This Is Why Hillary Clinton Needs Bernie Sanders To Run For President

bernie-sanders-4If Hillary Clinton is the Democratic Party’s nominee in 2016, I will vote for her. With that in mind, I still want to see her face a couple of challengers in the primaries, and it’s not just because I’m uncomfortable with her simply being handed the nomination by default. Now, a lot of people are saying that we should just get behind her and look ahead to the 2016 general election, but that’s not only rather arrogant, in my opinion it’s also dangerous as well.


Now before you go grabbing your pitchforks and launching into all caps condemnations based off the headline alone, hear me out. Think of it this way: If you were hiring someone to work for you, would you give the job to the first person who showed up, just because they have pretty good credentials? Hillary Clinton is very qualified to be president, certainly more than anyone the Republicans have come up with so far, but that doesn’t mean we should just anoint her simply because she would be the first female president – or because she was runner-up to President Obama in 2008.

David Corn over at Mother Jones had this to say about Hillary Clinton and a primary opponent in his article this morning titled “Why Hillary Clinton Needs Martin O’Malley to Run for President”:

Clinton’s rival need not be O’Malley. But the choices for this spot are limited. James Webb? Lincoln Chaffee? Bernie Sanders (who’s not a Democrat)? It may be tougher for any of them to engage her in a serious fight. O’Malley, too, is not likely to threaten her path toward that glass ceiling. But at the moment he seems the possible contender with the most oomph.

A primary battle—even a limited one—introduces risk into the equation. It’s not hard to imagine Clinton and her strategists yearning for less uncertainty than more. (What if O’Malleymentum takes off?) And the Clintonites may not have a say in whether O’Malley enters the ring. Yet a primary fight that makes Clinton earn—not inherit—the nomination would cast her in a different role. She’d be a fighter, not a dynastic queen. The press and the public would have something to ponder beyond just Clinton herself. And all politics are relative; candidates usually look better when compared to another candidate rather than to a nonexistent ideal or even themselves. So perhaps Team Hillary should welcome the upstart Marylander into the contest. A slam dunk is more impressive when waged against a competitor, and even the Harlem Globetrotters needed the Washington Generals. (Source)

I like Martin O’Malley and I agree with David Corn that she needs a challenger, but I want Bernie Sanders to run against Hillary Clinton – and that’s not just because he’s my preferred candidate. Many people have pointed out (and rightly so) that she’s too friendly with Wall Street, and that is a big turn off to progressives who would likely prefer Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren, despite the fact she’s repeatedly stated that she has no plans to run in 2016.


For Hillary Clinton to run unopposed is dangerous for two reasons. First of all, it allows Republicans to focus solely on her and every one of their primary contenders would be running against her, rather than against each other, allowing the eventual GOP nominee to head into the elections almost completely unscathed. Second, competition is a good thing, not a bad thing. As David Corn said, “A slam dunk is more impressive when waged against a competitor.” If Bernie Sanders can push her to the left in the primaries, then get behind her in the general election, it will be a lot more convincing to progressive voters who may be apprehensive about voting for her now.

Martin O’Malley is a competitor, but he’s not the same as Bernie Sanders who is loved and admired by both Democrats and many independents like myself. Bernie Sanders is also a real independent and the longest serving independent member of Congress in United States history, not just someone who claims the title but runs on a party ticket anyhow. (I’m lookin’ at you, Senator Rand Paul.)

If Hillary Clinton ends up being the Democratic Party’s nominee, that’s fine and I’ll be sure to vote for her – but she still needs to earn it.




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  • Creeayshun Sighuntist

    I agree that Hillary will be a formidable opponent for anyone from the clown car on the right but it couldn’t hurt to shore up her left flank a bit.

    • Frank DiChutney

      Libs want someone even older than Hillary to run along for the show to make her look less ancient and haggard, but that’s just putting lipstick on a pig, to borrow a colloquialism from Barack Obama.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        Still not as old as McCain, Romney or Raygun. Try again dunce.
        BTW, that was your dunce Palin who coined that phrase at the political level. Real brilliant one there that you are quoting…

      • Frank DiChutney

        Wrong on Romney. He was 64 when he ran. Hillary is now 67. Dems said both Reagan and McCain were too old to run for President. Made a big deal out of both their ages.

