should be politically disenfranchised in order to preserve your freedom to use the entire roll every time you void your bowels. My condolences on your condition. However, such disenfranchisement would remove all obstacles preventing the conservatives from doing the exact same thing… not through laws, but through policies that grant your employer the right to control every aspect of your life and simply END your life if you have no employer. Same thing, except under your “freedom,” there’s an inviolable dress code, a requirement that you have a certain specific “attitude” at all times, and your time itself is someone else’s property. Sure, you MIGHT be allowed to use toilet paper, IF they choose to pay you enough. But that won’t be your choice, it’ll be your OWNER’S choice… that’s how an “ownership society” works. Your freedoms will be restricted to the “freedom” to do what you are told or suffer the consequences, which is not freedom.
        That you are extremely reluctant to stand by your implications is telling enough. That you will refuse to say just HOW you plan on eliminating liberals from having any political power is even more telling (I’m guessing it’s some magical Utopian “everyone will just start agreeing with me!” strategy, because otherwise, it’ll require internment camps. Which are not exactly bastions of free choice.
        The logical quandary you posed leaves no other alternatives, regardless of whether or not you “believe” otherwise. Preceding a statement of racist beliefs with “I’m not racist, BUT…” doesn’t change the nature of the statement. Preceding a statement that demands the political disenfranchisement of over half the population with a statement denying that you’re saying that doesn’t change the fact that it’s what you’re saying.

      • Jim Bean

        I really don’t know where to begin so I’ll simply suggest that it is time for you to have your vast arsenal of imaginative and intuitive powers recalibrated

      • Jillz

        “I’m opposed to irrational regulation born of a desire to appease some little, but loud, segment of society.”

        Republicans want to regulate women’s bodies. Are you opposed to that? Or are you part of the little, but loud segment of society that needs to be appeased?

      • Jim Bean

        I’m opposed to trying to regulate women’s bodies. But I’m also opposed to digging in to my pocket to pay for abortions necessitated by a womans decision NOT to exercise full responsibility for her own prior to the moment of conception.

      • Jillz

        Are you also against having to pay for Viagra for other men?

        Also, are you against sex education in schools and organizations like Planned Parenthood who work to prevent unwanted pregnancy?

      • wendy

        The soft drink issue was so taxpayers wouldn’t have to foot the bill for all the new cases of diabetes

      • The Reader

        You are so right-on, Alierias. People hate government but use it every day and don’t recognize how important it is to them. Such an enigma is over their heads.

      • wendy

        To add, private companies expecting people to work for $2 an hour. Let’s go back to sweat shops so the business owners can afford to hire

    • FD Brian

      “partisan, anal-retentive policies and regulations”

      you mean like voter ID laws?

      • Jim Bean

        Voter ID laws, if enacted would be applied to all voters regardless of party and have the same effect on both parties, as near as I can tell. That a group of people who would not protest reasonable identification requirements for anything else would be so adamantly opposed to requiring it in the instance of voting eligibility is indeed curious.

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        The idea of voter ID laws is to make it harder for people to vote for Democrats. There have been numerous reports about why the laws disproportionately affect those people. The effect is NOT the same for both parties.

        I think we should have mandatory voting and it’s up to the government to make sure EVERYONE has a free voter ID card.

      • Charles Vincent

        The counter to that statement is it allows illegals and non citizens to vote for candidates.

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        since 2000 there have been one B.I.L.L.I.O.N. votes cast in the USA
        >>>>>one BILLION<<<<<<<<
        ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, destroying our elective integrity it has been proven that 31 ( thirty-one) cases of CONFIRMED VOTER FRAUD has occured
        " thirty one"…..out of one BILLION
        ********************************************************
        Hmmmmmm,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, voter ID laws ???? why werent they in play / in place when a republican was in power???
        OOOOPS: I just hit chuckles with facts

      • Charles Vincent

        Over time numbers are irrelevant, a flood of illegal voters could easily sway an election in a given year.

      • JOHN McCARTHY NUDE ARREST

        u ( again) did NOT answer my question
        ———————————————————-
        why were they not needed when a repub was in power?

      • Charles Vincent

        I never said they weren’t. Can you say strawman?

      • JOHN McCARTHY NUDE ARREST

        u are soooooo easy to make spin away from answering–
        again: u did not answer- thus failure be thy evening gown

      • Charles Vincent

        No you refuse to acknowledge the answer I gave and continue to insist I said or implied something I didn’t.

      • FD Brian

        But they don’t, you know it, I know it, everyone here knows it, republicans have been caught saying it, those laws are to keep the poor and blacks from voting, a group of people who typically vote democrat. For the party of less regulation, they sure seem to come up with regulations that don’t seem to solve any problem or one so substantially small that the regulation is pointless.

      • Jim Bean

        You think its not possible, in this society in this day and age, to come up with a simple enough process to enable everyone to acquire a uniform means of ID?

      • FD Brian

        then put the system in place.

      • SophieCT

        At NO cost to the voter. This includes but is not limited to legal fees, transportation, reimbursement for missed work time to comply.

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        how about the same ID regulations for buying GUNS?
        OHWAIT: jim bean is against ”regulations”
        ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, sorry about that ; chief

      • Jim Bean

        For a guy with so many aliases you don’t seem to be a good candidate for claiming no one would stoop to faking an identity.