        You’re wrong once again, something a simple Google search could’ve told you. Palin joked about the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull was lipstick. Obama then said “You know, you can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig.”

        You sir, are a moron.

      • Guitar Slinger

        You, sir, are a ‘bagger.

      • Frank DiChutney

        And you’re a Hillary drone.

      • Jim Bean

        Agreed. You can always tell them apart from liberals because of their determination to stick to linear, critical thinking and their inability to see the ‘bigger picture.’

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        oh that’s right, Romeny was the “young” french republican….64 …..lol….after a while you start to take for granted that all GOP cand are 75 and older….

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        Hey Jackson, how is your two day old profile treating you now? Is it time to rename yourself yet?

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        btw, I sure do love you clowns that idolized Palin. Please thank her for helping President Obama win the last two elections. And please encourage her to run again! We could have done it without her, but certainly do appreciate the assist

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        That’s right. Baggers were all up in arms and crying because they thought President Obama was referring to her as the pig with lipstick on it….that droned on for quite a while, just like you Frank

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        Actually, McCain used the term ‘lipstick on a pig” in Oct 2007 when referring tto Hillary’s healthcare, but hey…..

        You clown, are still a clown.

        Maybe you could use your internets and do a quick study and report back to us all on the history. It undoubtedly had to start with some bagger somewhere….

      • Frank DiChutney

        When shown to be wrong you double down on the stupid. It’s what liberals do. It’s who they are.

        Authoritarian drones.

        You’re like a star-struck teenager in love with Hillary the class president. Even here, you fantasize about her flanks.

        Weirdo.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        Hahaa…authoritarian? yeah ok…. google is still is your friend…lol
        Why are you here? You are just a troll looking for attention. What is wrong with you? Were you beaten up as child and just lashing out whoever? I guess better for you to lash out here than shooting up a school.

      • Frank DiChutney

        Why are you here?

        To preach to fellow drones?

        Seriously, it’s not to discuss progressive ideals, because you haven’t even attempted to do that once.

        You’re a phony, CS.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        again, clowns like you aren’t here for the discussion of anything. What is the point in having a discussion with a clown troll who constantly changes identities because he/she gets banned from sites? You are here solely to whine and complain about people who right wing hacks tell you to whine and complain about.

      • Jim Bean

        At least she wasn’t sucking on some infants pacifier.

      • BobJThompson

        Liberals don’t want Bernie to run because of Hillary. I want him to run because he actually has ideas I agree with on how to run this country. Unlike Hillary.

        Rand Paul is the only one I see on the right that is any bit different than the rest of the field. And he’s not exactly a good candidate. Libertarianism = doubling down on right wing economics with concessions for pot heads.

    • Jim Bean

      Both her flanks are already shored up enough. She’s running on estrogen, not qualifications, so it shouldn’t really matter.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        Jim, you think michelle bachmann and sarah palin are qualified…..nobody takes you seriously in the least.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        So since you have such a disdain for women, what do you think Palin was running on? What were her GOP credentials again? Unfortunately for America, she was the most qualified bagger in the lot…..

  • CanisRattusImperator

    Hillary needs to check into a nice, quiet nursing home where she can eat rice pudding and watch Matlock with the other old ladies her age.

    • Creeayshun Sighuntist

      You can start referring to her as Mrs President. Start get used to it now because your head may explode when in does happen.

      • CanisRattusImperator

        Well, if it hasn’t exploded after the last two elections I think I will be fine. Thanks for your concern. In the meantime, someone needs to get Granny a shawl and a nice cup of tea.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        is this the new attack? Age? Funny how quickly GOPbaggers turn on more mature people when it suits the narrative of the week.

      • CanisRattusImperator

        No,no…I CARE for the elderly! The poor dear should be able to retire. Unfortunately, due to the misguided policies of that young whippersnapper Obama, she is forced to seal a new job at 67 years old!

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        you should have been shrieking at McCain in ’08 then. Were you?

      • CanisRattusImperator

        Never a fan of McCain. Sacrificed a lot for his country, did his bit, but by the time he ran I’m afraid his gourd was a little scrambled.

      • Patricia P. Tursi

        He and Bernie passed Vet legislation together

      • Randy Nichols

        Can you pleas rephrase that into something somewhat coherent please? That does not make a bit of sense.

      • Randy Nichols

        Any other lady that age showing signs of dementia the left would be wanting to give her a pain pill or two and have her wait to die. Or most likely they would just go ahead and euthanize her.

      • Randy Nichols

        Hillary has accepted millions from foreign governments, and used her position as secretary of state to solicit money. That is why she set up private email server and will not release her emails. That has nothing to do with age.. she is just a bad person, has always been.

      • Patricia P. Tursi

        As an 80 y/o who campaigned for Bernie and who has fought injustice all my life, I appreciate your defense against prejudice.

      • Patricia P. Tursi

        More ageist comments…when she is 7 years younger than Bernie? Want to make a ageist comment about Bernie? What trash.

      • strayaway

        Gosh, we can have our own Eva Perón or Cristina Kirchner. They qualified by being a presidential wife too.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        Are these really the false equivalencies the right wing rag sites and Rush are getting you riled up about today? Pretty weak…

      • strayaway

        You are losing it. Try to stay on topic instead of flailing. This thread is about Hillary needing Bernie Sanders.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        uhhh…you are the one bringing up the wife of an Argentinian president and you want me to stay on topic about Bernie and Hillary….ok wow.

      • strayaway

        good point! I promise to not bring up other presidential wives riding their husband’s coattails again in this thread.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        glad that we agree that you are way off topic here. See, we do agree on something.

      • strayaway

        It must be the dawning of the Age of Aquarius.

      • Patricia P. Tursi

        I liked your comment! Shows knowledge rather than name calling.

      • Patricia P. Tursi

        It was referring to Hillary…still on topic.

      • The Klandidate

        You are new to this….this thread is a year old.

      • Randy Nichols

        What creeasyshun is going through is called Liberal Mania… it happens whenever they are presented with facts… it put them into an irrational state.

      • strayaway

        I stumbled onto some new facts pertinent to this article. Before running for President, Hillary had been promoting the fast tracking of the TPP. Meanwhile, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren have been fighting the fast tracking of the TPP.

      • Patricia P. Tursi

        She still supports TPP. She lies lies lies.

      • Randy Nichols

        Like most leftest politicians, her policies will hurt you the most. They have your vote and undying loyalty so they will not do anything for you. They will take care of the people with money while convincing the indoctrinated like you that they have your best interest. Obama had two years, with democrat controlled congress what did he do for you.. No minimum wage hike, which I know is your big deal, and in fact all but the top 1% have had reduction in median income since he was elected. So what did he do for you?

      • Patricia P. Tursi

        So you support regime changes where elected governments, usually people supportive, are replaced by fascist governments who are pro corporations? Syrian refugee crisis was directly related to HRC’s war on Libya (she laughed at Qaddafi’s death when he was killed by being sodomized with a sword then ISIS took over Libya). Hillary was responsible for many governments falling…check out the Maldives. http://www.thenation.com/article/chronicle-of-a-honduran-assassination-foretold/ Just before her murder, beloved around the world environmentialist, Berta Caceres blamed HRC for the indigenous people losing their lives and their land in Honduras.

      • The Klandidate

        What are you rambling on about here….seriously….do you really want tRump to be your next President? Really? Good luck with that….