      • JOHN McCARTHY NUDE ARREST

        hey imbecile,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, look up JOHN McCARTHY MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY OCT 2012 NUDE SCHOOL BREAKDOWN,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, and get back to me with more of your incredible stupidity–
        you really should look up facts b4 U open your white trash repigious regressive ignorance,,,,really!
        ========================================

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        fact: ( jim; get ur sneakers on and RUN)
        in the USA since 2000 ( up to may 2014) over one B.I.L.L.I.O.N. votes have been cast in elections
        >>>one BILLION<<<<<
        ,,,there have been 37 ( actually 31 but im being 'liberal') confirmed ( see: confirmed) cases of VOTER FRAUD
        **********************************************************
        now,,,,jimbo,,,,,,,,,,, if U are still here: what PCT% of voting VS fraud is that??
        help me out here jimbo– im a stoooopid liberal progressive awash in FACTS

      • Jim Bean

        You neglected to mention what percent of votes cast were screened for voter fraud? Once I know that, I can do a calculation that will project the actual amount of voter fraud actually occurring. Anxiously awaiting.

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        in a court of law u go to jail/prison for a CONFIRMED crime– facts make up the guilt; not something subjective. MUST be OBJECTIVE–
        do U have this information? is it available? if U do not,,,,,,U have spun away as U always do
        ************************************************************
        EAGERLY awaiting those ” facts” james

      • Jim Bean

        No. You volunteered an incomplete data set. I asked, appropriately, for the remaining data. You’re ‘it.’

      • JOHN McCARTHY NUDE ARREST

        wrong again,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, your the ONLY one claiming it is incomplete
        ————-prove it so…

    • suburbancuurmudgeon

      Except that hasn’t happened. The things that wrecked the economy have been Republican spending for two wars without raising taxes to pay for them, an unfunded Medicare D benefit that was a giveaway to the pharmaceutical industry, and looking the other way while Wall Street banks jumped into the subprime market and made money by betting those loans would default. In the aftermath, the GOP did NOTHING to help get us back on our feet and voted against every jobs bill.

    • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

      and again I ask: where O where O where were you james when BUSH and his cronies GREW the US government by leaps and bounds?
      ================================================
      you were OK with it as he was a white republican with a Christian sounding name
      shall we look at all the ” economic growth” during 2000-2008 and compare it to obamas 6 yrs???

      • Jim Bean

        No. I was not OK with it. You’re making things up. I’m a registered Democrat (though deserving of excommunication because of my thoughts.) I’m also agnostic. And you’re not clairvoyant.

      • Jim Bean

        OK. It averaged 1.75% during Bush’s 8 yrs and 1.2% during Obama’s first 5. The Bush years were better but I’m pretty sure that’s not the point you were trying to make. What WAS the point you were trying to make?

      • JOHN McCARTHY NUDE ARREST

        job creation and unemployment and deficit in relation to GDP
        ========================================
        wanna play with that? (NOTE: job market participation is inconsequential as ( a) baby boomers are retiring ( b) many– such as I– are now going ”self employed” – see: I have TWO LLCs in the state of FLA (c) the ration of those who ENTER the job market VS those who leave ( not counting ‘a’ and ‘b’) remains at normal levels of 3-1 favoring entry… look it up b4 U show more regressive cherrypicking ignorance
        ********************************************************
        or,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,are U staunchly claiming we should go back to the direction our country went from 2000-2008??

      • Jim Bean

        The rest of the data, please.

    • How very 60’s of you. President Obama has shrunk the number of government employees. How is that working out for everyone? The air and water are cleaner. If businesses are going to continue to think that they own the air, water and soil around their plants and downwind and downstream communities are shit out of luck, then we NEED to regulate them.

  • P_Arthur

    The conservatives have fed the racist appetites to fight against the black man taking their freedoms.

    • TaxPaying American Voter

      Don’t forget Women!!

  • FuzzyBunnyFeet

    I’m curious. What was wrong with my second post in this thread? Why was it not approved?

    • Ian K

      The auto moderator sometimes doesn’t like posts with links in them, thats why some people put spaces in them..

  • Andy Baker

    Republicans support their right to be a racist hypocrite and to look down on other people! It’s the feeling that they’re some how better than another person that gets them through the day!

  • StarrGazerr615

    I think the main thing the Republican Party does for the people of this country is give them something to hate. It seems that most conservatives (not all) are entirely focused on their own personal needs and desires and find it offensive to consider doing something for the purpose of helping someone else while receiving no direct and immediate benefit themselves. So when someone says “we should feed the poor”, a proposition that has the highest morality and altruism behind it, conservatives need “permission” to oppose it and try to restrict is as much as possible. They can’t just come out and say “let them starve because I really NEED that 53rd million dollars in my bank account to survive” and the Republicans provide enough cover that they can advocate for letting poor people starve without having to use those words.

    For another example, just look at the birthers. Conservatives can’t really come out and SAY “don’t vote for the black guy” or “better to burn down the house than help the black guy put out the fire”, so the birthers gave them cover – “It’s not about race, its about supporting the Constitutional requirements. (oh, he’s black? hadn’t noticed.)”

    So, while the Republicans deprive their own supporters of their rights and their money, they give them something essential – permission to hate.

    • Raji the Green Witch

      ALL at the same time as trying to get someone to run for president who genuinely was NOT born in America and HAD dual citizenship right up until last year (Ted Cruz). Talk about hypocrisy!

      • StarrGazerr615

        And we haven’t even seen his birth certificate!! 🙂

      • They have posted his birth Certificate. Ted Cruz was born in canada.

      • Omar Spence

        They just think he is “more American” because he is white.

      • TaxPaying American Voter

        He still can’t be POTUS. The constitution reads- you have to be at least 35 years of age. Check. You have to be a resident for at least 14 years. Check. And here’s the clincher. You have to be a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES. Not born in Canada, Cuba or ANY where else. Many may not agree with Obama, but he was born in Hawaii.