    • FD Brian

      says the guy who probably voted for McCain

    • Patricia P. Tursi

      I beg your pardon. I am 80, marched in the civil right marches and fought against the Viet Nam War, for the Women’s Movement, for organic agriculture and against Monsanto and other issues. Your expression of age prejudice is disgusting. I also have campaigned for Bernie. There are a lot of issues to criticize her for without contributing to prejudices. In many cultures, age is respected. Grow up and get your tee hees some other way. Oh, yes, I also like Matlock.

  • Jim Bean

    Seems odd to me that someone would commit to voting for Hillary this early in the game.

    • Creeayshun Sighuntist

      Jimmy boy, you’ve already established that you have no concept of recent history, so please, just put your mom’s computer away for awhile and go to school now.

    • Flat Banana

      Liberals vote based off their eyes, they see a Clinton, a female and someone that resembles a celebrity in their minds. Yet she is going to spend over $2B on this campaign but people are suppose to think she is fiscally responsible to manage the US.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        Yeah, kind of like Palin….there was not a single reason for a voter anywhere to like her, but bagger men sure loved to look her. You are projecting….again.

      • Flat Banana

        Right im projecting, when you are constantly using the term bagger. You are talking about a very small portion of people who like her, not like the 2 million fake or inactive twitter followers Hillary has.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        yeah sure..

      • Flat Banana

        When someone can admit a fault during a conversation the topic can finally progress.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        you are right wing wannabe hack troll. Why in the world would anyone want to have a conversation with you? You aren’t here for polite discourse. Your mind is made up that everything Faux and right wing rag sites tell you is the truth and you come here, and presumably other left leaning sites, just to troll.

        In the words of Dick Cheney, Go “f” yourself.

      • Flat Banana

        The pot calling the kettle black.

      • Frank DiChutney

        CS claims to be here for want of good progressive conversation. Hasn’t said one word to a progressive. Hasn’t said one positive thing about Hillary.

        He’s a phony of the highest order. At least we can admit why we’re here. We know she’s a train wreck like he knows it, we’re just not drones like he is and afraid to admit it.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        That’s a great story and I love the way you tell it…..

  • BobJThompson

    What happens if Bernie runs against her and…wins?
    I don’t think I’ve seen one article pondering that. It’s always pushing the corporate shillary towards the left. I have yet to see anyone outside of the beltway/wall street loop that is full throat in support for Hillary. All I see are people talking about how the supreme court justices are set to retire and blah blah blah. That isn’t supporting a candidate. That’s fear of the republicans.

    • Jen

      Then we would be assured that we would have the best candidate going into the general election?

      • BobJThompson

        Exactly. In America coronations belong in proms only.

  • Frank DiChutney

    Creation Scientist in 2008: “I like McCain, but he’s too old to be president.”

    Creation Scientist in 2012: “Romney is ok, but he’s too rich to be President”

    Creation Scientist now: “I have to vote for Hillary even though she’s old and rich, because I’m a drone and a sheep. And because shut up that’s why.”

    • Creeayshun Sighuntist

      Frank DiChute mental gymnast

      2004: John Kerry Looks French and didn’t really serve in the Army
      2012: Mitt Romeny is so dreamy because he is fluent in French and lived in France during Vietnam and has a car elevator.

      2008: John McCain is a seasoned man and has a woman running mate. Yeah!
      2015: Hillary is just old and besides, she is a woman and don’t you know she has money to spend on a campaign.

      Frank’s hipocrisy knows no bounds, just like every other bagger.

      • Frank DiChutney

        Be difference between you and us is that unlike you, we know how to spell hypocrisy and we know what the word means.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        apparently you don’t know what it means because you keep stepping in it….sorry didn’t spell check for you in my rush. But don’t worry, you are still pretty. I can see you need the attention today.

      • Frank DiChutney

        You’re a moran, CS.

        A certifiable moran.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        happy 2nd birthday

      • harry

        Would that be moron? You moron!

      • Frank DiChutney

        When in Rome, harry.

        I had to spell it the only way he’d recognize the term.