      • Raji the Green Witch

        Correct, a Natural born citizen” However, that does NOT mean that he must be born in the United States, just that, at birth, he must BE a citizen. To BE a natural born U.S. citizen you must have at least ONE parent who IS already a U.S. citizen. that person could have been born ANYWHERE on the planet (or even OFF the planet, as the constitution makes NO mention of place of birth). IF born out of the U.S. the birth MUST have been registered with the nearest embassy or consulate. Period. The kicker is, however, that person can NOT have any citizenship loyalties to any OTHER Nation (this disqualifies Cruz as he had DUAL citizenship, right up until this past year). In other words his citizenship loyalty WAS divided between Canada and the United States.

      • TaxPaying American Voter

        Wrong.

      • vancall

        Correct, I read the entire law during the birtherism ranting.

      • RiverMikeRat

        Rafael’s mom didn’t register his birth in time, either.

      • reason_able

        Hawaii has been a part of the USA since 1959. Obama was born in 1961.

        Hawaii IS the US!!

    • Stephen Barlow

      it also give the haters a sense of unity, which is what most cowards need to have in order to yap and blathers. You think Klayman or Cruz would have a voice without the RED platform to stand on?

      But Equal Rights people need nothing but Righteousness to speak their peace. They also won’t stop because the cause “flags or fails”. Gay rights Rainbo Coalition folks are having children who will carry the flag.

      NO one will one touting Reaganomics after 2020. it’s be like McCarthyism in 1960, or flashing a KKK card in 1976.

      • TaxPaying American Voter

        I see the schizophrenia did NOT “skip” you, as you once thought.

      • Stephen Barlow

        I thought you committed suicide? I guess chewing your penis in a condom with your teeth out is a non poisonous habit.

      • Stephen Barlow

        oink ——-

    • Jean

      Something to hate and fear. Don’t forget fear.

    • RiverMikeRat

      It’s also about misinterpreting that part of The Constitution. SCOTUS has ruled that “natural born citizen” means not naturalized. At least one parent is American.

      They forgot to mention that McCain was born in Panama. They fail to mention that Rafael was born in Canada.

      • Mike Stidham

        McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone, which, by an act of Congress, was included as “sovereign U.S. soil”. McCain’s parents were U.S. citizens who were there because McCain’s father was stationed there with the US Navy. That means that by definition, McCain IS a natural born citizen.

      • RiverMikeRat

        By ruling of SCOTUS, since it isn’t defined in The Constitution, a “natural born citizen” is one who was born to at least one US citizen, no matter where in the world that person was born. Thank you for perfectly illustrating my point. Our current president IS a “natural born citizen.”

      • Mike Stidham

        Always glad to help. Yes, Obama, by virtue of having a mother who was a native-born Kansan (even if his father was Kenyan) is legit.

      • RiverMikeRat

        Kenyan, Lithuanian, or Venutian. Yep.

  • D.j. Maverick

    Conservatives are like the Ferengi in Star Trek, profit over everything…

    • StarrGazerr615

      Apparently they have taken the 261st Rule of Acquisition to heart:

      “A wealthy man can afford anything except a conscience.”

    • RiverMikeRat

      Hey! Be nice to the [email protected]!

  • forpeace

    “What The Hell Have Republicans Really Done For Conservative Voters?”
    The answer is very simple, they have done NOTHING.

    They are not even capable of governing. They never had/have any plan to improve this country and our economy, create more jobs, or even help their own voters. In order to win the elections they have been juggling between:

    ✓ Birth Certificate
    ✓ Voter ID and suppressing the voters
    ✓ IRS
    ✓ Benghazi
    ✓ ISIS
    And now it is Ebola.

    GOTPers are bunch of psychos.

    • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

      sadly,,,,,,,,,,,,these regressive simian republican losers simply do not care– their “friends” do not care,,,, their VOODOO pastor doesn’t care,,,,,,,, they don’t care as its ok to be a white trash regressive scumbag loser who believes in superstition and eshews facts

    • christianh

      White people need to decide what’s important… Being separate from blacks or all being in it together for the betterment of all…

      • Spiderdriver

        It’s Demographic destiny so you either roll with it or get crushed by it. I’m white but I despise right-wing assholes and left the South because I could not stand being surrounded by so many ignorant hicks. I would rather embrace the future than cling to the past.

      • TaxPaying American Voter

        I too was born in the south, have lived across the U.S.A. being transferred to many Air Force bases. Bigotry and racism are just as bad now, as in the 70’s. The south is just more vocal about it. Times change, but thinking doesn’t. I really don’t know what can change things, except- acceptance. In a few years we will all be of some type of “color”. Peace- out!

      • RiverMikeRat

        That’s one reason I moved to Brazil. You can be thrown in jail for racist comments and actions here. I like that.

      • Daddycool67

        Why should we (white people) get to make that big decision?

        There’s about 47% of the white people in this country who I wouldn’t trust to make ANY rational decisions!

    • ArmyWife

      Give us a real answer on Benghazi then! Hillary LIED. She F*CKING LIED!!! Have the woman come clean…have her admit she F*CKED UP! Have the White House admit they dropped the ball! Have them APOLOGIZE PUBLICLY to the families of the four that were murdered! TELL THE TRUTH AND then maybe we’ll remove this from all the other issues we ‘juggle’. Oh wait, no. These are real issues that are not given straight answers from Dems. Maybe us ‘psychos’ just want our government to answer for themselves. Do you really think that we believe that our own president doesn’t know about things until he hears about them on TV?!?! Give me a F*CKING break!

      • onehipcat

        People like you trip me out. You claim to be an army wife, but apparently have no clue how the Military, especially infantry/fast action teams work. This was a civilian outpost. A CIA Annex, not even an embassy, luckily Only 4 gentleman were killed when a Mob of people came in, fire bombed one site, killing the ambassador and his bodyguard who allegedly only had 1 side arm, aka a .45 handgun. Then 2 already brave warriors manned .50 cals on top of another CIA annex compound, and were tragically hit by mortars while fending off hundreds of attackers.

        There had recently been world wide protests within a day or 2 because of some controversy over desecrating of the Koran. So, it was initially thought that was a reason for the attacks, or the Arab Spring. Those are the “talking points” this article talks about people like you are ticked about.

        The closest force available, by asking around, and what is available publicly, was a Marine FAST Team, that was 45 minutes by air out. The Generals in command grounded them, Not Obama or Hillary. It would have taken about 30 minutes to scramble any team, gear up, make sure the helo’s were ready, etc. The 2 attacks happened within 3 hours, involved hundreds, if not a few thousand people, and then was over, almost like a riot that involved ak’s and mortars. What is a 12 person FAST Team supposed to do against those odds? Seriously? Even 30? I was an 0311 (never saw combat myself), and we like 4-1 odds when we went into a fight, and even though we usually faced 1-4 or more odds in each of our battles in history, how would fast roping into a compound while taking fire and then fighting that many people have been justified? We got lucky only 4 people died.
        Libyans on the ground that are our allies have said it happened so fast almost nothing could be done by anyone, and it dissipated just as fast. So what is the problem? I mean, we cannot be in Every corner of the Earth at All times!

      • waltinseattle

        because “intrrests, other than obamma had them stsnd down. its been explained by the stand down guys!

      • nd47

        not to mention the republicans cut embassy protection and refuse several request for more funding for such protection…..

      • Shinjo Dun

        You’re aware that the House Republicans have said that there was no cover up involving Benghazi, correct?

        Literally every scandal that’s happened during the Obama administration has been a continuation of a Bush program (domestic surveillance, gun running) or found to be nothing wrong by the administration (Benghazi, IRS). In some cases, the outrage was because the group was doing what it should be doing (IRS).

        I’ve got to wonder if you were old enough, would you have had the same rage at the Marine barracks bombing in Beruit? 299 people died there, including 241 Americans.

      • RiverMikeRat

        You mean that Marine barracks bombing where Saint Ronnie denied them ammo for their weapons? That one?

      • monkeypuzzle

        Hillary did cover it up.

      • Shinjo Dun

        Except that there’s been 0 evidence to show that, and 7 different Congressional investigations cleared her.

      • monkeypuzzle

        I’m not trying to whine,but she was not truthful to you or me and the American folks…..I’m all for a woman prez but just not her. So you still believe it was because of a YouTube video?

      • Shinjo Dun

        Well, per the NY Times, Ahmed Abu Khattala, who is believed to be behind the initial attack, stated the video was part of his motivation according to witnesses.

        “As the attack in Benghazi was unfolding a few hours later, Mr. Abu Khattala told fellow Islamist fighters and others that the assault was retaliation for the same insulting video, according to people who heard him.

        http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/18/world/middleeast/apprehension-of-ahmed-abu-khattala-may-begin-to-answer-questions-on-assault.html?hp&_r=3

        So if the person believe to be behind the attack stated it was part of his motivation, why do you think it wasn’t at least part of his motivation?

      • monkeypuzzle

        NY Times??? I understand now.

      • Just Wondrin

        So you know more than investigators who had the evidence? Let’s see it.

      • monkeypuzzle

        “What difference does it make”??? You can believe whAt you want, no worries here. WHITE POWER!!!

      • nd47

        it was on TV as it happened–where were you?

      • monkeypuzzle

        Montana probably. Where were you?

      • forpeace

        Fake “Army Wife” aka “Invisible” poster, or maybe you are Darrel Issa.

        I’m sure you were (NOT) outraged by all those 14 Attacks on U.S. Embassies and Diplomatic Facilities from 2000-2008 during George W Bush and Dick Cheney administration, and the 1983 suicide Bombing at U.S. Embassy in Beirut Lebanon during Ronald Reagan administration.

        May 2014 – House Republicans Owe Taxpayers $14+ Million For Benghazi Investigations. I’m sure neither YOU, nor any of the GOTP even care about Benghazi, they are just cashing in on Benghazi, just like Darrell Issa who has been and still is cashing on Both IRS and Benghazi, and Trey Gowdy is doing the same thing.

        Just because you keep using “F” word so many times in your comment, that doesn’t justify your fake anger.

      • TaxPaying American Voter

        She did. Next….how about the THOUSANDS Bush Killed. He F*CKED UP! Have the Republicans admit they dropped the ball! Have the APOLOGIZE. THIS sounds at least reasonable when I say it. No life is worth losing, but Hilary did not see this coming. Bush MADE this happen. See your BLIND hypocricy. Probably not.

      • ConcernedCitizen15

        Amy wife, is your husband gone? You seem obsessed with the idea of F*CKING. Maybe you just aren’t getting any.

      • MrLightRail

        How many died under Bush’s watch? No witch hunt there, oh, no!

      • waltinseattle

        no one wants to out the gunrunning from benghazi cept robert, “tosh” plumlee, who knows the supposed scandal is barely the surface!

      • Colleen A Shea

        I am thinking either you cannot read or have chosen not to read the Benghazi report your own party released. That, the random caps, expletives, & punctuation suggest you need your meds adjusted.

      • regressive whitetrash GOP scum

        shall we start with the ARMY WIVES who did NOT have their husbands come home from GW BUSH lie-based war (IRAQ)???