  • strayaway

    Since 1989, Hillary’s top donors have been

    1. Citigroup $782,000

    2. Goldman Sachs $711,000

    3.DLA Piper $628,000

    4. JP Morgan Chase $612,000

    and here is a surprise…

    14. Rupert Murdoch’s 21st Century Fox, the parent company of Fox News, $300,000

    “By their friends you shall know them.”

    • Creeayshun Sighuntist

      who just gave Ted Cruz’ superpac $30 million? Take a wild guess…..

      if you guessed a right wing billionaire, you’d be correct. Next

      • strayaway

        Ted Cruz’s wife is a Goldman Sachs’ executive. It seems like Ted and Hillary have some things in common. How does that make Mrs. Clinton more appealing to you? Unfortunately. Ted doesn’t have as many generous friends in oil anti-women oil sheikdoms and Ukraine as Mrs. Clinton.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        31 million. One person. Go to Breitbart and whine about that for a while so you don’t appear to be such a hypocrite

      • strayaway

        Funny, you avoid all my questions such as how does Hillary’s friends list make her more appealing to you and switch the subject to other candidates and other contributors. Let’s stick with Mrs. Clinton here. What do you think of the $8.3M her foundation accepted from a Ukraine oligarch while still Secretary of State. I think it’s a blatant conflict of interest that disqualifies her.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        I’m not here whining about Hillary. you are. I am pointing out flaws in your “logic”.

      • strayaway

        You are ducking my questions by substituting off topic straw man arguments. Hillary’s list of friends is a good reason to run someone more ethical as a Democrat as the article suggests. Note that the article is about the Democratic primary rather than the general election.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        Ted Cruz is a strawman? Again, clean your own house first before coming here to whine about a Democratic candidate.

      • strayaway

        No, try to follow along. “Substituting off topic straw man arguments” on a thread about the Democratic primary constitutes substituting straw man arguments. Ted Cruz isn’t even running in the Democratic primary.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        you are worried about totals beginning in 1989 til now which don’t come near Ted Cruz’s one time donation from Bob Mercer. Again, spare me the fake outrage.

        And you are clearly a right wing wannabe hack who is just whining to whine while ignoring worse “infractions” by his/her own party of choice.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        She is going to need money to beat back the superpacs of the GOP. Unfortunately, the right wing Supreme Court turned our politics into a sport in which you need money to be a player. Go tell Alito/Scalia to relook or overturn Citizens United and then we can fix this.

      • strayaway

        Oh, ok, I guess its ok then to saddle up to megabanks, oligarchs, and Saudi billionaires. Obviously, Hillary wouldn’t consider their largess as president. I’m guessing though that e.g. Bernie Sanders hasn’t been as endowed. So to me, that would be one reason to support him, rather than Hillary in the primary. In the general election, however, your point might hold. After all, Jeb will probably show up dripping with as much copororate money as Hillary.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        And when was the last time you voted D during a presidential election? And I guess you totally dismissed all other GOP candidates for the exact thing…

      • strayaway

        Again, you are off topic but I’ll play along. I did vote for third party candidates in the last 6/8 elections because I dismissed Democratic and Republican candidates in those elections choosing not to give a mandate for the evil that was the lesser of two evils. Those six votes did include a vote for Ralph Nader if that makes you feel better. He used to be a Democrat until they tossed him out for challenging the corporatist and war state favored by the Democratic establishment. Anyway, now it the time to select a Democratic primary candidate with more integrity as this article suggests.

      • Randy Nichols

        That is why hillary is not releasing emails.. they show she used position as SOS to solicit money from foreign countries.

      • Randy Nichols

        Wow.. you manage to show how stupid you are while trying to be so smart.. that takes talent. An individual can not give that much money you moron to a candidate. That money was raised in $5400 ( the limit ) contributions from business owners that had supported Perry.

    • Creeayshun Sighuntist

      Aren’t you at all worried about Bob Mercer trying to buy our democracy?

      31 mil, and that is just the beginning. TWO years out. One man.

      • strayaway

        No, unlike you, i am trying to stay on topic. This article is about a selection in the Democratic Party primary being a good thing.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        OK, so please, tell me what you hope to see in the Democratic primary process that will help the next Dem candidate win in 2016. Since this is why you are here, I can’t wait to hear what you think.