      • RiverMikeRat

        No, she didn’t and no, they didn’t. Hillary and the President asked Congress repeatedly for more money for security in Benghazi. They were refused-“Can’t afford it.”

      • Just Wondrin

        So YOU know more than investigators who relentlessly tried to stick Hillary with blame for Benghazi – at a cost of over $6.8 million – who found nothing to blame her for. Where’s your proof?
        Where’s your blame for the video that was partly the reason for the violence? (Yes, Ahmed Abu Khatallah, the suspect captured by U.S. special forces for his role in the 2012 Benghazi attack, reportedly said he was motivated in part by the anti-Islam online video made in America). Or for that matter, when are you going to place blame on the people that actually did it? How about blaming the GOP legislature that cut funding for US embassies?
        And further, how is Hillary to blame at all? She didn’t command the military.
        Where was your outrage for the 13 embassy attacks, with more than 50 killed under Bush? For that matter, 9/11, after Bush was so dismissive of reports of an impending attack?

      • nd47
      • nd47
    • RiverMikeRat

      Ray-Gun basically said AIDS was because of homosexuals and thus, he didn’t care.

  • Dane

    Great article, and exactly true, my other thing I like to add, is to ask conservatives to name one thing republicans have done to make the lives of working people better, they cannot name one”

  • Beary

    Allen , you are normally a good read. However meeting out blame and accolades to Presidents who HAPPEN TO BE IN OFFICE when things like job additions happen in an economy is naïve . The ramifications of government policy start late and last a long time . That said intervening by beaurocrats is often PERVERSE. Managing an economy from above works predicably and terribly .

    • Then WHY is a GOP talking point “JOBS JOBS JOBS”?

      • karensc

        Yes, and why are we getting “NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING” from them but rhetoric that means squat!

  • Stephen Barlow

    I believe that 4-7% of the most Racist poor REDS will jump ship and vote BLUE with a WHITE DEm on the ballot in 2016.

    But none of the RED Rubbish has come true.

    • Avatar

      I don’t think it will happens. But I already predicted that Dems will take the House and re-take the Senate in 2016 while retain the White House. Duo of Warren/Sanders will guarantee that to happens and one big problem, DNC isn’t interested in them. They are attempting to shove down our throat with pro-wall st. democrat, Hillary Clinton.

  • Marshall Weaver

    To the female republicans, do you even read a paper? watch the news? Your own party treats you like a second class citizen. WTFU!

  • Dr. Dee

    The entire economic position of the GOP is based on a strong desire of its base to pay as little taxes as possible. The GOP gives people big tax cuts and that’s one of the main reasons people vote for the GOP.

    • karensc

      The only thing is, the people actually benefiting from those tax cuts are not the conservatives this article is talking about. Rich fat cats getting richer from the GOP tax cuts is not helping the minimum wage Republican who is voting against his own best interests.

  • John

    “Uh, um, you see, it’s … shut up, commie! ‘MURIKA!” — any right-winger

  • rossbro

    Repubs have done NOTHING but block progress for this Country since the ‘ Black Man’ got elected. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

    • RiverMikeRat

      Since before.

  • forpeace

    To be fair, GOTPers have been doing so many things for this country and their voters that is costing American taxpayers a lot of money including:

    — 50+ times repealing ACA (Obamacare).
    — Shutting down the government in 2013 that cost American taxpayers
    24+ billion so Ted Cruz could built his own “Fundraising Lists.”
    — Multiple fake hearings and investigations on IRS and Benghazi while cashing in on those investigations.
    — Making multiple unconstitutional laws in regards to abortion.
    — Making multiple unconstitutional laws in regards to Voter ID.
    — Multiple fake filibusters.

    I’m sure there are more.

  • The Reader

    If you commenters believe what you say, you will be voting on November 4th, right? My biggest fear is that with all the people who comment on a daily basis, they may think that is enough and not go stand in line to vote. We have to vote and get the “bass turds” out! It’s still our biggest weapon.

  • Fred Felix

    It’s the battered wife syndrome; the girlfriend hoping to change the abusive boyfriend. These people stay with the control freak party because they lack self worth.

    • MB

      Lack self worth, or lack brain capacity and insight?

      • RiverMikeRat

        Yes.

  • Stephen Barlow

    Another thing the GOP provides is a cover. GReed is ugly, even with brand new boobs driving a Bentley. And NOTHING is more disgusting that racism. I mean pure, unadulterated RACISM is just plain ugly. But if you dress it up, surround it with seemingly debutante trophy wives, and call it new names, like Austerity or “a strong Work Ethic”. then wrap it in a respectable cause like making racist voter suppression out to be a crusade against “massive voter fraud”.

    Then it doesn’t seem so bad. Kinda makesy ou wonder how many “in name only” marriages these GOPers have, where the wife is a beard for her RICH, in the closet old hubby who likes young boys. WHY else put on the HUGE GAY HATE, GOD WILL SMITE THE HOMOs show if you were just covering up Erectile Dysfunction?

    • christianh

      I just mentioned that racism is immorality’s uglier cousin on Facebook…

      • Stephen Barlow

        Thanks!

  • Claire L Swinford

    What the Republican’s have done is actually pretty brilliant – condescending and arguably evil, but brilliant. They convinced run of the mill yokels that they were special, that their random opinions were just as good, neigh better, than those of the highly educated. They not only reached the lowest common denominator, they put them on a pedestal and made them believe they were better, smarter, and more American than those “over educated liberal fools from the city.”

    Any grifter worth their salt will tell you that making your mark feel special, important, needed, is the key to running a good swindle. In the GOP we are watching one of the best played shell games of all time.

    • Guest2

      That is so perfectly stated. Add a spoonful of encouraging racism, and you’ve got the Republican Recipe.

      • RiverMikeRat

        A spoonful? You mean a ladle-ful, right?

    • I love Rush Limbaugh

      Best written statement of the situation I’ve ever read.

    • Jamie Quinones

      Well put.

  • David May

    Wow. I’ve never read someone so less informed until I came across these comments from half wits. This answers the question of what’s wrong with America today.

    • Avatar

      That is why Reich, Buffet, and Chomsky said they are worried about America and doesn’t think it will survive within 20 years if it’s citizens allow the trickle down economy and fear of non Americans continues. Our non stop bombing of Middle East and Muslim-dominated countries are creating two to six generations of people to hate us real bad. America gone, so will Israel.

  • metanosis

    Silly article….BO has been a disaster, a constitution destroying plague,
    the Dems have been out of ideas for decades, it is quite obvious they are terrified
    of the economy taking off, and their captive voters becoming independent, productive members of society, thus the push for more and greater give aways to keep folks, especially low income folks who NEED JOBS, on the dole with a little somethin somethin from the elite, mansion inhabiting leaders of the “workin man’s”party…what a load of bull….safety net…yes of course…..reasonable regulation of business….certainly…..but this is definitely NOT what’s afoot in the Dem strategy…..it’s patently obvious the illegal immigration scam is a play for more voters…forget the law….this is politics….now the only thing right from the article, is the Republican party is also a DC elite entity, possibly not as corrupt as the Dems…..but certainly not much better…..it’s all about money and power…..
    always has been…..only difference is the people in power now have fewer scruples, and more ways to manipulate a public less and less able to think critically….totalitarianism beckons….be careful what you wish for…many,many German’s regretted their support of Hitler, same for Russians and the Communist party…remember, once in power, totalitarians surround themselves with a very few yes men…the rest follow orders or end up in a concentration camp or gulag…..

    • Jaguar67

      My God, how many Limbaugh cliches can you post in one box? Have the corporations fared so badly under Obama? Has Obama come to take your guns away? WHERE ARE THE REPUBLICAN IDEAS? Last I checked, every idea stemming from the Grand Old Party deals with reducing taxes on the top 2 percent (still believing that old “trickle down” myth), igniting more needless trillion dollar wars in the Middle East, eliminating the Middle Class, eliminating Social Security, and slashing funding for every Government entity created to protect our food supply, our environment, worker rights, improve public schools, emergency response services, and improve our infrastructure, while pouring more funding into the Military Industrial Complex.

      Your side’s answer to improving the infrastructure and creating jobs? “Keystone Pipeline, wah wah wah.”

      And your post became even more outrageous when you claimed the Dems are more corrupt than the Republicans. Take a look at the current and former Governors of Wisconsin, Virginia, Texas, New Jersey, Kansas and South Carolina, and then get back to us.

      Or better yet, take your bullshit delusions over to Twitchy, Downtrend or Daily Caller, where they belong.

      • Avatar

        No counter argument from this fearful commenter. Of course.

    • Avatar

      Fear fear fear, be fucking fearful and paranoid because if you’re not, Obama will send you to gulag or worse, Gitmo! Keep listening to Rush, Hannity, Beck, Pat Robertson’s radioes on full volume and you’ll be safe! Bring your Pom Pom to Rush’s office and cheer him on! Go, Rush, Go!

    • karensc

      Blah, blah, blah! More moronic talking points from a right wing troll.

  • Jaguar67

    Spot on article.

  • Avatar

    True. I know this bloke who are always broke and working minimum wage job, yet he owns handful of semi autos, hunting rifles, and one big long-ass barrel sniper rifle. Oh, he’s in his late 30’s and still living in basement of his parents’ house.

  • Leaning Blue

    The answer is not a damn thing! and by the way, on the issue of abortion, I personally know a few hypocrites who rail on abortion, voted for republicans because of abortion, but when their own daughters got pregnant the first solution for them was abortion. Funny how that works huh? Yet, liberals have allowed conservatives to further the narrative that liberals are “baby killers” while conservatives are “pro-life” and that is absolutely not true! In my personal experience, most pro-choice people I know have never considered having an abortion, but would also not consider making such a deeply personal decision for someone else. In other words, they don’t want to FORCE their beliefs on others, like conservatives love to do. I’m not too happy with the democratic party either. They run from PBO’s record instead of owning it and THAT is a big turn off. If a republican president had accomplished what PBO has the republicans would be shouting from the roof-tops, but what do dems do? They won’t even say who they voted for. Bunch of cowards!

  • Debi Graeber

    These types of discussions are the ones that upset me the most. Okay so the Republican Party may not do much for the conservative, but what has the Democratic Party done for anyone lately? THis state needs to stop looking along party lines and start looking at a person who is really going to do something to improve the status of this state. If you want to call ugly against republicans how about both democratic and republican governors have ended up in prison. Ryan a republican from Chicago and Blagovich a democrate from Chicago. It is not the political party that is to blame for the state of this state it is the men and women we elect into office. It is time to stop voting for a political party and start voting for people who truly care about ALL of the residents in this state.

  • Eleanor Boening

    Can any of you honestly say your life has gotten better in the last 6 years? I have not had a raise in 6 years. My health insurance payments and deductibles have gone way up. Food prices are skyrocketing. What the hell is better since Obama got in that affects you personally? Don’t talk about talking points from politicians… talk about your own life and how what has gotten better.

    • Nicholas A Kocal

      And why aren’t you getting a raise. Oh wait, republicans think that you should be paid less than a man. They are also against raising the minimum wage (which keeps other wages down). Allowing the CEO to pay a lower top marginal tax rate than 50% takes away any incentive that they would have in re-investing in there own company. This leads to the shrinking of the middle class that means less disposable income which means smaller businesses have less customers and make less money.