      • strayaway

        I don’t expect to ever have a national Democratic candidate who supports the Tenth Amendment. That would be above my expectations. However, a candidate with integrity would be a nice touch and, I think, a sellable asset in any election.

      • Randy Nichols

        More concerned with George Soros using his money to influence our elections… how do you think you became so misinformed… it was from George Soros funded organizations.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        obsess about me much? I bet you just couldn’t wait to get off work at auto zone to get back to your computer to start flinging crap again. Your devotion to me, while flattering is a little creepy.

        Really, go see your family. They miss you

      • Randy Nichols

        At least I work you turd. I didn’t come her from some crap hole wanting to sit on my lazy butt all day and play on the internet like you do and expect the world to pay for it.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        sorry little fella, but my 20+ years active duty Army begs to differ with your assessment. Do you consider all active duty military to be lazy? Or did you assume incorrectly, yet again. You just can’t get anything right

      • Randy Nichols

        Military takes all kinds… but I don’t believe you were in military, you might have played make believe in front of your dirt hut. Or in your country maybe where the military wears dirty tee shirts and drives toyota’s you might have got to ride in the back. But that is not like really being in the army.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        sure bud. Unfortunately, you just don’t have a clue about anything other than how to be a total douche. That is obviously your calling in life. Too bad the free market doesn’t really need any more douches because you would be rushed right to the top.

        Sorry to ruin your fantasy of me, but it’s time to deal with it. Shocker, there are liberals in the US Army. And luck ( or unlucky) for you, I am very good at what I do.

      • Randy Nichols

        LOL..whatever. You sit on your ass all day lost in your fantasy world. You even dream about having a government job so that you can live off tax payers. Pretending to be in the Army is about as low as you can get. A pansy like you couldn’t hack it for one day. Shame on you for trying to steal valor.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        i get it man, your head just exploded. You’ve assumed incorrectly once again and there is zero need for me to pretend. Things aren’t always what you initially believe in your bubble, kind of like your economic philosophies. Time to deal with it.

        Couldn’t hack it for one day….lol…you are obviously projecting

      • Randy Nichols

        No, my head didn’t explode, I know you are not Army. Your fantasy world is your problem not mine. You are some kid who went to community college for a couple years and had a wanna be adjunct professor that teaches high school english during the day reliving their 60’s dreams of being a radical. They got you having wet dreams about some Utopian socialist world where everyone gets all they want and doesn’t have to work for it. A world where those that are innovative and willing to work can get ahead and accomplish big things only makes you jealous.. because you know you are too lazy, or too stupid or both to ever accomplish anything yourself. Or do you harbor a fantasy of being one of the elites that administers this socialist fantasy, you know the ones that controls everyone else’s life. You can’t hack it in free market world, you will not hack it in socialist world, you are just a loser simple as that.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        what color is the sun on your planet? Ours is yellow.

        Again, there is no reasoning with a bagger douche. Regardless of what the facts are, your ridiculous theories about people trump the reality on the ground. BTW, if you weren’t such a fat ass softy you might have had a chance to get in, IF you could pass the psych eval…..that is not likely though.

        Seriously, spend some time with your family and get over your crush on me.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        Really, you should lay off of Glen Beck’s short and curlies for a while. Your bagger propaganda has rotted your brain

      • strayaway

        What’s wrong with having a job at Auto Zone? Democrats used to champion workers. Why did they become contemptuous of US workers, start buying foreign cars, and replacing US workers with “immigrants’? Hillary even promoted fast tracking the TPP.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        absolutely nothing. I did all manners of jobs early on in life and have worked every day since I was able to legally work at age 14, and years before that under the table either washing cars at a local car lot, picking range balls at the golf course, mowing lawns, etc. You teabaggers think you are the only ones who know what work ethic means, and you are wrong. Raandal there thinks he is the smartest and most hard working person in the world and there is certainly not a liberal who can compete with his work ethic or immense brain power, and he is wrong again. I could care less if he actually does work at autozone (I was just tossing some random thing out), but that certainly doesn’t give him any “expert power” over any other person on this planet or any reason to critiique anyone else.