      All of these things the democrats have been trying to change but the republicans have been blocking.

  • Erin Anderson

    Both Republicans and Democrats are worthless. Under both parties the size of government grows, the national debt grows, the warmongering in the middle east grows, Fascism grows, Communism grows and the economy declines. Both parties are worthless that’s why our country needs to elect a true conservative into office like Ron Paul.

  • Erin Anderson

    Once of the major problems with our country is voters are looking for government to help them, instead of them helping themselves.

  • Gerald Hinton

    Republican’s agenda is to divide and conquer ordinary citizens by fanning flames of racism and fear so that nothing gets done. That’s the easiest strategy to do to protect the wealthiest 1 percenter’s interest which maintains the Bush era policies that the wealthiest1 percenters cherish.

  • diamondmask

    All I’ve seen, both from the front line regressives, to my friends that are regressives, it’s just this blind, unthinking, hatred of everything liberal. Not just Obama, but everything liberal. They of course don’t do any delving into history to discover just who it was that brought them their standard of living today. They are more consumed with hatred for people that are less fortunate than them, even though they may be in the same income level of those they hate, while at the same time accepting food stamps and other “hand outs” that the government offers, just like those people hey call moochers.

    There is a disconnect with the republicans and reality, and they revel in it. They know it exists, and yet they double down on it and their base eats it up. It doesn’t matter to the base that the republicans are raping the nation and them every chance they get, they get to revel in their hatred of everything that isn’t just like them.

    I don’t know how you counteract that. It’s like mass hysteria, and no amount of facts will turn that tide. Unfortunately, the only thing I can see making things better is letting the republicans run things for a cycle, and when things get so bad that even their sycophants are having a hard time putting food on the table or drinking their “water”, then maybe things will change, but the damage they can do in a very short amount of time can be astounding. Look what bush did to this nation in a short 8 years. Bankrupted, us, had 5000 service personnel killed, and put us in such debt with two unpaid for wars that we will feel the effects for decades to come.

    But none of this matters to the regressives, or the Tea Party who is so beyond regressive as to be their own entity. It’s the hate and the fear they feed on. How do you counteract that type of hysteria? Not to mention the paranoia and the belief that God gave us everything and is everything and will always be everything. It’s just simple insanity, and we aren’t able to commit them to hospitals. I’m at a loss.

  • blackliberationwithsanity

    Obama has done more to keep this country safe during his six years in Oval Office by killing Osama Bin Laden.. Another this administration deserves credit for making America less reliance on foreign oil..

  • Robert Kauffman

    “And I’m sorry, but if you can’t hit a target with 10 bullets, you shouldn’t be operating a gun in the first place. ” Police say they are lucky if 20% of their shots hit the suspect in real shooting situations. That’s 2 bullets. I’ve been taught it takes 2 shots to center mass to stop 1 attacker with a pistol, it’s not like the movies. If there are 2 attackers I guess I’m fucked.

  • Robert Kauffman

    “So don’t give me this crap about taxes or regulations.” Let’s take a look at real jobs. Full time with benefits jobs. Not temporary with low pay jobs. Then tell me they aren’t killing the middle class.

  • Robert Kauffman

    “are gun rights really an issue on which you want to support an entire political party?” Yes, damn straight, you stupid asshole. Look at the Nazi Germany and get back to me on how well that worked out for millions of people.

    • Widukind

      Before the nazis took power, they (or rather their armed wing, the SA) were just one of the many militias in Germany. There were plenty others: the Red Army, the Reichsbanner, the Stahlhelm, just to name the most influential. All consisted of WW1 veterans and had plenty arms and munition, working to protect their own peers and organizations. Occassionally, there were open fights in the streets and coup attemps.

      The nazis won this violent struggle through ruthlessness, deceit, and the deep pockets of their sponsors (the army and big corporations).

      With other words: The nazis did not gain power by abusing gun control laws in Germany, as there were no effective gun control laws at that time. The nazis gained power by ruthlessly defeating an equally well armed opposition. In 1933, all possible armed opponents had already been either crushed or absorbed.

  • Robert Kauffman

    “Republicans really tried to fix our broken health care system, right? Isn’t it amazing how suddenly “Obamacare” is some social radical idea, yet it was a Republican idea in the 90′s?” That was Nixon you idiot, and even Ted Kennedy said they only opposed it because it was a Republican idea and he later came to regret it.

  • Robert Kauffman

    “Saved the American auto industry?” If GM had been allowed to go through an orderly bankruptcy they would be still in business and stronger and not still owe taxpayers billions of dollars that will never be paid back and our local dealerships would still be in business and all those jobs would still exist.

  • Ducsoop17

    One of the memorable lines from Aaron Sorkin’s “The American President” was “Bob Rumson (the Republican presidential candidate) is not the slightest bit interested in your problem. Bob wants to tell you what to be afraid of and who to blame for it.”
    Sound familiar? Keep in mind that the film came out about 20 years ago. Republicans are a one trick pony.

  • bobby dickey

    Sadly,it has come down to many of the people (especially in the south), simply do not want to be affiliated with a party that is as diverse as the Democratic party. They look at the Democratic party as a party of mostly blacks as well as other minorities,whereas,they look at the Republicans and they can “relate,”mainly because of the color of their skins.What a sad testimony to these people who are so full of hate and bigotry, that they are blind to see the real issues and the differences between the 2 parties….”cut off your nose to spite your face”

  • Angela Monger

    Well this is a pretty correct observation but for some people who are control freaks, the GOP has given them that. Let’s face it. Most people are little shits, they have no actual control or power, so they seek it anyway they can get it. Even if it’s really unimportant. If they can control the life of one person, gay or female, it’s worth it to them. They want power so bad they can taste it and if this is the only way they can wield power, they’ll willing starve their own children just so they can screw someone else over.