        And BTW, you should probably be replying to him since he thinks it’s funny to be dismissive of my more than 20 years of active duty service. I thought republicans used to care about the members of the armed forces. Apparently times have changed. But that is what baggers do, they flail around trying to score political points regardless of their hypicrisy.

      • strayaway

        I didn’t even question where you worked ore reference Randall so you are responding to things I never brought up. I, instead highlighted you expressed disdain for working people. If you put in 20 years in the military like you claim, also something I didn’t comment on, thank you for your service. Sometime, perhaps you can share your experiences.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        I’m highlighting how ridiculous your assertion is, that Democrats have contempt for US workers. But sweeping generalizations is all you do as a bagger….

        and btw, “as you claim”? Again, you must also have contempt for service members. Go figure.

      • strayaway

        That’s my opinion for reasons including those already given. I think that Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren are probably more sincere about their pro US worker rhetoric than Hillary is though. (How was that for getting back on topic?)

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        I think all three are more pro-worker than anything the GOP has had to offer in 50 years, and continue to offer up this next cycle.

      • strayaway

        Supporting wars, the TPP, the Federal Reserve, the Wall Street bailout, and the legal and illegal immigration of cheap labor pretty much puts Hillary near the bottom of anything the GOP had to offer in the last 50 years.

    • Patricia P. Tursi

      great post

  • Creeayshun Sighuntist

    Frank DiChute mental gymnast

    2004: John Kerry Looks French and didn’t really serve in the Army
    2012: Mitt Romeny is so dreamy because he is fluent in French and lived in France during Vietnam and has a car garage.

    2008: John McCain is a seasoned man and has a woman running mate. Yeah!
    2015: Hillary is just old and besides, she is a woman and don’t you know she has money to spend on a campaign.

    Frank’s hipocrisy knows no bounds, just like every other bagger.

    • Randy Nichols

      Why do you use a gay activity tea bagging as a pejorative term? Are you a homophobe or something?

  • Macdoodle

    So she was asked back in 2012 about using private emails for company business in a letter from Darrell Issa and she ignored the issue completely .My my what a tangled web we weave.

    • Creeayshun Sighuntist

      well, hopefully we can eventually figure out who did the laundry and picked up groceries…..

      Clinton Derangement Syndrome is alive and well

  • Macdoodle

    Those emails will come back to haunt her if she makes it to the debates.A roasting is in order.

    • Creeayshun Sighuntist

      dream on. I hope the GOP continues the idiotic obsession with that. More petty and pointless investigations that waste tax payer dollars are really going haunt her….

      • Flat Banana

        Think about in the way of your SO using a email account you don’t know about or a phone to make all side conversations, wouldn’t you become suspicious about the reasoning behind it or what they may have to hide…

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        what exactly are you so paranoid about that she is hiding from tax payers that no other SoS ever had to be concerned with before? Are you concerened what Condi rice and Colin Powell were talking about? Because we have no idea about them….What were they hiding? Aren’t you in the least bit suspicious? And what are you prepared to do to get that info?

        Please tell me you care about them too and aren’t just regurgitating right wing talking points…

      • Flat Banana

        It is the fact that they were deleted like she was frightened at the idea of someone finding out, which ties into my comment above. If someone is cheating per se they cover their tracks.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        lay off the right wing rag sites for a while please…. you have lost touch with reality

      • Flat Banana

        That seems to be your go to defense.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        it couldn’t be more apparent.

      • Flat Banana

        Lets look back to the scandals she had while in office and the information that was withheld….

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        oh yes, let’s do that….all of the “scandals”

        What are those scandals again?

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        finding out what? What is world nut daily pumping into that head of yours today?

      • Jen

        Or, perhaps, maybe they were PRIVATE emails with PRIVATE information.