  • Larry Dague

    They needed to get someone who looks like a backwoods rube..this guy has a tea shirt tan and pristeen white arms….up there on the mountain there is no way he looks like that just because he has a shotgun and overalls lol..I bet if he smiled he has wall street teeth lol

  • What a crock! Obama has created no jobs at all, they are created by the private sector, not government. The 10 million jobs spoken of are actually lower paying jobs for people returning to the work force after being laid off; and it does not take into account the 9 million unemployed who have given up looking and are off the labor rolls entirely. The Democrat-damaged economy still sucks big time. Obamacare did much to convert full time jobs into part time jobs, and otherwise retard job growth by this onerous burden on businesses; and yes, health insurance premiums for the average American family did increase substantially. Further, a high penalty was paid by those who couldn’t afford any health care insurance, with the filing of their 2014 tax returns, and the penalty is scheduled to increase next year. Then there’s Obama’s flooding the country with undocumented Democrats from Mexico and Central America, further eroding wages for American workers. Under Obama, the national debt has doubled and may eventually bankrupt the country. Does he care? Do Democrats care? No they do not. As for race relations, they are worse than ever before under Barack Obama. Voting in another far-left candidate like Hillary Clinton will likely make matters even worse. The Democrats give you only deeper levels of federal government interference in the economy, higher taxes, more expensive health care, higher prices at the pump due to their anti-energy policies, fewer jobs as businesses close their doors, and less security in a hostile world as Obama slowly dismantles the military and reduces our readiness to confront ISIS, Putin, Iran, China and North Korea, if such a need becomes necessary. Voting for Democrats is voting for fewer jobs, less opportunity, a lower standard of living, and less security from the world’s despots and tyrants. But go ahead, knock yourself out.

  • SteveKJR

    So I have to ask what has the Republican Party done to you to keep you from being successful and wealthy? I do know the Democratic Party loves to enbold people to depend on the government.

  • Susan Shepherd

    It is the same thing over and over again.
    conservatives (Equals most Republicans) are all for “get the government
    off your back and out of your wallet,” right up until the nano-second that
    it personally offends them. Then they want to tax it regulate or outlaw
    it.

    IE:

    -The Affordable Care Act (Obama Care) Their argument
    is the government is getting between you and your doctor which boils down to “I got mine, screw you.” Because the insurance industry has
    been doing it for years and far more ruthlessly. Especially in light of….

    -And almost in the same breath about the government
    getting between patients and their doctor, they have no reservations about
    interjecting the government between women and their doctors about choice.

    -And if conservatives are so obsessed about
    protecting the human lives of “unborn children,” how about lives of living children. Abandoned babies in the hospitals of just about every metropolitan area because they are drug addicted, AIDS infected or were born with severe deformities.

    Or the 40% of LGBT youth that are homeless solely because they are LGBT and were kicked out/disowned. Or the 50% of LGBT youth that are dead by age of thirty, either because of murder or suicide, again solely because they are LGBT.

    -Or Terri Schiavo the Florida woman in 2005 who went
    into a coma and became brain dead. Her husband wanted let her pass because there was no hope of recovery and brain scans showed that half her brain was just gone (The subsequent autopsy showed her brain had turned a liquefied mush of dead brain matter) But every major Republican
    from Bush 43 through every major congressional Republican turned an internal family issue (that every court that heard that said this was a personal issue between the husband and Terry’s doctors) into a three ring circus.

    The examples go and on, and on, and on.

  • tgiordan

    What has the Democratic Party done for blacks who live in Detroit, Baltimore, Chicago or other large cities? What has the Democratic Party done to improve race relations? How is the world better after eight years of Obama appeasement?

    • BJ

      Have you even been in any of the three cities mentioned, or studied the history of the past 50 year? You sound like someone who isn’t well travelled and gets all your “knowledge” by looking at google searches and propaganda. Baltimore is in a renaissance of sorts, cleaner and better than its been in years. Detroit’s downtown is in a resurgence, it was hallowed out years ago. Chicago has a problem with gang violence, but again it is a world class city that is doing well economically. What is your solution, to make America’s hard assed law even more tough? Why don’t you apply two death penalties for every murder, that conservative approach will solve everything, won’t it?!? Lol I doubt you’ve been in any of the three mentioned cities. Capitalism abandoned Detroit, it was not and never has been a government town. The leaders in these cities have done the best they have with resources that they have.

      • tgiordan

        I noticed that, in your ad hominem attack on me in which you presume to read my mind, you didn’t answer my question . I didn’t ask about the revitalized areas of those cities (all of which I have visited). To clarify, what has the Democratic Party, done to improve the lives of blacks who do not live in the revitalized areas?

  • BJ

    That guy in the picture should come to my place and take his clothes off. Sexy.

  • lindylou

    Just for fun click on the avatars of the “conservative” commenters. It appears they all joined Facebook in 2009 or 2015. Perhaps those were banner years for Moldavian teenagers to enter the hijack your email identity job market or something. They are all trolls with nothing of substance to offer. Most cite “attended east whoop ass high” or the “school of hard knocks”. They are mostly “self employed”. It’s not worthwhile to try to reason with them. I notice that one recurring troll is gone now after I pointed out the same picture was attached to several names. Incidentally I also noticed the same brunette skank’s picture in quite a few personal pages and the cars? I can go down to the marina and have my picture taken in front of a yacht; that doesn’t mean it’s mine.