      • Flat Banana

        That is not for her to make that determination single handedly. As an example, just because you have private talks with someone outside of your relationship doesn’t mean you have the right to hide that from them.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        Really….every conversation and correspondence she had with anyone, during the time she was Secretary of State, is now subject to right wing trash political theater? Really….that is your contention here…. Well I guess we need to get Condi, Colin, Dumbya Bush, and Cheney’s microchip data recorders which were implanted in them (sarc) if everything they did is public record, because inquiring minds want to know what that whole colossal F-up of a presidency was all about. I would certainly like to know what Cheney’s energy task force was all about since that all happened behind closed doors and nobody has any idea of what went on, and who was in there other than Ken Lay. Remember how the Supreme court had to force Cheney to turn over those records? Cheney was under the impression that he could operate as an elected dictator all in the name of executive privilege. But that was long ago and you wouldn’t care anything about that.

      • Jen

        I am now happily divorced after 25 years of marriage. I do not claim to know about every conversation my ex had with every person he came into contact with, nor he mine. How is that “hiding” anything? That is just creepy – if you don’t trust your spouse or significant other to have conversations with other people, there is something wrong with YOU.

        As this relates to Hillary’s emails, she probably thought that deleting the minutia of her personal life was “no big deal.” Although I think the Democrats could do better finding a candidate who isn’t mired in the “cronyism” that is Washington DC, right now, Hillary is the only declared candidate. I would love to see the Democrats field more candidates.

      • Flat Banana

        It was an analogy. The fact people think it was all personal emails is ridiculous, people are fast to delete something or act like something never happened when there is something to hide.

      • Frank DiChutney

        Shows how little you know about public email, Jen. Hillary’s philosophy is the less you do actually know, the better.

      • Jen

        Perhaps I am naive, but I also suspect that during the time of her daughter’s wedding planning, Hillary had a lot of emails regarding that particular event, that she deleted because they were no longer needed, and would have been unnecessary for anyone at the Federal Government to know anything about.

      • Randy Nichols

        Well, she did use her position to solicit money from foreign countries, that is why she is not releasing them.. so yeah, it will be a big topic with the american people.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        you and world nut daily sure do love conspiracy theories….

      • Randy Nichols

        That is a fact, you idiot. If she was innocent she would release the emails your moron.

  • Creeayshun Sighuntist

    Since there appears to be more than one right wing troll pretending that they are here only for polite debate and to help determine the best course of action for Democrats to take the presidency again in 2016, I’d like to hear your positive outlook and suggestions. And since this article is about Hillary, which seems to draw only vitriol out of Republicans, feel free to offer how an alternative Democratic candidate can win in 2016 against the excessive spending of right wing donors who do not care who their candidate is, as long as she/he promises to cut taxes for the top 1%, pump more money into defense spending, and prays a lot.

    What can Hillary or an alternative candidate do to win in 2016? Come on republicans, help us out and prove me wrong that you aren’t here just to name call and sling mud. (I’m pretty sure I know how this will turn out though)

    • Randy Nichols

      Here you go. I think Bernie Sanders should run. He is a socialist, and is not ashamed to admit it. Then once and for all the american people can honestly choose if they want socialism or not, instead of it being shoved down our throats incrementally.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        there’s the llittle squeaker…..

        Socialism or your alternative which is fascism, theocracy, with along with failed theories of free market fairies.

        See, when talking to baggers there is no room for middle ground and no need for debate. Randal isn’t here for debate, he is here to prove how much of a prick one person can be.

      • Randy Nichols

        Sorry this country was created as free market capitalist country.. if you don’t like it, crawl back in the hole you came out of. Just because you are from some dirt hole means this country should become one. In less than 200 hundred years this nation built on freedom and the free market became the most powerful country in the world and militarily saved the world twice, and have given money to all you ungrateful pieces of shit ever since.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        show me where, in your strict constructionist view of the constitution, where it says this country was created to be a “capitalist country”. Cite specifics, or go crawl back under your rock